Serkan Toto Rumor: Bandai Namco making several NX games, including a Smash for launch
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Hibiki Kurosawa
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Yep, this is exactly what this news is saying.
Next gen baby. Although ports don't mean that there won't be new games. It'll probably seem less port-heavy the further it gets from launch.
DrROBschiz
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Did you expect third party exclusives at launch? Nintendo has much work to do before that happens, if ever.
I mean you don't need to buy the new version (not until we see 1. It's real and 2. If it has new stuff or is just the complete edition). And of course there'll be other games on NX. We just don't know what they are yet.
You don't need to get a new console the moment it comes out haha
Nintendo NX: Wii U Boogaloo
Not surprising at all, but at launch is sooner than I would have guessed. Most had already predicted it in threads before. The only non-believers were being silly. They put way too much effort in Smash to just "start over". Even if they used the same engine to build a new game I see little point.. the game is superb as it is. Tweaks to mechanics and new characters/stages are enough
LightOfTruth
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As far as I'm concerned that'd be even better!
I would personally be fine with no BC if they remaster some of their first party stuff for WiiU.
GiantBreadbug
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FUCK YES GIVE ME A SMASH NX PORT
MY ICE CLIMBERS MAY YET LIIIIIIVE
MY ICE CLIMBERS MAY YET LIIIIIIVE
Coffee Dog
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Yeah, I mean, I get it. They are a business interested in making money. Not very many people bought Wii Us, and offering a Smash port is an easy way to make a lot of money. It's just that if it has exclusive content, it fucks over people who bought the game at launch in a way that Nintendo hasn't really done before on a game level. Hardware revisions have always happened, game revisions so close to the original release are so far unprecedented.
If it's a straight port it's whatever, but if there's exclusive stuff, when you're asking me to still spend a premium on additional content as recently as February 2016 on a version that they know will be irrelevant, it's fairly shitty.
GasProblem
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Wii U ports in the beginning of the life of the NX makes sense. Doesn't really say anything about BC.
I own a Wii U but don't have Smash. I'd buy this.
NX not having BC would make my Wii U feel a little bit more special. Like a Nintendo Dreamcast. And just like my Dreamcast, I don't have a lot of games for it, but the games I do have I enjoyed alot.
I own a Wii U but don't have Smash. I'd buy this.
NX not having BC would make my Wii U feel a little bit more special. Like a Nintendo Dreamcast. And just like my Dreamcast, I don't have a lot of games for it, but the games I do have I enjoyed alot.
If NX launches with like 80% ports, while that's great for people who never owned a wii u, that's really bad press, no? I can already see the headlines.
I'm ok with 'best of wii u' games getting ported little by little over 2-3 years with most of them getting straight up sequel games instead (splatoon and mario kart should get sequels, not ports).
NX needs at LEAST 50% new games from nintendo.
I'm ok with 'best of wii u' games getting ported little by little over 2-3 years with most of them getting straight up sequel games instead (splatoon and mario kart should get sequels, not ports).
NX needs at LEAST 50% new games from nintendo.
Vanillalite
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Maybe they expected new 1st party games vs Wii U games that are already out?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Exactly. If they want people to buy NX then they need to add new contents.
superNESjoe
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Porting a couple (only one as of now, hypothetically), and suddenly this platform we know nothing about is full of ports.
Legit, this is smart. Wii U games are still new games to millions of people because the platform was so ignored. Why make the mistake of holding Smash and Mario Kart until year 2 of NX when they have a great version of both already ready that not many people even played.
Strong launch helps strong early adoption. Strong adoption and a good lineup will give the platform the legs it needs to be a success. NOT porting critically acclaimed Wii U games would be downright stupid.
Vital Tundra
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Exactly. I even own a Wii U and want some of these games ported over.
DrROBschiz
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I expect a balanced spread and a rollout out
Why not take a page from Sony and have regular release schedule that can range from remaster, New IP, Sequel, digital games?
Does it work on percentages, though? A port being announced does not mean that less new games have been announced.
I think that if there are enough new games that look interesting, everyone that doesn't care about the ports will just ignore them and focus on the new stuff.
That seems somewhat foolish to expect out of a leak centered around a third party.
entremet
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We have zero corroboration so far from official sources.
CopperPuppy
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Probably ports of SSB4 and Pokkén, plus whatever else. SSB4 NX makes me hopeful for MK8 NX also.
How many people actually bought the Wii HD? Check the numbers. Not many. Therefore they can provide "new" games for the NX crowd that refused to buy the worst Nintendo console ever made. That is a great strategy HOWEVER you also need new games to attract a new demographic and/or regain the fans you have been losing over time.
How well did Last Of Us do on PS4? I assume pretty well, since a lot of customers were ex-360 customers. Obviously, you'd need NX to do 10x better than Wii U, but still, I think last of us did well, no? And that was roughly 13 months.
I think people are being way too hopeful that NX is going to make Wii U sales seem microscopic. I think the safe assumption, for NOW, is that the initial NX crowd *IS* the wii U crowd, the hardcore nintendo fanbase. Ports *HAVE* to be a BONUS for consumers who never owned a Wii U, not the selling point of your system. Last of us is the best example I can think of. I really doubt anyone bought a PS4 *just* for last of us. I think a ton of people picked it up because they were already getting a PS4 and it was a nice to have or they never played it before.
Technically, the percentage doesn't actually matter as long as there's a perception that there's enough NEW NEW stuff, but if you look at launch window games and only 2-3 games are new, with only one of them being a real landmark title (like a new mario), then the ports overshadow the new and the system gets bad press.
Jonneh3003
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The only port I can see it getting is Super Smash Bros. It's normal in the current market to resell older games on new hardware but it's not a practise I think Nintendo will partake in, in fact most of these remasters are from western developers, I can't think of many Japanese games to make the jump bar REmake and 0 if they even fit the bill.
Square have done a few I suppose.
I'm certain Mario Kart 8 will never be ported. It doesn't make sense for the series when you consider how many copies they sell on each platform. Mario Kart sells throughout an entire console lifespan and doesn't need more than one installment per system.
Honeslty the ports arent meant for current wiiu owners or people who have the games now.
They are meant strictly for all of those people who said, oh one or two of those games on WiiU look neat but I am not buying a dead system for that. Or people who own a 3ds but never bothered to plunk down for a Wiiu etc.
Any porting or remastered game from WiiU to NX is to strictly gice those ignored WiiU more reason to go to NX.
Hopefully there new account system is in place to give loyal folks who supported the WiiU some kind of upgrade discount if they want to do so.
Vital Tundra
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I don't see why ports would even change how many new games come. I expect 2 or 3 Wii U games to come to NX on launch, including Zelda. The rest will be what it is, ports existing or not.
DrROBschiz
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That sure would be swell of Nintendo to do so
That's right. I mentioned that it my above post.
InaSnowBoundLand
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I'm guessing they will add new characters (besides the DLC for Smash Bros Wii U /3DS). I doubt they would just release a port that includes the revealed DLC. I think they know that would not be attractive, even for the dedicated fans. Even just a few new characters might get people to jump in again.
Here's hoping for King K. Rool and Dixie Kong.
Here's hoping for King K. Rool and Dixie Kong.
Sammy Samusu
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Please be true.
Please be true.
Please be true.
Coffee Dog
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But that takes a steaming shit on everyone who bought the original version of the game less than two years ago, and who have paid a premium price tag for DLC support since. If I would have known that if i just waited less than two years I wouldn't have to spend all the money that I already have on DLC + more content, I wouldn't have bought the game in the first place and just waited.
I realize that by not lining up for NX on day 1, I'm not one of the Nintendo whales that they're counting on, and I'm in the minority. I'm just a guy who likes good games, and if I get told that the version of the game that I bought is worse game with less in it just because I bought a Wii U, it's sort of frustrating.
I can only hope some sort of steep discount is in place for people that bought the original, because I can't justify buying a whole new game and system for the small amount of exclusive content they've added when I already spent so much on the obsolete one.
Yup, just like every other console at launch within it's first 6 months.
...Okay, but that is not a common way of thinking. With that mindset, you'd be better off blaming other gamers for not buying WiiU's and not contributing to the actual product being a bigger success.
You can ALWAYS wait longer and get the game a reduced price. If you don't want to be an early adopter, don't be an early adopter. No one has a gun to your head.
Me getting it Day One and selling my Wii U.
DrROBschiz
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It would certainly be attractive to those who never played Smash 4 or bought a WiiU
I dont expect them to take the lazy route regardless. There will be a hook for dedicated fans for sure
Already Torn
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But will NX support the GameCube controller?
Coffee Dog
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Because those are system selling games, if the NX is a more attractive console than the Wii U they can help move units regardless of being ports. Look at TLOU on PS4.
...Because they did? Splatoon is selling very well in Japan.
DrROBschiz
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Its not going to take a big push to get people on the NX train im thinking
Drilbit777
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Aside from Smash and Zelda. What other Wii U games could up for NX ports?
Jonneh3003
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The reputation and reception of those games is well known among the community, it's just few people have actually played them. The Wii U's problem isn't it's lack of games, its that people are unwilling to actually buy the console. I don't think anything other than Smash will come to NX, it's not a Nintendo thing to do and it doesn't make sense for a company who constantly look ahead when developing new installments. Splatoon likely won't come to NX, Splatoon 2 almost certainly will.
DrROBschiz
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Mario maker sticks out large in my Mind
Though it and Splatoon might just get sequels
Already Torn
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Well, it's important to note that the Wii U is a piece of shit. Seriously. No matter how attractive its lineup is, the things that are distinctive about the system just aren't interesting to most consumers, and the things that aren't distinctive are inferior to the competition. The games might be better off if (when?) they don't have that albatross around their necks.