Should Sony and Microsoft stop releasing games on Steam?
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memoryman3
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Yes, and Sony/MS have also subsidised their specialised hardware to build a userbase for developers to sell their games to.
Punished Miku
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And also invest in developing multiple large games per year, usually taking more risk because of their 30% cushion.
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Mr Moose
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What? No.
Fabieter
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Do we count Nintendo?
AREYOUOKAY?
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I never said it was I'm just saying that their competition has been so insignificant that Valve isn't threatened by them at all. Valve would always allow and welcome a new challenger, but who could possibly do anything to them at this point in time?
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memoryman3
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Nintendo already doesn't and they're doing fine for now. Epic is making tons from Fortnite still. EA and the like have sports games that gross much more on consoles.
clarky
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You think I'm buying a console to play fifa?
Steam is a huge market for potential customers, a lot of which ain't moving anywhere else to play some console games.
Sakura
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They've been subsidising hardware long before digital storefronts. Modern consoles aren't even subsidised as much as they used to be. Not to mention they are already making you pay for things like the privilege of playing online.
Regardless, devs have to pay the 30% pretty much any where they go, and if you are going to talk about building userbases for devs to sell their games to, Steam has one of the biggest.
Mayar
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First, it's important to understand that this is a meme and a joke, not literally. Second, let's quickly address some inaccuracies.Publishing: Does nothing
Game development: Does nothing
Discounts / Free Games / Rewards points: Does nothing
Investing in Game preservation: Does nothing
Lowering payments required for developers like Epic and MS Store: Does nothing
Publishing - Steam isn't a publisher, it's a store platform that provides product space, which requires payment, and deducts revenue from sales. This isn't the same as a publisher, which in most cases (with rare exceptions) is found before or during active game development, before the product was finished, and all the details and deductions are discussed in advance and stipulated in the contract.
Discounts / Free Games / Rewards point - This is a standard practice for stores and retail spaces, and one of the conditions for placing goods on them.
Investing in Game preservation - This is more relevant to GOG. Steam specifically changed the language and added a clause stating that the platform doesn't sell games, but rather access to them. From a conservation perspective, GOG does significantly more. Steam essentially no longer sells games, only access to them.
Lowering payments required for developers like Epic and MS Store - Let's at least not add competition between marketplaces to the list of merits—that's how the market works. You look at what's happening in the market and what your competitors are doing, and then make your offer more interesting and competitive. Otherwise, if you simply watch your competitors operate, they'll simply steal your market share.
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memoryman3
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Sony and MS could still sell their games to you through other PC launchers - MS wouldn't even need a launcher. The EA app isn't going anywhere either. You wouldn't need to buy a console. What is needed is Xbox's new aggregated game library.
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clarky
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I ain't launching shit if its not on Steam. I like all my games in one place.
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Nintendo could open a PC store and everyone would use it for their games on PC with zero complaints.
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A.Romero
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There can't be a monopoly on PC unless in the future Steam Machines become the norm and Valve decides to switch to a closed environment (which is very unlikely). Right now I can sit on my PC and pick where to get my games from. I usually pick Steam because that's the best option for me but if it stopped being the best option I could go to EGS, GOG, Origin, Ubi, etc.
Steam is still the best option because no one else has been able to match their features but that's something that can be solved if someone invests enough to develop a platform but no one wants to take the risk so...
It'd be great if all manufacturers published on all platforms, though. That would be the best scenario for consumers but not out of a unlikely (if not impossible) PC monopoly scenario.
Steam is still the best option because no one else has been able to match their features but that's something that can be solved if someone invests enough to develop a platform but no one wants to take the risk so...
It'd be great if all manufacturers published on all platforms, though. That would be the best scenario for consumers but not out of a unlikely (if not impossible) PC monopoly scenario.
clarky
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Probably the only one I'd consider. But they would have ridiculous prices that would never go on sale and have frame rate and resolution parity with Switch 2 or some stupid Nintendo shit.
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Topher
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The same Valve that allows publishers and devs sell keys to their games outside of Steam (using Steam keys) where Valve doesn't get a penny?
Imagine the uproar from stock holders if Sony or MS did that.
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Sanepar
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These guys don't understand that. Pc has options. We buy on Steam because is the best option.
AREYOUOKAY?
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All that would do is offer a legal way to buy their games on PC but it won't put a dent in Valve considering most would still pirate the Nintendo games they apparently hate on their Steam decks or whatever.
In the end Valve can't do anything to Nintendo on their home turf (Steam Deck vs. Switch) and Nintendo won't be able to do anything on theirs so it's a pointless stalemate.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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Playstation currently isn't what it was during the PS3 era. You won't see PS4 games dying or something like that. PS3 will end up having native support as well btw. We even have the first PS3 emulated game running on PS5 and Digital Foundry talked about it last week. It's just a matter of time.
PS having a unified ecosystem will end up happening.
Magic Carpet
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If Nintendo put their games on PC, I would live stream myself destroying my Switch 2.
Maybe get Elon to put as much Nintendo hardware that can fit into a Rocket and send it into the Sun.
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Lightbreak
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I hope they keep releasing them forever, if not, then i would have to buy the PS5 again
Gamer_By_Proxy
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It's still better for all of us if they get their library on PC to future proof. Even if it's their own app. People will always own PCs but relying on them to always have consoles or their subscription to their cloud can be iffy. They're one company. PC being many companies makes it a safer bet.
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MiguelItUp
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chilichote
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Sony should; in fact, simply to give its own platform a purpose. Xbox has ceased to exist as a standalone platform, so Microsoft should naturally continue to release the games everywhere.
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seb85
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So you are basically saying if these companies should stop earning additional millions of dollars? How genius
DeepEnigma
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PC only accounts for 1% of Sony's gaming revenue.
memoryman3
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Loss of third party revenue, and needing to pay a 20-30% fee to Steam for each sale. Microsoft will remain a platform holder even without a subsidised console.
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MayauMiao
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At 1% they might as well kept it exclusive but somehow they didn't do it.
Hudo
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If they do, I guess I won't play their games, then. Both Microsoft and Sony have such shitty ecosystems that I genuinely don't want to interact with them unless they have like 10+ absolute fucking bangers of exclusives (which neither of them have, not even fucking close. Sony have Astro Bot and Microsoft have Age of Empires and the Master Chief Collection). Steam is the least shitty ecosystem out of all of them.
clarky
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Nah I like my Switch 2 it would still have its place. I find steam deck and the like too big to lug around daily.
seb85
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Latest Sony financial report indicate that they earned a total of 1.5 billion dollar of revenue from porting their games to pc , who wouldn't want that ?
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clarky
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Still a loss. Companies like money last time I checked.
Topher
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Why would revenue driven corporations do something that causes a reduction in revenue?
DeepEnigma
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It's easy money if they profit. But in no way detrimental to them if they stopped today.
Griffon
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Make a decent store with a good reputation and I'll use it.
GoG and Steam are good and I'd buy games on either one without a second thought. They both garnered good will in different ways. And I'm fine having some games in one and not another, it's just a click away.
The awful ubi and ea launchers are a non starter for me, the MS store is even worse.
GoG and Steam are good and I'd buy games on either one without a second thought. They both garnered good will in different ways. And I'm fine having some games in one and not another, it's just a click away.
The awful ubi and ea launchers are a non starter for me, the MS store is even worse.
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memoryman3
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So why don't Nintendo port their games to Windows? It would be easy money for them, right?
Often these corps don't think ahead.
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Sardaukarama
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Buggy Loop
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Valve does nothing → Monopoly
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