Microsoft Releasing Exclusive Games on PC Is Great for Xbox Owners

They are on the right track by releasing all their games on both platforms, but god damn, they need o have cross buy for it to be really meaningful, otherwise it's just two different platforms getting the same games.
 
Ushay said:
I enjoy sitting in front of my TV
I get 2/4 free games per month via Gold
I don't really want to drop £600+ for a competent gaming PC

Those are just a few. That being said LIVE functionality is on the PC too, the biggest thing it loses is the subscription.
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Right. And this is why I don't really see the PC/Xbox markets as having a whole lot of overlap. Microsoft would be leaving money on the table to ignore PC in a misguided attempt to sell more Xboxes.

Hell, the only reason I game on PS4 is because my gaming PC is now 6 years old and needs a complete gut and overhaul job to be relevant. PS4 exclusives, at least to my tastes, are mostly hot garbage compared to the multiplatform games, so I don't find that a compelling reason to choose console over PC, or even in addition to.
 
MS makes a great pro consumer move and it's all doom and gloom for Xbox apparently.

There will be another Xbox this gen. The PS4's massive success is dulling everyone's critical thinking skills... just because PS4 is kicking but does not mean XB1 isn't selling "decently".
 
Bgamer90 said:
How when multiplatform games (many of which are on PC) are the top selling games on both the PS4 and Xbox One?

Exclusives really aren't doing much this gen. This past Holiday season showed that pretty clearly.



No positive for a console only gamer?

What about the fact that this push will help new IPs (that are good) to have a greater chance at success and thus become franchises with multiple sequels?

I loved Sunset Overdrive. If a PC version of the game would have caused a Sunset Overdrive 2 then how is that a bad thing? Most who care about consoles only will continue on caring about consoles only.

This move is setting the base for MS to merge Xbox and PC/Windows 10. This will cause the Xbox brand as a whole to better compete with the larg(er) worldwide userbase of PlayStation.
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Sounds like you are basing your argument on "what if"
 
Montresor said:
MS makes a great pro consumer move and it's all doom and gloom for Xbox apparently.

There will be abother Xbox this gen. The PS4's massive success is dulling everyone's critical thinking skills... just because PS4 is kicking but does not mean XB1 isn't selling "decently".
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Right? It's awesome!
 
GeordieMark said:
Counting posts on GAF to prove or disprove anything is a waste of time. Its irrelevant.
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I was pointing to the narrative created by this proposed practice. I'm not trying to prove anything.

The context of my posts is a bit lost since a few posts back. I'm merely arguing the benefits for the Xbox as games console in the console space, and making the point that fans have the right to be upset and disheartened by a move like this.
 
Disaster Nebraska said:
Yes, when I think of a console base being treated First Class, the first item that comes to mind is "I hope their exclusive games get ported to PC to hedge against poor sales".
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It is still a console exclusive and you will get to enjoy it all the same. Who cares if it is on PC as well? Only misguided fanboys who want to feel special do.
 
low-G said:
I'd say this hurts people who exclusively own the X1. Less people will buy an X1, so it'll get less software support, period. It's not as if software sold on other platforms justifies developing for a platform your sales were not on. It's not a plus for these people and you'd be delusional to say so.

Otherwise it helps the devs, probably, depending on MS's personal support. Also helps PC gamers, and potentially everyone by not locking to a single system of DRM.
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This makes no sense since they are pushing win store and xbox as a single platform. They are not there yet, but their goal is a single store, with a single submission process and unified tools that allows to develop to both at once.

If anything this will increase xbone support beyond its sales would.
 
Montresor said:
MS makes a great pro consumer move and it's all doom and gloom for Xbox apparently.

There will be another Xbox this gen. The PS4's massive success is dulling everyone's critical thinking skills... just because PS4 is kicking but does not mean XB1 isn't selling "decently".
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Yup. I have no idea why people are taking this as bad news....
 
backflip10019 said:
If more people are exposed to MS's solid upcoming library of games, then that's a great thing in my book.
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Precisely. And the games are still console exclusives just as they were. Being 'Microsoft' exclusive will help the games, and in turn, will help give us even more. It just makes sense. Only moronic fanboys of either side will make some big deal out of this for their console war bullshit.
 
SimonM7 said:
I'm not contesting that the games themselves would sell better if put on a platform that people are less antagonistic towards, nor that Microsoft themselves would do better business. I am, however, saying that for the Xbox as a hardware platform, and for its fans and the narrative that surrounds it, having it perpetually be the *worst* place for Xbox fans to play *the games they are fans of* is neither good for the image of the platform, nor something I expect those fans to just brush off and be cool with.

But you're echoing business decisions that make total sense. I don't think what you're saying is in any way unfeasible or wrong. It's the first move in phasing out Xbox as a flagship gaming platform though, and that's not a fun thing for fans at all. How very hollow all the commercials will sound when you're truly and utterly better off playing on PC than on the main competitor to the other consoles that the commercial is marketing.
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I don't think there being an option for people who have great rigs to play Xbox games at better resolutions/frame-rates will be that disappointing for those who buy that theorical Xbox Two I mentioned. Minecraft is a better experience on PC but that doesn't stop people from playing that game on Xbox. It's a good point for the hardcore especially since gold on PC vs console is very one-sided (and the reason I think Halo is still not on PC) but I don't see it as big of an issue for the entire audience personally.
 
ironcreed said:
It is still a console exclusive and you will get to enjoy it all the same. Who cares if it is on PC as well? Only misguided fanboys who want to feel special do.
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That's a rather broad statement, isn't it?

What if you're a platform-agnostic gamer who enjoys Microsoft's catalog and therefore buys the system? That's how Sony does it. That's how Nintendo does it. But for Xbox One owners who made the decision to buy the system (instead of -- perhaps -- a new or upgraded PC) now has a console that collects dust. EDIT: I shouldn't say "collects dust". They now have a console that has less utility and is less attractive, that's all.

Plenty of PC gamers "stoop" to the level of console gaming (and handheld gaming) simply for the exclusive games. They know the graphics are worse. They know the game won't have the flexibility of a PC game. Yet, they do it because they're gamers and there's no other platform to play the game.

It sucks for those who bought an Xbox One with the hopes that it would be given care and attention by Microsoft. With all these ports coming down the line, the reason to buy the system diminishes.

From a business standpoint, people who keep parroting "who cares if they buy in on W10? It's still a game sale" are forgetting the very lucrative Xbox Live subscriptions that are charged on console but not on PC.
 
SplitYourInfinities said:
Yeah, MS is giving up. Maybe this also means that they are leaving the console space.
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Crazy news today. I own an Xbox but it's mainly a console for my little one. Maybe it's time to build a gaming rig for the adult Xbox games.

I think it's a win win for everyone.
 
I think this is great. Microsoft is heading in the exact direction I expected after the failure of the old guard and, reveal if the xb1, and consumers complete revulsion for their vision of the Xb1.

Pc Gaming and Console gaming are two different markets. Doubt they intersect very much outside places like neogaf. I don't think Microsoft will ever not make Xbox branded hardware. There will always be a market for it as I think it is easier to get a mass marketed console in to the living room than a PC.

Whether they go down the Xbox branded pcs path or custom hardware is a different question. I think they will stick with custom hardware and software. They should create a living room mode for PCs for people that don't mind having pcs in their living room.

Why limit your software to 20 million potential customers if you can be targeting 200+ million? Makes no sense not to.

Now, they need to bring kb/m support and access to PC gaming catalogs and the circle is complete!!!
 
Disaster Nebraska said:
That's a rather broad statement, isn't it?

What if you're a platform-agnostic gamer who enjoys Microsoft's catalog and therefore buys the system? That's how Sony does it. That's how Nintendo does it. But for Xbox One owners who made the decision to buy the system (instead of -- perhaps -- a new or upgraded PC) now has a console that collects dust. EDIT: I shouldn't say "collects dust". They now have a console that has less utility and is less attractive, that's all.

Plenty of PC gamers "stoop" to the level of console gaming (and handheld gaming) simply for the exclusive games. They know the graphics are worse. They know the game won't have the flexibility of a PC game. Yet, they do it because they're gamers and there's no other platform to play the game.

It sucks for those who bought an Xbox One with the hopes that it would be given care and attention by Microsoft. With all these ports coming down the line, the reason to buy the system diminishes.

From a business standpoint, people who keep parroting "who cares if they buy in on W10? It's still a game sale" are forgetting the very lucrative Xbox Live subscriptions that are charged on console but not on PC.
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What makes PS+ different from XBL in this instance

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Console warriors going mad right now, yeaaaaahhhh I'm out
 
Lnkn52 said:
Crazy news today. I own an Xbox but it's mainly a console for my little one. Maybe it's time to build a gaming rig for the adult Xbox games.

I think it's a win win for everyone.
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This is my feeling also...console for family, same games play on pc which is for me :)
 
greenegt said:
No, but it seems to jive with their new emphasis on user engagement, rather than hardware sales, as a key metric. They just want you in the MS ecosystem, whether on Xbox, PC, mobile devices, etc.
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I totally agree. I thought I read somewhere that Windows OS sales were declining?? Can't really remember.

Our gaming desktop has been out of commission due to either motherboard issue or processor and we have been dragging our feet about upgrading it. For now, games are played on ps4 and wii u. We surf the web on our tablets and chromebook.


Will be interesting to see how all this plays out in the near future.
 
They really need to figure out a way to get PC to Xbox One streaming working. It'd be an amazing feature for me personally.
 
Disaster Nebraska said:
That's a rather broad statement, isn't it?

What if you're a platform-agnostic gamer who enjoys Microsoft's catalog and therefore buys the system? That's how Sony does it. That's how Nintendo does it. But for Xbox One owners who made the decision to buy the system (instead of -- perhaps -- a new or upgraded PC) now has a console that collects dust. EDIT: I shouldn't say "collects dust". They now have a console that has less utility and is less attractive, that's all.

Plenty of PC gamers "stoop" to the level of console gaming (and handheld gaming) simply for the exclusive games. They know the graphics are worse. They know the game won't have the flexibility of a PC game. Yet, they do it because they're gamers and there's no other platform to play the game.

It sucks for those who bought an Xbox One with the hopes that it would be given care and attention by Microsoft. With all these ports coming down the line, the reason to buy the system diminishes.

From a business standpoint, people who keep parroting "who cares if they buy in on W10? It's still a game sale" are forgetting the very lucrative Xbox Live subscriptions that are charged on console but not on PC.
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On the other side of that coin people like me prefer consoles and do not have a rig that can run these games. They are still console exclusive just as they were.

But if you have a decent rig that will run them, then more power to you, I guess. I just don't see it as a loss because the games that I bought my Xbox One for are still coming all the same and that is where I will play them. Nothing has changed.
 
Some users really forget that we are on a gaming forum, and not in the real world. The common consumer is not going to drop a console for a gaming PC.
 
Great for our household - all the games going to PC and no need to double up on an Xone.

I have no issues with this - plus i live in Japan so not like me buying an Xone was going to stop any big slide or anything.

Xone is the first console i've skipped in an age. Feels so weird.
 
I am actually for console exclusives showing up on PC. I would love to play heavy rain, demon souls, bloodborne and killzone at 1080p 60 fps with all the other PC effects on high.

I dont think it will effect sales much. Its an entirely different market and people ditching x1s or PS4s for PCs are most likely a very small segment of that population.
 
Boo Boo'n said:
What makes PS+ different from XBL in this instance

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Console warriors going mad right now, yeaaaaahhhh I'm out
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I'm not sure I understand the question.

Xbox One exclusives releasing on PC means a lost opportunity for making money on a Live subscription if that game was bought on Xbox One. Which -- in plenty of other such threads -- "user engagement" and XBL numbers seemed to be a super important number. Now it isn't?

Please explain to me what PS+ has to do with the conversation. You're building a strawman.
 
Vuze said:
Yup, one less title to bring up as an exclusive in list wars. That's all I can think about when somebody tries to depict how it's a bad thing.
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I see it as bad because I bought an Xbox because it had the most interesting exclusives for me. Now they're all on PC which I already had.
 
I've been saying this for a while but I think the next Xbox will be closer to what Steam box is than a traditional console. It will be a PC with a controller interface and cross buy/cross platform. More of a budget PC gaming system. Buy a game on the Windows store? Own it on your Xbox. Because everything would be linked.

I just don't see it being any other way.
 
DryvBy said:
I've been saying this for a while but I think the next Xbox will be closer to what Steam box is than a traditional console. It will be a PC with a controller interface and cross buy/cross platform. More of a budget PC gaming system. Buy a game on the Windows store? Own it on your Xbox. Because everything would be linked.

I just don't see it being any other way.
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That's what the Xbox One is. The only thing missing is cross-play.

I wonder if they'll ever make multiplayer free and just keep xbl as a subscription for free games and deals. that would be a good move if they're trying to unify the platforms.
 
InsaneTiger said:
Ok but while you can just play it right away, I need to buy some new components to get it run properly.
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do you? The Xone doesn't particularly strike me as a beast of a machine - i'd assume most peoples rigs from the last 2-3 years would cope just fine.
 
Juanfp said:
Some users really forget that we are on a gaming forum, and not in the real world. The common consumer is not going to drop a console for a gaming PC.
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Exactly. This move allows MS to engage more gamers. Don't have/want an XB1? Buy our games on your Win10 PC.
 
Juanfp said:
Some users really forget that we are on a gaming forum, and not in the real world. The common consumer is not going to drop a console for a gaming PC.
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Indeed. Most of the people who bought an Xbox One did so because they prefer consoles. These are still going to be 'Xbox' games for them. Microsoft knows this full well.
 
ironcreed said:
On the other side of that coin people like me prefer consoles and do not have a rig that can run these games. They are still console exclusive just as they were.

But if you have a decent rig that will run them, then more power to you, I guess. I just don't see it as a loss because the games that I bought my Xbox One for are still coming all the same and that is where I will play them. Nothing has changed.
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That is a great attitude to have and I agree. I also buy games on PS4 and on Vita for reasons of convenience or preference even though I have a perfectly good PC hooked to my TV with controller and wireles m/kb. So, I agree with being satisfied with the console you own.

What I was addressing is some in the thread said "who cares if they buy the game on W10? It's still a sale. This means nothing". Well, that's not true at all. You have XBL subscriptions, for starters, which I brought up already. Now that I think of it, you also have 1st-party peripherals and controllers. Weakening the Xbox console brand has no benefits, really. To say otherwise doesn't make sense to me, but I'm happy to read counter-points.
 
This is ALWAYS a good thing. Exclusivity hurts everyone.

Get your game on every platform so you can continue to make more games.

Hayvic said:
Losing all these exclusives is making me sick to my stomach :(
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Why? If you feel sick because more people get to play your favorite games, then you have problems you should work out.
 
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