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[C.Olimar788]

This is some misguided parallelism you're making here. A movie has a completely different type of fruition compared to a game where pace isn't as paramount of a factor where everything has to wrap up neatly in around two hours.
There's no heavy obligation to having internal coherence in a world where games have those nice things called menus that let you select what mode you want to play, all the while not subtracting from any main or story mode. Hence, removing such game modes basically boils down to self censorship.

Arguments about pace are fair, and I blame the cross-media example on the fact that my head is Star Wars All the Time right now. In any case...

Options included in a game can absolutely take away from the game overall. For a good example off the top of my head, look at Spec Ops: The Line. It includes a multiplayer mode, and that multiplayer mode inherently runs against the theme and tone of the rest of the game. Most people would agree (including the devs, last I checked!) that cutting that mode would benefit the overall experience.

For a more hyperbolic example, let's say you buy a Kirby game and there is an optional mode in some menu or another where the game presents to you a large-breasted human version of Kirby and you can make her pose as her boobs jiggle gratuitously. Would the inclusion or exclusion of this mode truly not impact the overall game?

 

[Azuran]

Holy shit what does lolis even have to do with this discussion?

You're on NeoGAF.

 

[sensui-tomo]

It seems unnecesary to cut it out if it was optional, anyway, there is a fantranslation of the japanese version right ?

There is a fan translation but there is no text during the skinship scenes.

 

[Cizeta-Moroder]

What kind of dialogue was lost?

An assortment of interjections such as "Onii-chan!!!", I assume.

 

[Warxard]

The saddest part is that Supposedly FE fans were not gonna buy this game because of petting, too animu, or w/e bs reason one can come up with. Some FE fan there. Disgusting.

Fire Emblem was never about this creepy pandering garbage. Until like Awakening, which was probably the game responsible for the IP's resurgence. That game was also, like, pretty creepy

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

I don't think anyone is taking exception with the game's kooky personality.

Yet people are supporting censoring goofy content that has like nothing steamy going on in it. Heaven forbid the game gets a little weird here or there.

 

[DrWong]

Correct me if I'm wrong GAF but this mode is just about face touching as shown in a video in this thread ? Nothing more ?

 

[oti]

While we're at it why not make every female have the same chest size too? Also make sure to cut out any fanservice scenes.

Please do that.

 

[Kurita]

Does that also affect the European version?
Kinda shitty to remove a fun feature of the game, I would have loved to pat my handsome dudes and dudettes.

Kinda amazed to see people happy with this type of backwards decision taken...

 

[REMAINSILLY]

Holy shit what does lolis even have to do with this discussion?

Yeah, dude, no. Most of those girls are of age, yeah. None of them are underage, no way. No, it's fine, yeah.

 

[Draxal]

...I'm not debating this (I think FE3 Tiki has a bad outfit myself), but am... I... supposed to wear pants with longer dresses? No one told me this .-.

Big thing I have is against pegasus knights.

You want to have long leggings because chapped legs is horrific.

And I always thought the hint of a pantsu shot with them was intrinsic in their design.

 

[Lusankya]

Damn, the character models looked really good. I will miss that.

 

[Kyzon]

Everyone knows that touching faces is the lewdest thing you can do.

At least wear protection!

*hands Kyzon oven mitts*

Do oven mitts come in a "thin" version?

I'll take Dexter's mom's gloves instead if not.

 

[Mr-Joker]

Yes you can still marry your four sisters or have that incest route with your male character.

Sweeeeet, that's the only thing I cared about...don't judge me I like my story to be dark and twisted. <(^_^>

 

[DNAbro]

Arguments about pace are fair, and I blame the cross-media example on the fact that my head is Star Wars All the Time right now. In any case...

Options included in a game can absolutely take away from the game overall. For a good example off the top of my head, look at Spec Ops: The Line. It includes a multiplayer mode, and that multiplayer mode inherently runs against the theme and tone of the rest of the game. Most people would agree (including the devs, last I checked!) that cutting that mode would benefit the overall experience.

For a more hyperbolic example, let's say you buy a Kirby game and there is an optional mode in some menu or another where the game presents to you a loli, large-breasted human version of Kirby and you can make her pose as her boobs jiggle gratuitously. Would the inclusion or exclusion of this mode truly not impact the overall game?

Agreed, the idea that adding something even optional can't take away from the product as a whole seems naive. Dev time wasted on unwanted features is also a problem.

 

[Haunted]

Who out there actually enjoys eating fecal matter? Like I want to know.

No, you really don't, trust me.

I'm German, I've seen the pertinent videos.

Spoiler

this is a joke about germany's weird porn industry

brazil and japan have us beat anyway

 

[L95]

There is a fan translation but there is no text during the skinship scenes.

There is text, actually, there are 'captions' for the spoken dialogue on the top screen.

 

[Crash Station]

What kind of dialogue was lost?

Important backstory which give us insight on character motivations.

 

[Instro]

What kind of dialogue was lost?

Uguuuu

 

[captainpat]

Fire Emblem was never about this creepy pandering garbage. Until like Awakening, which was probably the game responsible for the IP's resurgence. That game was also, like, pretty creepy

Neither is this game. That's why it's an optional mode.

 

[Siege.exe]

This is a Fire Emblem thread, is it not? Do people really find it necessary to shitpost about the Vita at any given opportunity? Hell, this isn't even a given opportunity.

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

So far with only Kotaku being the only source I find this being truthful dubious at best.

At least, I think it should be reflected in the title since it hasn't been confirmed by Nintendo themselves yet.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Now Im convinced nintendo needs 2 new brands for localization and publishing, 1 for weeabo games and 1 for Rated M games, that way they can avoid putting their name in this games.

 

[Nabae]

I think it does have an impact on the overall tone of the game. There's an intent on the side of the developers here to provide something to a certain part of the fanbase, and that absolutely affects how the game as a designed piece and as a whole is perceived, even if someone would not engage with that particular content.

With that kind of reach, you'd be good at basketball.

 

[ShinRPGamer]

Does that also affect the European version?
Kinda shitty to remove a fun feature of the game, I would have loved to pat my handsome dudes and dudettes.

Given that any alterations by Nintendo as of late haven't been NA only, I'm assuming the EU version won't have it as well.

 

[sensui-tomo]

There is, there are 'captions' for the spoken dialogue on the top screen.

Then the translation must be farther ahead from when i lasted checked. I should look at prices to import the game as i know now i can just import it. (already done with the hacked 3ds though)

 

[L95]

Damn, the character models looked really good. I will miss that.

You'll probably still get to see them, they're used for confessions.

 

[Mesoian]

 

[-Horizon-]

So far with only Kotaku being the only source I find this being truthful dubious at best.

At least, I think it should be reflected in the title since it hasn't been confirmed by Nintendo themselves yet.

Its best to assume the worst I would say. /serious

 

[WrenchNinja]

dresses that conveniently don't go any lower than the upper, upper thigh, you mean

convenient for whatever dirty thoughts you're having I suppose

 

[ohlawd]

Damn, the character models looked really good. I will miss that.

actually the reason I'm sad it's gone

they can just remove the petting but keep everything as a model viewer or something

 

[WickedLaharl]

There are Taco Bell fans on this forum

TAKE IT BACK

Say you're sorry and maybe someday you'll be forgiven

 

[Green Mamba]

NoA does seem to be removing and changing more things in localization as of late but it seems to be a direct response to their Japanese studios making more and more questionable garbage.

 

[kuroneko0509]

Important backstory which give us insight on character motivations.

>important backstory
ehh i can't remember which characters said those kind of stuff actually

 

[Chaos17]

Yes you can still marry your four sisters or have that incest route with your male character.

That is not true and you know it.

Spoiler

Since you're not blood related that is not incest!

 

[Instro]

No, you really don't, trust me.

I'm German, I've seen the pertinent videos.

Spoiler

this is a joke about germany's weird porn industry

brazil and japan have us beat anyway

That's debatable.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

I think it does have an impact on the overall tone of the game. There's an intent on the side of the developers here to provide something to a certain part of the fanbase, and that absolutely affects how the game as a designed piece and as a whole is perceived, even if someone would not engage with that particular content.

It only goes as far as the game takes it, which come on is totally innocuous in this case. Anything beyond that is left up to the individual player and their imagination.

 

[Akibared]

Yes you can still marry your four sisters or have that incest route with your male character.

 

[Warxard]

Neither is this game. That's why it's an optional mode.

Why does it exist in the first place? For what reason does the mode exist to benefit the player through the game that couldn't be done from some other shitty minigame? Who is the mode being presented to as a plus to play it?

I get the 'oh it's optional' arguement, but I'm not getting as to why I'm petting my fucking sister in a strategy RPG

 

[Jawmuncher]

It's not a huge loss to me, but I am getting quite annoyed of these changes nintendo keep's doing for their western audiences. Still buying it and won't be boycotting nintendo or anything, but wish they would just leave things as is. I really doubt there would be huge backlash over this or the changed dialog. I feel like nintendo is afraid to show up on the western 10 o'clock news or something. The people who want this game aren't really going to care about this stuff. If they do I doubt it's a big enough base that it's going to fully impact sales.

Regardless it's their game, they can do whatever they want with it. Would just be nice if all the regions could agree on what can and can't be in a game before hand. To me the only kind of stuff that should be cut from games is stuff due to licensing. Much like was the case of Tatsunoko vs Capcom. I would rather we lose a character over no game at all.

 

[Hackworth]

Yes you can still marry your four sisters or have that incest route with your male character.

wait wat

 

[Draxal]

>important backstory
ehh i can't remember which characters said those kind of stuff actually

LEO LOOKS LIKE A GIRL.

 

[Ohmygoditsjrod]

This is a Fire Emblem thread, is it not? Do people really find it necessary to shitpost about the Vita at any given opportunity? Hell, this isn't even a given opportunity.

That happens in off topic that has nothing to do with the vita.

Thisisneogaf.gif

 

[akira28]

I say leave it in, as long as it wasn't sexual. Like I was imaginging you would pet them and then their clothes would disappear, and you would keep on petting them.

if its just like little kisses, I say, why not. The idea of someone having to plant smooches on that big giant rock knight looking guy with a stylus, amuses me greatly.

 

[sensui-tomo]

That is not true and you know it.

Spoiler

Since you're not blood related that is not incest!

SPOILERS for route 3

Spoiler

I'm not talking about the 6 siblings, I'm talking about the revelation about one character in route 3

Last chance SPOILER

Spoiler

Aqua is related to you so that is actually incest. Cousins but incest regardless

 

[Snkfanatic]

This is a Fire Emblem thread, is it not? Do people really find it necessary to shitpost about the Vita at any given opportunity? Hell, this isn't even a given opportunity.

Considering even Mods make the Vita jokes now....I guess it's fair game.

 

[Hubb]

Damn dude

That post was absolutely savage, haha

Savage in the sense that it was a terrible analogy? I agree.

 

[Coffee Dog]

Arguments about pace are fair, and I blame the cross-media example on the fact that my head is Star Wars All the Time right now. In any case...

Options included in a game can absolutely take away from the game overall. For a good example off the top of my head, look at Spec Ops: The Line. It includes a multiplayer mode, and that multiplayer mode inherently runs against the theme and tone of the rest of the game. Most people would agree (including the devs, last I checked!) that cutting that mode would benefit the overall experience.

For a more hyperbolic example, let's say you buy a Kirby game and there is an optional mode in some menu or another where the game presents to you a large-breasted human version of Kirby and you can make her pose as her boobs jiggle gratuitously. Would the inclusion or exclusion of this mode truly not impact the overall game?

This isn't a kirby game. This is a game where you are able to marry 1000 year old dragons, which have been featured in the series since the first games.

I'd argue goofy facepetting doesn't run counter to the rest of the game like you're suggesting in this example. The main characters and plot are all high level animu garbage, and that's how the series has been for a long time, with the notable exceptions of the more grounded (and better IMO) SNES games. I'd be on board if the removal of this feature allowed the game to return to that grounded tone of those, but it doesn't. As it stands I now have a game filled with animu garbage that has less in it than a japanese copy of that same game.

 

[Crash Station]

I think it does have an impact on the overall tone of the game. There's an intent on the side of the developers here to provide something to a certain part of the fanbase, and that absolutely affects how the game as a designed piece and as a whole is perceived, even if someone would not engage with that particular content.

Here's what it does to the tone of the game; makes it slightly sillier. It effects the tone as much as the matchmaking thing in Awakening did.

This isn't Monster Monpiece, it's a gimped Pokemon-Amie.

 

[Tacorona72]

This isn't going to stop me from getting the game, but why cut it? If it's optional then the player can decide whether or not they want to do it or ignore it. It was never mandatory, or was it?