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Because those game aren't owned by the platform holder and they aren't exclusive. I buy systems because of exclusives. Platform without exclusives holds no value in my book, especially when better versions of those so-called exclusive are available on another platform. If i have a PC and Xbone , Xbone is irrelevant as it could possibly be. To me it would hold no value. If I was an Xbox only gamer then it would be a different story, but I'd still be upset because I bought a system to play exclusives only to find out that those games aren't exclusive anymore and i got inferior version of them.

Lol, that's some major inferiority issues that hypotheticla xbone user has

Surprise, almsot eveyr game is superior on PC. If you're losing sleep over this, you need to re-evaluate some stuff in your life.

Again, this comes down to list wars bullshit from whiny children. No more no less.

 

[cyber_ninja]

Lol, that's some major inferiority issues that hypotheticla xbone user has

Surprise, almsot eveyr game is superior on PC. If you're losing sleep over this, you need to re-evaluate some stuff in your life.

Again, this comes down to list wars bullshit from whiny children. No more no less.

You can LOL all you want son but I don't give a shit about list wars nor losing any sleep. You are the one who comes off as a whiny child.

 

[etta]

Is it really "tricking?" I'm as pro-consumer as it gets, but these companies are in no way obligated to share their curated content. Seems pretty straight-forward to me; if you want their exclusive content, you need to invest in their product. These companies are spending millions on such exclusive content after all, and not without risk.

Yea, not really, it's capitalism.

 

[Trup1aya]

You can LOL all you want son but I don't give a shit about list wars nor losing any sleep. You are the one who comes off as a whiny child.

It is purely ll a list wars thing though. Someone who buys Xbox does so because they want to play on a console, and they are interested in the games that are/ will be on that console.

a game's availabitity on another platform, doesn't somehow make it less fun on the platform you own...

I'm not sure This hypothetical Xbox one only gamer, who would have gotten a PC instead had he known it would get QB, exists in any significant numbers

 

[Bgamer90]

Because those game aren't owned by the platform holder and they aren't exclusive. I buy systems because of exclusives. Platform without exclusives holds no value in my book, especially when better versions of those so-called exclusive are available on another platform. If i have a PC and Xbone , Xbone is irrelevant as it could possibly be. To me it would hold no value.

Okay, and that would definitely make sense.

If I was an Xbox only gamer then it would be a different story, but I'd still be upset because I bought a system to play exclusives only to find out that those games aren't exclusive anymore and i got inferior version of them.

If you are an Xbox only gamer that doesn't care about PC then those games still can't be found or played on the PS4 or Wii U. Hence why "console exclusives" are still viewed as true exclusives to most console gamers.

Were you mad at the remakes this current gen then? Did you buy games on PS3/360 to then find out this gen that you could have waited and bought much better versions on XB1/PS4?

 

[VolticArchangel]

Why? Because PC port will receive a boost in graphics and performance. On top of that PC crowd gets to enjoy MP free of charge. That's why. Dunno about you Pal, but I'd feel a little upset if I purchased a product and then found out that I was ripped off because I paid more for less.

While there's no alternative to your performance downside, other than Xbox owners moving to a PC of course, I can very well get behind and support everyone for wanting free MP on every platform, unlike all the corporate apologists who claim "well, you paid them all these years, so doesn't make a difference if you continue to get ripped off."

Where they're completely disingenuous is the fact that entire lineup of IP's owned by them (read: OWNED BY MSFT unlike SONY's situation with SFV), like KI/GeOW: UE/Forza 6/Forza Horizon 3/Halo 5/Halo: MCC instead of an occasional Halo 2 Vista or a Gears of War GFWL, can be played by the PC folk for free and the Xbox userbase has to cough up $60 a year. Another complete deterrent for Xbox purchases or ownership would be any future MP focused game being locked behind gold for MP on X1, but free on PC and releasing the same day on PC & Xbox One. When you say this, it will get spun into "WOW OMG CONSOLE FANBOY WANTS TIMED EXCLUSIVITY GRRRRR", but your real intention is just free MP and happy that more players are getting to play that game since it's headed to PC. Let alone PC/X1 crossplay, which is an even worse value proposition for an Xbox user paying for MP.

Another popular argument is "Oh b-b-but PC users don't have Games With Gold, so it's worthy for you to pay". That's entirely the point. Feel GWG is "worthy enough" to move subscriptions, like PS+ did with the PS3? Then don't lock MP behind a paywall.

Granted, the LIVE subs bring in free money (tons of'em), it would indeed be a game changer vs PS4 going forward. Since exclusives are eliminated (or they seem so for the past 3-4 days, with just Quantum Break confirmed officially) from the equation now, go for your mainstream revenue generator. Multiplats. Imagine the Destiny, CoD, BF, Fifa, and the first party big hitters like Halo, Gears, Forza blowing up in numbers if MP went free. While it may not get closer to PS4 numbers in consoles sold, software won't be far behind. All of this w/o spinning off the Xbox LIVE sub, and just by having GWG as it's forefront value proposition, just like the PS+ IGC once was for PS3.

 

[statham]

Don't know about you guys but I always try to get the best bang for the money I spent. If you think it's OK to get less for more then it's up to you. As for me I hate to be ripped off.

If PC crowd has ALWAYS been able to enjoy MP free of charge then why the fuck the same company charges its other customers for the same service?

Yes there might be positives for Xbox owners in a long run but it remains to be seen, but if I was an xbox only gamer I'd be pretty upset because I have to pay the same amount of money as other guys and get less.

I have no time at the moment to go back and forth with you guys and I don't want to at the moment. I've stated my opinion and that's it. Agree or disagree it's up to you.

Disagree my xbox is under my TV, my PC is in another room. I enjoy both, I expect most have this same setup.

 

[cyber_ninja]

Disagree my xbox is under my TV, my PC is in another room. I enjoy both, I expect most have this same setup.

And I expect the most to trade their xbones or sell them as they become redundant and irrelevant.

 

[Feel_The_Pain]

Sounds good to me. Xbox for online play, pc for single player.

 

[etta]

And I expect the most to trade their xbones or sell them as they become redundant and irrelevant.

 

[Trup1aya]

And I expect the most to trade their xbones or sell them as they become redundant and irrelevant.

So you think people who prefer consoles are just gonna become PC gamers? Not happening.

If you look at sales trends... First party exclusives are not the main reasons console gamers by consoles.

 

[Rocketz]

Sounds good to me. Xbox for online play, pc for single player.

If I get to build my PC this will be my plan. Best of both worlds for me.

 

[statham]

And I expect the most to trade their xbones or sell them as they become redundant and irrelevant.

?

 

[cyber_ninja]

You reading comprehension is limping, if you understood you wouldn't be laughing. Let me rephrase it for you: most pc gamers who happen to have xbones have little to no reason to keep their xboxes if all xbone exclusives end up on pc. I know I wouldn't.

And what's up with I believe in Phil Spencer shit? Is it some cult or what?

 

[Sky Chief]

Wait, is Scalebound really coming to PC!? This is total shit, every game I own or want to buy for Xbox One is also on PC now. There is no reason to own an Xbox One and a PC and honestly I don't know why I ever bought my Xbox now because I hardly user it anyway.

 

[Cmerrill]

I'm obviously late to the discussion, but how is this good for the XB1? This completely devalues the system and makes its awesome for PC owners, not the other way around.

Why buy an X1 when you can get the games on your PC. You can't do that with the ps4, so you have to buy their hardware.

Am I missing something?

 

[flkraven]

You reading comprehension is limping, if you understood you wouldn't be laughing. Let me rephrase it for you: most pc gamers who happen to have xbones have little to no reason to keep their xboxes if all xbone exclusives end up on pc. I know I wouldn't.

Whenever Ps4 or xb1 list wars pop up, most of the Playstation list is on PC too. Seems that Sony hasn't been affected so far

 

[statham]

You reading comprehension is limping, if you understood you wouldn't be laughing. Let me rephrase it for you: most pc gamers who happen to have xbones have little to no reason to keep their xboxes if all xbone exclusives end up on pc. I know I wouldn't.

Are you a pc gamer?

 

[etta]

You reading comprehension is limping, if you understood you wouldn't be laughing. Let me rephrase it for you: most pc gamers who happen to have xbones have little to no reason to keep their xboxes if all xbone exclusives end up on pc. I know I wouldn't.

You mean those who bought their Xbox Ones solely for its exclusives, right?
Because I'm willing to bet that there's a bigger fraction of people who got the Xbox One for other reasons as well than the fraction that got it just for exclusives.
So your "most" is null.

 

[cyber_ninja]

Whenever Ps4 or xb1 list wars pop up, most of the Playstation list is on PC too. Seems that Sony hasn't been affected so far

I hope you enjoyed playing all first party games from Sony on your pc.

 

[cyber_ninja]

You mean those who bought their Xbox Ones for its exclusives, right?
Because I'm willing to bet that there's a bigger fraction of people who got the Xbox One for other reasons as well than the fraction that got it just for exclusives.
So your "most" is null.

You still don't get it, sigh...Talking to you guys is like talking to a wall. Keep believing in Phil I guess. I feel like my iq is dropping. I better get outta here.

 

[Yoday]

The idea that this trend is in any way bad for the console is beyond rational comprehenssion to me. The only thing this changes for the console crowd is that it potentially gives them some games to play on the PC if they ever decide to go that route, or it gives them the option to play on another device if they have a capable PC. The vast majority of console gamers play on consoles for a reason, and some MS exclusives going to PC isn't going to push a console gamer to spend $1000 on a PC unless they were already thinking about doing it to begin with. The graphical improvements that PC games provide aren't that important to most people, and they sure as hell aren't going to give up ease of use to get them. The console and PC markets are very different, and both have their place. Assuming there is going to be any measurable exodus from consoles because first party exclusives are going to PC shows a massive disconnect. All this does is expand the Xbox ecosystem.

 

[Yoday]

You reading comprehension is limping, if you understood you wouldn't be laughing. Let me rephrase it for you: most pc gamers who happen to have xbones have little to no reason to keep their xboxes if all xbone exclusives end up on pc. I know I wouldn't.

And what's up with I believe in Phil Spencer shit? Is it some cult or what?

If you only have an XBO to play exclusives then why does it matter if you get rid of the system and buy exclusives on the PC? The console exists to sell software, not for console wars bullshit. MS doesn't care if you're buying games on Windows 10 or XBO, its the exact same thing to them.

 

[etta]

You still don't get it, sigh...Talking to you guys is like talking to a wall. Keppe believing in Phil I guess. I feel like my iq is dropping. I better get outta here.

Nice deflection.

And yes it's a cult. You can't be a part of it, though, you're not cool enough for the Bone Zone.

People have Netflix on their iPads. Those same people have an iPhone. Those two items share the same apps (for the most part). Now are people getting rid of their iPads because they have the same apps on their iPhone? I would argue no (granted people aren't buying as many iPads as they were before...but same could be said for PCs), why? Because it's a bigger screen, they can bring it around with them...in other words, convenience. Now are there a number of people who will get rid of their iPad and just use there iPhone 6S? Sure, the screen may be big enough for them, but the majority...most likely not. They bought it for convenience...not for the app per se.

That's analogous to what some people on this forum are saying.

It has come to my attention that this above is an exercise in futility.

 

[Zedox]

People have Netflix on their iPads. Those same people have an iPhone. Those two items share the same apps (for the most part). Now are people getting rid of their iPads because they have the same apps on their iPhone? I would argue no (granted people aren't buying as many iPads as they were before...but same could be said for PCs), why? Because it's a bigger screen, they can bring it around with them...in other words, convenience. Now are there a number of people who will get rid of their iPad and just use there iPhone 6S? Sure, the screen may be big enough for them, but the majority...most likely not. They bought it for convenience...not for the app per se.

That's analogous to what some people on this forum are saying.

 

[nekkid]

People have Netflix on their iPads. Those same people have an iPhone. Those two items share the same apps (for the most part). Now are people getting rid of their iPads because they have the same apps on their iPhone? I would argue no (granted people aren't buying as many iPads as they were before...but same could be said for PCs), why? Because it's a bigger screen, they can bring it around with them...in other words, convenience. Now are there a number of people who will get rid of their iPad and just use there iPhone 6S? Sure, the screen may be big enough for them, but the majority...most likely not. They bought it for convenience...not for the app per se.

That's analogous to what some people on this forum are saying.

Something something terrible comparison...

I completely agree, FWIW. It seems that most people think the only correct answer is having just one way to play games, and sell everything else.

Also, people's lack of understanding that gaming preference can be, and more often is, about more than just the available games is bizarre.

But whatever, Xbox is dad etc.

 

[Markoman]

People have Netflix on their iPads. Those same people have an iPhone. Those two items share the same apps (for the most part). Now are people getting rid of their iPads because they have the same apps on their iPhone? I would argue no (granted people aren't buying as many iPads as they were before...but same could be said for PCs), why? Because it's a bigger screen, they can bring it around with them...in other words, convenience. Now are there a number of people who will get rid of their iPad and just use there iPhone 6S? Sure, the screen may be big enough for them, but the majority...most likely not. They bought it for convenience...not for the app per se.

That's analogous to what some people on this forum are saying.

Please, stop with the iphone-ipad comparissons - it's not working that way.

Iphone = phone = primarily a device for mobile communication
Ipad = same thing with bigger display - good for surfing the Inet on your couch for example, bad for using it on the go

PC = stationary device that can play games on a display (monitor/TV)
Xbox One = cheap stationary device that plays games on a display (monitor/TV)
Xbox One = cheap PC

What I'm trying to say. Those who are not going for cheap, will go for PC.
I would have paid 600,-€ on launch for my PS4 if it was powerful enough to run games like Bloodborne with 60fps. MS is giving people the option to play definitive versions of their first party games on PC now- for those who are willing to pay the extra bucks for their hobby. This is not the end of the world for current Xbox owners, but the 'Why is it good for Xbox owners' phrase almost sounds like a hot girl offering you friendship instead of relationship/sex.

And btw I'm not a PC gamer and even I have to wonder that there are still people out there who come up with the idea that every PC has to placed beneath a desk in a seperate room. My PC is hooked to my TV via HDMI and I have no problems operating it from my couch. Hell, have all of you studied interior design or what? What's the difference of having a device standing besides my rack or a similar huge device inside my rack? Lord, help....

Once again, MS made PC gaming more attractive and the One less attractive to me, because now I can build a new PC in 1-2 years that will still be more powerful than a possible XboxOne successor and I can pick up all of the MS exclusives.

 

[wapplew]

People have Netflix on their iPads. Those same people have an iPhone. Those two items share the same apps (for the most part). Now are people getting rid of their iPads because they have the same apps on their iPhone? I would argue no (granted people aren't buying as many iPads as they were before...but same could be said for PCs), why? Because it's a bigger screen, they can bring it around with them...in other words, convenience. Now are there a number of people who will get rid of their iPad and just use there iPhone 6S? Sure, the screen may be big enough for them, but the majority...most likely not. They bought it for convenience...not for the app per se.

That's analogous to what some people on this forum are saying.

Isn't it more like some people subscribe Netflix for Netflix exclusive original show, later been told same show is available day and date on Hulu plus?

 

[Zedox]

Please, stop with the iphone-ipad comparissons - it's not working that way.

Iphone = phone = primarily a device for mobile communication
Ipad = same thing with bigger display - good for surfing the Inet on your couch for example, bad for using it on the go

PC = stationary device that can play games on a display (monitor/TV)
Xbox One = cheap stationary device that plays games on a display (monitor/TV)
Xbox One = cheap PC

What I'm trying to say. Those who are not going for cheap, will go for PC.
I would have paid 600,-€ on launch for my PS4 if it was powerful enough to run games like Bloodborne with 60fps. MS is giving people the option to play definitive versions of their first party games on PC now- for those who are willing to pay the extra bucks for their hobby. This is not the end of the world for current Xbox owners, but the 'Why is it good for Xbox owners' phrase almost sounds like a hot girl offering you friendship instead of relationship/sex.

And btw I'm not a PC gamer and even I have to wonder how people come up with the idea that every PC has to placed beneath a desk in a seperate room. My PC is hooked to my TV via HDMI and I have no problems operating it from my couch. Hell, have all of you studied interior design or what? What's the difference of having a device standing besides my rack or a similar huge device inside my rack? Lord, help....

Once again, MS made PC gaming more attractive and the One less attractive to me, because now I can build a new PC in 1-2 years that will still be more powerful than a possible XboxOne successor and I can pick up all of the MS exclusives.

First of all, my PC is hooked up to my primary TV as well, but majority of people aren't like that, they have PCs on their own monitor. I don't know why you think a majority or even a good number (i'm assuming based off of your comment) of people don't have it in a separate room or on a different display that's separate from their couch/TV. Just because it's not applicable to you doesn't mean that we won't talk about what majority of people who have desktop PCs (you know...at a desk) have them placed.

The analogy for the iPhone and iPad is an analogy that people can buy devices that have very similar features but have conveniences that warrant the purchase. iPad has a bigger screen. Xbox is primarily played in front of a TV with people on their couch/bed/whatever and has TV features. To people, they like that experience and still like PC games. It's not that hard to follow.

Great you don't have to buy a Xbox One, great for you, great for MS as you still will buy the games. Congrats.

Isn't it more like some people subscribe Netflix for Netflix exclusive original show, later been told same show is available day and date on Hulu plus?

No. It's more like, Netflix has an original shows that can only be run on your phone then later told that show can now also be run on your TV. You already own a phone, you already own a TV, but now you can play it on both and you're still in Netflix ecosystem.

Games coming to PC is games coming to Windows 10 store. The Xbox digital store will be apart of the Windows Store...it's all one store. You are buying it from the same exact place. That store is just on different hardware platforms (PC devices, and Xbox Console devices) That is the only difference. It's not like they are giving it away on someone else's platform...it's their own. Your analogy is like MS giving their IPs to Nintendo or Sony consoles.

 

[LukasTaves]

Isn't it more like some people subscribe Netflix for Netflix exclusive original show, later been told same show is available day and date on Hulu plus?

No, because supposedly you only pay for the game once.

Again, Ms isn't just releasing games on pc, they are releasing on their store soon to be unified with the xbone.

 

[OléGunner]

I mean it does make the XB1 less attractive...to forum goers and Twitter folk going crazy with multiple consoles and PC who feel betrayed.

To Avg Joe who owns an XB1, I doubt he even knows or cares about this entire situation.

They still only see Xbox as the only place to play Halo/Forza/Gears/QB etc.
They're not losing or gaining anything.
PC wins and MS wins by getting a better profit deal. Simple.

 

[N.Domixis]

This will affect some people, there is no doubt about that. But for the most part, some people are to lazy or don't care to build a pic. We just stick too consoles for convinience.

 

[Kezen]

I mean it does make the XB1 less attractive...to forum goers and Twitter folk going crazy with multiple consoles and PC who feel betrayed.

To Avg Joe who owns an XB1, I doubt he even knows or cares about this entire situation.

They still only see Xbox as the only place to play Halo/Forza/Gears/QB etc.
They're not losing or gaining anything.
PC wins and MS wins by getting a better profit deal. Simple.

Agreed. Those who must feel betrayed are PC gamers who bought a console specifically for exclusives.
But not everyone is interested in PC gaming.

I hope to see more and more Xbox One AAA games on the store. I'm not deluded enough to believe they will port every last one of them but future AAA exclusives could come to Windows 10 such as Gears 4, Scalebound, Forza Horizon 3 or Crackdown.

 

[Hubble]

And I expect the most to trade their xbones or sell them as they become redundant and irrelevant.

LOL. You do not realize the typical Xbox One owner is NOT a PC gamer. A Xbox One owner person likely doesn't have Steam installed. Likely does not own a powerful desktop PC for video gaming (Pads and laptops are common for work). They do not know how to change graphics settings. They are not used to gaming with a keyboard and a mouse. They are two completely different crowds. This will have little to no impact in the console wars. Heck, if Microsoft can add in some crossplay/cross-save and cross-buy, then I think it will actually boost Xbox sales because people would like more PC-console integration.

 

[zufuel]

Quantum Break Xbox One-PC Crossplay Details Revealed

http://gameranx.com/updates/id/3769...-will-make-it-more-accessible-to-more-gamers/

 

[Trup1aya]

Please, stop with the iphone-ipad comparissons - it's not working that way.

Iphone = phone = primarily a device for mobile communication
Ipad = same thing with bigger display - good for surfing the Inet on your couch for example, bad for using it on the go

PC = stationary device that can play games on a display (monitor/TV)
Xbox One = cheap stationary device that plays games on a display (monitor/TV)
Xbox One = cheap PC

What I'm trying to say. Those who are not going for cheap, will go for PC.
I would have paid 600,-€ on launch for my PS4 if it was powerful enough to run games like Bloodborne with 60fps. MS is giving people the option to play definitive versions of their first party games on PC now- for those who are willing to pay the extra bucks for their hobby. This is not the end of the world for current Xbox owners, but the 'Why is it good for Xbox owners' phrase almost sounds like a hot girl offering you friendship instead of relationship/sex.

And btw I'm not a PC gamer and even I have to wonder that there are still people out there who come up with the idea that every PC has to placed beneath a desk in a seperate room. My PC is hooked to my TV via HDMI and I have no problems operating it from my couch. Hell, have all of you studied interior design or what? What's the difference of having a device standing besides my rack or a similar huge device inside my rack? Lord, help....

Once again, MS made PC gaming more attractive and the One less attractive to me, because now I can build a new PC in 1-2 years that will still be more powerful than a possible XboxOne successor and I can pick up all of the MS exclusives.

I think the thing you and other aren't grasping is that The fact that removing the NEED to purchase Xbox hardware in order to buy into the Xbox ecosystem is a good thing for all parties interested in Xbox gaming. They are opening a gate way to new customers.

For Xbox One only gamers, there's no negative impact: You'll still be able to play the games you've been looking forward to. On the positive side, the games you like will sell more copies, and have larger online populations, and thusly, encourage more 1st party software investment. Remember there are a lot of people who simply have no interest in gaming on a PC.

For the person who owns an Xbox and a PC you now have a plethora of options. Options are good. For many, the ability to share progress across platforms will be a god send. Others will appreciate that they have a means to travel and play on Xbox, while PC will be used at home. Sure, some people may no longer see a need for the console, but hey, that just becomes more money to buy more software.

For the PC-Only or PC+PS4 owner you have access to AAA games that you otherwise would not have been able to play.

For Microsoft, this amounts to an opportunity to achieve their goals in this space. Giving people a way to access your content and services with a minimum barrier to entry is the key to success in an industry that's largely becoming software and service driven. They'll sell more software, and have more gamers using their services than ever. And they'll be getting buy-in to their ecosystem from people who otherwise never would have touched it.

I think detractors are way too focused on a potential lost Xbox one sale to realize that in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter.

 

[nekkid]

The thing I don't get is, why the anger now? Surely the anger should have been at MS "forcing" you to buy an XB1 to get these exclusives. That's the point at which you were impacted negatively - this news should only be indifferent or positive to your situation.

 

[Markoman]

First of all, my PC is hooked up to my primary TV as well, but majority of people aren't like that, they have PCs on their own monitor. I don't know why you think a majority or even a good number (i'm assuming based off of your comment) of people don't have it in a separate room or on a different display that's separate from their couch/TV. Just because it's not applicable to you doesn't mean that we won't talk about what majority of people who have desktop PCs (you know...at a desk) have them placed.

The analogy for the iPhone and iPad is an analogy that people can buy devices that have very similar features but have conveniences that warrant the purchase. iPad has a bigger screen. Xbox is primarily played in front of a TV with people on their couch/bed/whatever and has TV features. To people, they like that experience and still like PC games. It's not that hard to follow.

Great you don't have to buy a Xbox One, great for you, great for MS as you still will buy the games. Congrats.

Well, you are building an argument around the general misconception that a PC can't be used like a console here - I'm doing it, you are doing it and others won't because there are uninformed. An iphone+ipad combo cost you 800-1000$ at least, both devices have distinct advantages and disadvantages. Please, tell me why someone who is willing to pay the same price for a PC should buy a Xbox now? The size of the case? The few games left that PC does not have? Xboxlive?
Price - is not an argument- see your own example of people owning Iphones+ipads which can be twisted around in favour of PC: Why spent 300$ on a gaming system when I can buy a 800-1000$ PC that does this significantly better + so much more.
Convenience - don't let me start on this. I get the 'running system' argument (driver issues etc.), but that's all that is left atm.

 

[Hendrick's]

I'm a bit confused by Microsoft's motivation to do this, but I'm excited at the fact that all the PC gamers will be unloading their Xbox versions for cheap on Ebay.

It doesn't work that way though does it? Are they both tied to one XBL account?

 

[wapplew]

No. It's more like, Netflix has an original shows that can only be run on your phone then later told that show can now also be run on your TV. You already own a phone, you already own a TV, but now you can play it on both and you're still in Netflix ecosystem.

Games coming to PC is games coming to Windows 10 store. The Xbox digital store will be apart of the Windows Store...it's all one store. You are buying it from the same exact place. That store is just on different hardware platforms (PC devices, and Xbox Console devices) That is the only difference. It's not like they are giving it away on someone else's platform...it's their own. Your analogy is like MS giving their IPs to Nintendo or Sony consoles.

I sure hope MS can give clear message about this movement to everyone cause it does need some effort to explain the "big picture".
It's one double edge sword now and we know what happened to Xbox one last time they didn't communicate well.

Whether the master plan will sucess or not we don't really know, but immediate effect of the movement; MS losing trust of some maybe very minor loyal customers.
Some of them are very vocal and influential on social network.

 

[nekkid]

I sure hope MS can give clear message about this movement to everyone cause it does need some effort to explaining the "big picture".
It's one double edge sword now and we know what happened to Xbox one last time they didn't communicate well.

Whether the master plan will sucess or not we don't really know, but immediate effect of the movement; MS losing trust of some maybe very minor loyal customers.
Some of them are very vocal and influential on social network.

There may not be much to communicate, at this point. This may be the start of a trend, it may not live up to their expectations and cool those plans. Another 180 would be more damaging.

 

[Genio88]

Microsoft need to get the Windows 10 Store better though, i want to buy Quantum Break there but it's a shame that there is no preorder and predownload option, it sucks having to download all 60gb on day one

 

[RedSparrows]

The thing I don't get is, why the anger now? Surely the anger should have been at MS "forcing" you to buy an XB1 to get these exclusives. That's the point at which you were impacted negatively - this news should only be indifferent or positive to your situation.

Quite. Also, I've seen several people post in this thread that now the XBox they 'never play' is worthless.

Hint: if you never played it, sell it already. This gives you an 'out'.

?!

 

[Ninja Sharingan]

Don't know about you guys but I always try to get the best bang for the money I spent. If you think it's OK to get less for more then it's up to you. As for me I hate to be ripped off.

If PC crowd has ALWAYS been able to enjoy MP free of charge then why the fuck the same company charges its other customers for the same service?

Yes there might be positives for Xbox owners in a long run but it remains to be seen, but if I was an xbox only gamer I'd be pretty upset because I have to pay the same amount of money as other guys and get less.

I have no time at the moment to go back and forth with you guys and I don't want to at the moment. I've stated my opinion and that's it. Agree or disagree it's up to you.

Are you a PC gamer? What do you play? you can't play Playstation because sony added a mandatory charge to playing online this gen. You obviously don't play Xbox, so you must be a PC gamer? I don't understand your upset your points are invalid. Microsoft doesn't own steam, microsoft doesn't own the services on PC that host the online :/

 

[gai_shain]

And I expect the most to trade their xbones or sell them as they become redundant and irrelevant.

you do realise for alot of console gamers pc is never an option anyway right? So nothing changes for them aynway

 

[Zedox]

Well, you are building an argument around the general misconception that a PC can't be used like a console here - I'm doing it, you are doing it and others won't because there are uninformed. An iphone+ipad combo cost you 800-1000$ at least, both devices have distinct advantages and disadvantages. Please, tell me why someone who is willing to pay the same price for a PC should buy a Xbox now? The size of the case? The few games left that PC does not have? Xboxlive?
Price - is not an argument- see your own example of people owning Iphones+ipads which can be twisted around in favour of PC: Why spent 300$ on a gaming system when I can buy a 800-1000$ PC that does this significantly better + so much more.
Convenience - don't let me start on this. I get the 'running system' argument (driver issues etc.), but that's all that is left atm.

You don't have to! It's an option. I'm not saying that you should buy and get a system. I don't get money from selling you an Xbox (nor care to). You say others won't because they are uninformed...you know that population is the biggest population of gamers out there. I'm not here to tell anyone that if you want buy a PC to just get an Xbox. Why are you making it seem like I'm saying that. I don't care what people buy. I'm saying that if you had both there are advantages and disadvantages and are generally used differently so if someone had both it's advantageous because of the scenarios in which you can use them.

 

[Markoman]

I think the thing you and other aren't grasping is that The fact that removing the NEED to purchase Xbox hardware in order to buy into the Xbox ecosystem is a good thing for all parties interested in Xbox gaming. They are opening a gate way to new customers.

For Xbox One only gamers, there's no negative impact: You'll still be able to play the games you've been looking forward to. On the positive side, the games you like will sell more copies, and have larger online populations, and thusly, encourage more 1st party software investment. Remember there are a lot of people who simply have no interest in gaming on a PC.

For the person who owns an Xbox and a PC you now have a plethora of options. Options are good. For many, the ability to share progress across platforms will be a god send. Others will appreciate that they have a means to travel and play on Xbox, while PC will be used at home. Sure, some people may no longer see a need for the console, but hey, that just becomes more money to buy more software.

For the PC-Only or PC+PS4 owner you have access to AAA games that you otherwise would not have been able to play.

For Microsoft, this amounts to an opportunity to achieve their goals in this space. Giving people a way to access your content and services with a minimum barrier to entry is the key to success in an industry that's largely becoming software and service driven. They'll sell more software, and have more gamers using their services than ever. And they'll be getting buy-in to their ecosystem from people who otherwise never would have touched it.

I think detractors are way too focused on a potential lost Xbox one sale to realize that in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter.

The whole ecosystem-talk is BS if you ask me and doesn't bother me at all. Simple question: if MS was able to swap their Xbox business with Steam, would they go for it? Hell, yeah! They clearly had the wrong vision in 2000 where things are going in the future. Let's look at the present scenario: business PCs all around the world are keeping their business afloat, not the consumer market. When it comes to everyday usage MS has lost the OS war. They are a like a one-hit wonder from the 90s - like a predator being distracted by to much prey nowadays.

You sound like you have attended one of MS's meetings where everything gets sugarcoated in busisness-speak. Once again, I'm speaking for myself here: if they keep up the PC support during next gen, I will be very thankful, because I don't have to choose between 2 consoles anymore. Sometimes less options are better, you know.

 

[Ninja Sharingan]

You don't have to! It's an option. I'm not saying that you should buy and get a system. I don't get money from selling you an Xbox (nor care to). You say others won't because they are uninformed...you know that population is the biggest population of gamers out there. I'm not here to tell anyone that if you want buy a PC to just get an Xbox. Why are you making it seem like I'm saying that. I don't care what people buy. I'm saying that if you had both there are advantages and disadvantages and are generally used differently so if someone had both it's advantageous because of the scenarios in which you can use them.

I totally agree. I will always buy both because I find it easier for my personal reasons, to own a console (kids etc) No one should be trying to sell someone something on here. You should know already what youy want to buy/own. If someone would want a gaming PC and not an xbox that is totally fine lol I don't think people get that some people just want a console. It's obvious from being on this forum. I personally dont understand (if forces one or the other) why anyone would choose anything over a PC but that is me and I respect someone might prefer consoles.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I'm a bit confused by Microsoft's motivation to do this, but I'm excited at the fact that all the PC gamers will be unloading their Xbox versions for cheap on Ebay.

It doesn't work that way though does it? Are they both tied to one XBL account?

You need to buy a separate license to activate it on another system

boy howdy I'm looking forward to 2014. Bayonetta 2 looks tight!

 

[Poster#1]

You reading comprehension is limping, if you understood you wouldn't be laughing. Let me rephrase it for you: most pc gamers who happen to have xbones have little to no reason to keep their xboxes if all xbone exclusives end up on pc. I know I wouldn't.

And what's up with I believe in Phil Spencer shit? Is it some cult or what?

And how many people you think own a capable gaming PC and and Xbox one?

And you seem like an angry fanboy with "concerns".