Losing all these exclusives is making me sick to my stomach
Which one's?
Microsoft Releasing Exclusive Games on PC Is Great for Xbox Owners
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Which one's?
Yes, and we can enjoy those games on whatever platform(s) we prefer. Win-win.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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In terms Xbl subscriptions, they could be making up the loss revenue by offering their server infrastructure to devs, similar to Amazon.
As to peripherals, most of Microsofts console peripherals these day are PC compatible.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Yep I think it's great. I will even rebuy a few titles when I get a capable PC again in a few years.
DarthWalden
Banned
My expectation for a long time has been that every one of there big games that doesn't have some sort of live connectivity is going to launch on PC.
Despite what was announced today I don't think we will see halo/gears/Forza or any game with a heavy does of online play on PC unless the community on xbox isn't big enough to support it. I think the goal is to sell games and subscriptions.
It's a great thing though, honestly xb1/pc is such a great combination for me, the play so nicely together and I fully welcome any further games that offer cross buy/cross save/cross play so long as it doesn't destroy the competitiveness of a game (ie a competitvr fps game pitting controller players vs m&k players)
Despite what was announced today I don't think we will see halo/gears/Forza or any game with a heavy does of online play on PC unless the community on xbox isn't big enough to support it. I think the goal is to sell games and subscriptions.
It's a great thing though, honestly xb1/pc is such a great combination for me, the play so nicely together and I fully welcome any further games that offer cross buy/cross save/cross play so long as it doesn't destroy the competitiveness of a game (ie a competitvr fps game pitting controller players vs m&k players)
Now if you already have a mac daddy PC, but bought an Xbox One for the exclusives then you are coming from a different perspective. But at least you have some great games headed your way if that is where you prefer to play.
As far as the sales thing goes, I also see it as a plus. As I want these games to do well so that we can get more of them. PC sales will help that from where I am sitting. It is a wise move.
If what you're going to sell on your own platform isn't enough for a platform holder, then it's time to think about getting out of the publishing business. The thought that good sales weren't good enough for them is what's still hurting MS today. They could have kick ass franchises with Crimson Skies and Mech Assault, but sales weren't good enough for them and they didn't have the patience to stick with these franchises and maybe grow them.
GeordieMark
Member
Well that is a totally irrelevant post.
No, I understand that. It's just that I bought an Xbox only because it had a lot of exclusive games that I thought looked cool and skipped out on PS4 because of it. I'll keep the Xbox because I have a bunch of digital games on it that I want to play but I don't think I'll buy the next console.
Ninja Scooter
Member
it kind of drives home the point that high end PC gaming and console gaming are not really in competition with each other and the major publishers don't see it that way. Sure there is some overlap, but for the most part I think there is still a ton of people who, even if the first party games aren't technically "exclusive", would rather just pay $300-400 for a box that plays all of them. There is still a market for the Xbox home console and a reason for it to exist, despite the hyperbole you might hear from some.
Hell will freeze over before Nintendo releases their games on PC.
InsaneTiger
Member
Oh I probably do. Still running the 500 series in my rig, it got me through.
Well, it's debatable. There's positives and negatives. The positives are more choice for consumers, more of a market for these games, and a larger potential budget because of that too. The negative is that there are less reasons to purchase or keep an Xbox One. Whilst exclusives are shared across the PS4 and PC as well, there are still many tent pole exclusives that never see the light on any platform bar the PS4 (Uncharted 4, The Last Guardian, Horizon, Gran Turismo etc) and that offers extra incentive for people to buy or keep one, and allows the games to have more specific closed platform development groundwork. There's less of that with the Xbox One now, at least going forward anyway. Be interesting to see if future releases of Forza and Halo remain completely exclusive or not.
Ol No Bones
Banned
This.
All around this is good for devs and gamers. I think MS is going to have a more desirable platform to publish on for indies and such as well. Good move. I hope they go all the way and unite Win10 and Xbox as much as possible.
Luckydog
Member
How is this a bad thing? A huge amount of people who do not own an Xbox One will now be able to play games they couldn't before, Xbox owners still get a game they were looking forward to, and anyone who has both an Xbox and a decent PC now has a choice of convenience vs flexibility and power to run a game they want.
What is the real downside here? That Xbox only owners don't get to feel like a special snowflake because only they can play the game? Gamers win here, it is a good thing.
What is the real downside here? That Xbox only owners don't get to feel like a special snowflake because only they can play the game? Gamers win here, it is a good thing.
Right on. Of course there is still a market for Xbox consoles and nothing has changed there. Most people who buy an Xbox One and/or a PS4 do so because they prefer consoles. This does not make their Xbox One useless. In fact, it will help the games get bigger and give us more as a result.
Complicated
Banned
This is awesome. I wish Sony would commit to it on this level as well. I'm never going to buy every game on PC, but it's cool to have the choice. People saying games are being stolen from "their" platform can't go away quickly enough.
The only way I can see this being good for Xbox One owners is if the PC and Xbox game SKU are the same.
As in, I buy the game from Xbox its the same download as PC.
Same code.
Same everything.
In that manner, ditch the Xbox One, make it a Windows 10 box.
Let it load Steam.
Now Xbox One owners get to play everything on Steam like a PC...
Such as oh...say Street Fighter V.
That would be good for everyone.
yeah, this decision isn't going to sway your average console owner to the pc.
the recommended specs for Quantum Break include a 980ti which is like twice as much as an xbox one on its own
That's silly.
RedSparrows
Member
Choice is good!
Unless my special snowflake house of cards is threatened! Then it's very bad!!!
What you're asking for is a PC.
Microsoft would never open their ecosystem to Steam in a million years.
Ol No Bones
Banned
It's good for gamers no matter how you look at it. I don't care if it effects Xbox hardware sales some that has little effect on gamers. More choices is good. Gears is on PC I don't see why the next Halo or Forza wouldn't. Unite the platforms completely and it opens up a whole world of possibilities for MS.
Disaster Nebraska
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They could be. They really could be. Or maybe not. All we know is that lower console sales of the Xbox One means lower XBL subscriptions. There's a hard upper limit to the number of subscriptions you can sell based on your console installed base.
Concerning peripherals, surely you can see the market value of having a console out that pushes your peripherals? Sure, Xbox One console peripherals are compatible with PC, but they're also competing in a very different market.
I understand the aspect of wanting games to sell well, but there's a fundamental catch to a game being exclusive vs not. I want there to be exclusives (or at least I want 1st-party ones). Exclusives are the gaming version of a sales pitch. "See this game? It's running on our system and only on our system. We made it. Check it out".
Moving away from that is unknown territory.
Why do people have difficulty understanding that perhaps the console was purchased under the assumption that there would be no PC version? As in, they wanted the game and didn't have a choice?
It's baffling how we have a documented history of console gaming stretching back nearly 40 years, the above business model has been used for that duration, yet some people are "baffled" at how exclusives work.
MS owns Xbox
MS owns Windows
MS makes money from Xbox game purchases
MS makes money from Windows 10 store game purchases
MS knows there are console only gamers
MS knows there are PC only gamers
MS knows there is an overlap of console and PC gamers
MS wants to maximize money
MS releases software on platforms to maximize money (Office on iOS and Android)
Neogaf users who think this is bad are dumb. Plain and simple.
MS owns Windows
MS makes money from Xbox game purchases
MS makes money from Windows 10 store game purchases
MS knows there are console only gamers
MS knows there are PC only gamers
MS knows there is an overlap of console and PC gamers
MS wants to maximize money
MS releases software on platforms to maximize money (Office on iOS and Android)
Neogaf users who think this is bad are dumb. Plain and simple.
Ol No Bones
Banned
This right here.
Downside is a struggling platform holder has given people 1 less reason to buy it. I can see why any Xbox One owner would be pissed. A platform that is having sales issues just gave millions of people a reason not to buy it. If sales tank enough support goes bye bye and how is that good for Xbox One owners?
Some of the crazyness here is why I hate GAF sometimes. MS does something actually good and cool for the consumers. Something that would help people with good PCs that would otherwise never buy an X1 to play those games and it is a bad thing? MS is doomed? For real?!
Are you freaking serious dude? Sick why? Because you can play the game on a PC. Because in some cases when you buy the Xbox version you get. Are you really getting sick because MS is giving out a good deal.
Man lay off that console war bs and learn to enjoy the good things that don't come around too often. The X1 is still a success, you still have it, you will still get games for it that you can enjoy. If this small fact really gets you sick you are really stupid on in it for the wrong reasons.
Losing to what?Losing all these exclusives is making me sick to my stomach
Are you freaking serious dude? Sick why? Because you can play the game on a PC. Because in some cases when you buy the Xbox version you get. Are you really getting sick because MS is giving out a good deal.
Man lay off that console war bs and learn to enjoy the good things that don't come around too often. The X1 is still a success, you still have it, you will still get games for it that you can enjoy. If this small fact really gets you sick you are really stupid on in it for the wrong reasons.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
It's totally normal, if you buy something of course you're going to want your purchase to be justified.
And everyone else does not have less games, you can still buy those xbox games, you just have to buy the console too.
Steverulez
Member
I think if you look at where Xbox isn't doing very well (most regions outside of NA/UK), this gives the game a much better chance to sell in mainland europe etc where Xbox One is pretty weak.
The game will sell 5 million units, we will get Quantum Break 2 and 3, and everyone will be happy
<- May or may not happen
Agreed. While they probably lose a small amount of margin from console sales (if they even made a profit to begin with) and potential Xbox Live subs, I'm sure the money gained from selling to Windows 10 & possible Steam owners will make up for it. The number of people going wild and selling their XBO's is likely also small. There's a reason people choose console over PC.
If they do ditch Xbox and build a rig, they'll buy the game anyway. It's a win-win.
RowdyReverb
Member
The only issue I have with it is de-incentivizing owning an XB1, which in turn exacerbates the issue of indies ignoring the console in favor of PS4/PC releases with delayed or nonexistent XB1 ports. I can play indies with simple graphics, but 3D ones are out of my reach right now
-MD-
Member
Losing all these exclusives is making me sick to my stomach
This is reminding me of when those Vita games got leaked for PC and people said they felt physically ill over it.
Come on, lol.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Have some respect. He's a veteran of the "Console Warz". He and his buddies didn't risk their lives so that PC and xbox players could play games together in harmony.
Ol No Bones
Banned
There is an assumption that there is this massive amount of people with PCs more capable than XB1s that own XB1s as well. I don't think that is as high as people think. Nobody loses anything. If you have a PC that is better than the XB1 sell the XB1 and buy a few games. It's that simple. MS is doing you a favor.
So I should expect to see a Microsoft published game (that's not minecraft) on a playstation console in the coming years then? Since they want to maximize profit?
Pretty much this.
Additionally, I didn't realize there was so much hype to play Quantum Break till today...
It seems like before today the buzz around the game on NeoGAF was very small... But all of a sudden it goes to PC and now people are coming out of the walls excited for it?
Come on.
.Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Nice one.
Microsoft is releasing previously Xbox-only games on PC. As a business decision there is no way in hell these games will release on Steam. And personally, I'm happy with them releasing on the W10 store. If you only play games on Steam then you don't have to buy them if you don't want to.
SensibleSucker
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GeordieMark
Member
I doubt it
Ol No Bones
Banned
Maybe they want to maximize profits by releasing games on their own Platform rather than competition? There is a big difference between the Win10 store and PlayStation.