The South Carolina Primary & Nevada Caucuses |Feb 20, 23, 27| Continuing The Calm

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Dear DNC & RNC: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F Kennedy

r/politics should be renamed at this point. It's too much of a one-sided shithole to have such a broad moniker.
 
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Reddit is ready to ride the Trump Train

Reddit is one person, as is Neogaf.
 
lol now that they called Nevada, it's an "impressive 4 pt win" and "not that close". Before that dead heat and tight race.
 
If the majority of Sanders supporters would happily vote for Trump, then Trump wins the general election with ease. So we'd better hope you aren't right.

He's not. If these primaries are showing us anything it's that there are a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters out there. A lot of different kinds of people too. Like almost as many as Clinton supporters so far seeing as these things are close. Point is, there is no way that many people are extreme. It will be a small portion I have no doubt.
 
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Reddit is ready to ride the Trump Train

Those people really want non-status quo politics no matter the cost.

In a sense, I do not blame them. This isn't to say Trump will bring good change, but people are rightfully sick and tired how we seem to consistently led by the least among us who don't act in a timely matter to trends and problems, and consistently seemed more interested in an oligarchy than a democracy.

Of course, the parody of it all is no matter what motherfucker wins, none of that is changing.
 
Yep, watching CNN right now. Bernie is doing surprising well with Latino voters, meeting or slightly surpassing Hillary. But Hillary still has a commanding lead with non-white voters in general.

Black people are showing UP for Hillary.

MSNBC said those entrance polls showing Bernie doing well with Latinos is wrong.
 
Queen Hillary looking now to start her steamroll through the rest of the primaries until nominations. (besides a few Northeastern and caucus states)

Khaleesi is indeed coming to Westeros.

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If the majority of Sanders supporters would happily vote for Trump, then Trump wins the general election with ease. So we'd better hope you aren't right.

Honestly I was going to vote Trump if Sanders lost till he went The Fuhrer on us.

I DO NOT TRUST Hilary at all.

Hilary has shown in polling to do worse against Trump due to millennial vote and independent vote.

Millennials don't like her.
 
Those people really want non-status quo politics no matter the cost.

In a sense, I do not blame them. This isn't to say Trump will bring good change, but people are rightfully sick and tired how we seem to consistently led by the least among us who don't act in a timely matter to trends and problems, and consistently seemed more interested in an oligarchy than a democracy.

Of course, the parody of it all is no matter what motherfucker wins, none of that is changing.

Bunch of crybabies and sore losers. They'll get over it and see reason. Not all of them, the kinds of people that posts things like that are no doubt unreasonable, but emotions are high right now.
 
I used to think that but now I'm not so sure. I hope you're right but Bernie polls better with independents and against the republican candidates. Many people just don't like her.

Bernie polls better because no one is bothering to attack him that isn't clinton. Republicans have been running the most massive smear campaign possible on clinton from all levels for YEARS now.

The second bernie clinched the nomination the knives would come out and they would be damned sharp. Bernie has not been shy about providing conservatives with a shitload of ammo that would devastate him in the general.
 
not surprised at all, most of them will happily vote for Trump if he gets nominated.

Only confirms what I along suspected, that many, though not all, Bernie supporters are just contrarian, anti-establishment "stick it to the man" losers who don't give a shit about progressive politics.

It's the same in many presidential cycles, whether it was Nader or the (lol) Ron Paul "Revolution" that ends up fizzling out. It doesn't stop the sort voting for someone who "gets them" and will change politics. Evolution will always beat out revolution every time.
 
Honestly I was going to vote Trump if Sanders lost till he went The Fuhrer on us.

I DO NOT TRUST Hilary at all.

Hilary has shown in polling to do worse against Trump due to millennial vote and independent vote.

Millennials don't like her.

I never understood this reasoning. "My guy doesn't win so fuck the lives of millions"? Not very progressive
 
I won't get into it much more except to say she does (much) better with women, minorities, democrats, and Obama supporters and those are HUGE blocks of the people that are going to turn out in the GE.

But hey, Sanders is doing really well on the white males. That is a demographic that will give them the victory over the Republicans.
No results for the crazy party?
 
Dear DNC & RNC: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F Kennedy

r/politics should be renamed at this point. It's too much of a one-sided shithole to have such a broad moniker.

Ahahahaha. At least they'll have the guns Bernie fought hard for them to keep.
 
Reddit is one person, as is Neogaf.

And by Reddit you mean a small bunch of users, represented by this one poster.

Could you stop being so shitty and throw mud at Bernie supporters?


I didn't have the time to screenshot all of the others in this crazy thread.

I'm not throwing mud at Sanders supporters, I'm bringing some attention to the fact that there is undoubtedly a sizable number of people willing to vote Trump if Bernie loses. Or worse, not vote at all.
 
Those people really want non-status quo politics no matter the cost.

In a sense, I do not blame them. This isn't to say Trump will bring good change, but people are rightfully sick and tired how we seem to consistently led by the least among us who don't act in a timely matter to trends and problems, and consistently seemed more interested in an oligarchy than a democracy.

Of course, the parody of it all is no matter what motherfucker wins, none of that is changing.

I'm not convinced Trump will bring any change at all. People think he's "anti-establishment' simply because he's not a career politician, but he's been in the private sector his entire life, and he's in the subset of the sector that benefits the most from Republican pro-corporate ideology. He has given no genuine reason to believe that he would go into the White House and start enacting shit that would undermine his very livelihood. Chances are higher he'd push for further deregulation and other legislation for him to profit off of when he gets out.

Any Bernie supporters who would jump ship to Trump simply due to the establishment "brand" were never serious about politics in the first place, because to do so is to exhibit a fundamental misunderstanding of Bernie's message. Hell, Bernie himself keeps repeating how vital it is to keep a Democrat in the White House this upcoming term regardless of who that Democrat is. If they're so willing to throw away and ignore a key talking point in Bernie's campaign I call into question if they were Bernie supporters in the first place.

What? I said was till he went The Fuhrer.

I will vote for Hillary...then drink a 20 ounce glass of whiskey.

He was The Fuhrer since day 1 when he proposed building a Berlin Wall 2.0 and to bully another country into paying for it, so I don't know what this imaginary cutoff of yours was.
 
Bernie is up around 8% amongst Latino voters in Nevada. The black vote and old people are really for Hillary though.

I really don't see Hillary as more electable in November. She is a very divisive figure and her favorable/unfavorable ratings are firmly on the negative side. Republicans and independents don't like her...heck some democrats don't like her. Independents decide elections and they are for Bernie but in some of these primaries (like Maryland) they can't even vote. It's going to be very interesting what happens in November. If the republicans nominate Trump I would give her a slight edge. If they nominate Cruz she will crush him. If they nominate someone like Rubio or maybe even Kasich I think her goose is cooked.
 
Trump would also lose to Bernie in the GE.

I can't believe some people think Trump would win any battleground states against any Democrat.

Uh no he wouldn't. Trump would eviscerate Sanders in any formal debate setting because he would look strong while Sanders would look like a bumbling grandpa. Further, Trump would appeal to moderate democrats who are afraid of socialism and are protectionist against foreign competition.
 
Bernie is up around 8% amongst Latino voters. The black vote and old people are really for Hillary though.

I really don't see Hillary as more electable in November. She is a very divisive figure and her favorable/unfavorable ratings are firmly on the negative side. Republicans and independents don't like her...heck some democrats don't like her. Independents decide elections and they are for Bernie but in some of these primaries (like Maryland) they can't even vote. It's going to be very interesting what happens in November. If the republicans nominate Trump I would give her a slight edge. If they nominate Cruz she will crush him. If they nominate someone like Rubio or maybe even Kasich I think her goose is cooked.

That 8% figure is from entrance polling and have been demonstrated to be wrong from the actual reported results. Hillary is winning the Latino vote.
 
Trump would also lose to Bernie in the GE.

I can't believe some people think Trump would win any battleground states against any Democrat.

while true, I'm convinced that hillary would do better in the GE vs. Trump (again, ignore current polling because it represents a sanders that has escaped the republican attack machine) and democrats need as wide a margin as humanly possible to take back the house and senate over the next couple of cycles.

simply squeaking out a win won't do it. Democrats need to crush the republicans with women, minorities, etc and bernie's coalition is notably NOT able to do this.
 
Bunch of crybabies and sore losers. They'll get over it and see reason. Not all of them, the kinds of people that posts things like that are no doubt unreasonable, but emotions are high right now.

True, but for some, it's perhaps a combination of egocentricity and being tired of political mediocrity.

They lean to one guy and considering his direct competition a "shill" and "untrustworthy," regardless of the validity of specific claims, and I'm sure some can be made. They then proceed to migrate to the opposition because they feel said direct competition, regardless of specific reasons, beat him in votes. It's an easy transition to justify for those deeply into this, because the opposing side's front runner also represents a "fuck you" to the mediocrity of the current metastasized political body, which people can rightfully say is garbage.

I can empathize with their emotions, but not their reasoning abilities to go from the guy talking about egalitarianism to the literal symbolism of everything wrong with America, American culture, and the human ego.

I'm not convinced Trump will bring any change at all. People think he's "anti-establishment' simply because he's not a career politician, but he's been in the private sector his entire life, and he's in the subset of the sector that benefits the most from Republican pro-corporate ideology. He has given no genuine reason to believe that he would go into the White House and start enacting shit that would undermine his very livelihood. Chances are higher he'd push for further deregulation and another legislation for him to profit off of when he gets out.

Any Bernie supporters who would jump ship to Trump simply due to the establishment "brand" were never serious about politics in the first place, because to do so is to exhibit a fundamental misunderstanding of Bernie's message. Hell, Bernie himself keeps repeating how vital it is to keep a Democrat in the White House this upcoming term regardless of who that Democrat is. If they're so willing to throw away and ignore a key talking point in Bernie's campaign I call into question if they were Bernie supporters in the first place.

I agree, simply because our choices are status quo or to regress. Change is not in the cards, unless you consider the inevitable stagnation this country will continue to have, but that's merely cultivated from the way things have been arranged for a while. No person can fix a sinking ship by oneself, especially in a culture that does not address the water coming in.
 
I'm not convinced Trump will bring any change at all. People think he's "anti-establishment' simply because he's not a career politician, but he's been in the private sector his entire life, and he's in the subset of the sector that benefits the most from Republican pro-corporate ideology. He has given no genuine reason to believe that he would go into the White House and start enacting shit that would undermine his very livelihood. Chances are higher he'd push for further deregulation and another legislation for him to profit off of when he gets out.

Any Bernie supporters who would jump ship to Trump simply due to the establishment "brand" were never serious about politics in the first place, because to do so is to exhibit a fundamental misunderstanding of Bernie's message. Hell, Bernie himself keeps repeating how vital it is to keep a Democrat in the White House this upcoming term regardless of who that Democrat is. If they're so willing to throw away and ignore a key talking point in Bernie's campaign I call into question if they were Bernie supporters in the first place.

Yep, agreed. They were just voting anti-politics and will continue to do so with a Trump vote. Hillary is still great if you are a progressive.
 
Okay now being serious I expected this.
Obviously I support Bernie but I understand why white voters are more likely to come out for him than minorities (though some are more negative than people on here are willing to paint imo) and I don't hold it against them.
Glad Bernie was able to make it this far, I've just been hoping Bernie stays in long enough for my first vote to be for him.
I'm prepared to vote for Hilary anyways.
 
I didn't have the time to screenshot all of the others in this crazy thread.

I'm not throwing mud at Sanders supporters, I'm bringing some attention to the fact that there is undoubtedly a sizable number of people willing to vote Trump if Bernie loses. Or worse, not vote at all.
Have you confirmed that they're genuine Bernie supporters? I ask because the live Mega-thread in the Bernie Sanders subreddit is getting flowded with trolls of all kinds.

I of course see that people like that exist, but it isn't a majority block, not in real life, not on reddit.
 
I think that no better example than this exchange with BLM activists demonstrates why minorities are gravitating toward Clinton.

Her response was surprisingly blunt, candid, and the tough love on display was initially met with criticism. But over time, in contrast to Sanders, her overall point that ideals aren't enough and shit won't get done without a specific plan really resonates with the people who have the most at stake this election.

You know, those who have been the most adversely affected by decades of empty promises from fly-by-night politicians who forget about them the moment they're elected. Not those whose biggest worry is Wall Street speculations or campaign finance reform.

And justified or no, Hillary is the one who comes across as an expert of getting shit done. Just a thought for those confounded by Hillary's minority appeal.
 
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