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The South Carolina Primary & Nevada Caucuses |Feb 20, 23, 27| Continuing The Calm

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Giant Panda said:
He's also criticized the Iran deal among other things. .
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Trump only criticized the deal as a "bad" deal, because he would've gotten a "much better" one.

Read -- He's FOR Diplomacy.

This is much preferred over the other GOP'ers who advocate to "rip apart" the deal on day 1 and slap sanctions back on.
 
Zulithe said:
I agree with your sentiments. I fully believe we'd see the same kind of reactions on the Hillary side if she were the one behind, so I wish people would have a little more compassion for upset Sanders supporters, because we really do ultimately want most of the same things as Hillary supporters.

You take any candidate who is doing extremely well but still trailing the front runner and have them lose, and you will see a portion of their supporters make rash comments like this. It's immature (which goes along with the fact that many Sanders supporters skew younger), yes, but not genuinely vindictive. It shows a lack of foresight but that can be course corrected. It's very early.

Just give them some time to come around after the heat cools off. Most Sanders supporters will be voting on whoever wins come election time as the stakes continue to mount and the shadow of an America under Trump starts to look very real and scary.

I prefer Sanders by a long shot, but Trump isn't getting into the White House under my watch.

I also hope Sanders does not run independent. Until the near 50/50 split of the electorate starts to skew more democrat/independent liberal it's incredibly damaging. I fully support it in lower offices but not for the President's seat. If the Republican candidates finally start becoming more moderate, then maybe then, but not now.
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I agree! I can understand people's reservations about Sanders in the general election, but if he gets the nomination, then you still should do your civic duty and vote for him. The GOP is just too out there this time around to do anything else.

Inuhanyou said:
I want to ask you fairly, and this is a fair question so know i'm not trying to be condescending.

Why do you think Bernie Sanders is running? To support the Democrats, or to support the ideas he thinks best represents the people?

The GOP are already winning the messaging war. The Democrats have moved so far in their direction, the Dems themselves have no real message of their own besides 'yeah well on a few social issues...i guess we're not insane'.

They have already ceded the economic progressive angle, and have actively fought to dispel any possibility of there being a problem in that area to begin with, along with any notion of a crisis of corruption in the political system destroying democracy(one of the previous key economic messages they held against the GOP when Citizen's United was passed).

This needs to be addressed and its a simple fact; The Democratic party winning in 2016 if it is not Bernie Sanders, is not only never going to change that, but they are never going to acknowledge that again, because that influence is too great.

And so then the question for the citizen and those who still want to continue the fight only becomes, where does the challenge come from? Does it come from inside the party again, or does it come from beyond the party?
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As other have said repeatedly, it comes from those who believe in Sanders' message actually getting out there and voting in local and state elections. Do that and it becomes far, far, far more possible to actually pass Sanders' policies on a national level.
 
Elfforkusu said:
Trump rails on the Iraq war, from that you could conclude that he'd take a more isolationist stance for foreign policy. Not to the extent of Bernie (which is what I want), but very possibly less hawkish than Hillary. It's not clear where he actually stands on this, since the primary has been such a circus and he hasn't really had to take firm stances.

As for the rest of the GOP, yes, they are clowns.
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He also talks about "bombing the shit out of ISIS" and any country housing them, and taking their oil. He's openly mocked Obama for not bombing oil trucks for fear of collateral damage. And he's obviously got no love lost for brown-skinned people in general.

I don't see how any serious person could say any major Democrat is anywhere near that.
 
RustyNails said:
Democratic party has a failsafe system of holding back extremists and populists like Trump (Bernie) for very, very good reasons: McGovern and Mondale. Republican party doesn't. It's why their caucuses are more...democratic and more direct democracy. Republican party will need to go through what the Democratic party did in '68 and '84 and once they do they will also have failsafe system in place.
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I wouldn't call it a true failsafe, actually using superdelegates in that manner to outright overturn a popular nominees nomination would be a poison pill that would damage the party for decades to come.

Also yes, it is really ironic how the Republican process is so much more transparent and democratic than the Democrat's system.
 
I wonder how much money exchanged hands to convince him to do this tonight, haha.

He is completely convinced he doesn't have a shot in Florida, and is saving himself that embarrassment. I don't blame him.

I'm going to miss Trump beating him up, even though I have a huge soft spot for him, haha.
 
balladofwindfishes said:
A presidential run is a lot more expensive. With primaries, it's all focused over time, over various states. With the presidential election it's a half year gauntlet across a dozen states at the same time. The money will run out eventually.

And the GOP isn't going to let him not take donor money.
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What was the total spent in 2012, compared to Trump's net worth?
 
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