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The South Carolina Primary & Nevada Caucuses |Feb 20, 23, 27| Continuing The Calm

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eyeball_kid said:
Say what. You could say the same thing about Obama. He's disappointed many of the progressives that voted for him (me included). That kind of attitude is how we've gotten successively more centrist Democratic candidates, because the Democratic establishment knows the progressives will just support the "electable" one.
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There seems to be this misunderstanding about the nature of the US President by many people, that he has some sort of absolutist monarchical powers to enact whatever law or policy he likes, it doesn't work like that obviously. Obama has had to contend with a Republican controlled Congress for much of his presidency and has had to negotiate and compromise on a lot of his agenda. Getting some of your policies enacted is still clearly better than getting none enacted at all.

Presidential elections tend to get the most focus by the media and electorate but it's just as important, if not more so to get out and vote in Congressit elections and seek to get your local Dem elected to Congress.
 
That's why the Republicans are so against government. If they think everybody is as incompetent as they are at running caucuses, then of course you wouldn't want more government.
 
Cerium said:
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Dictator levels of popularity, doesn't seem too bad actually.
 
From MSNBC:

6% of caucus-goers under 30
80% of caucus-goers over 45

I'm not sure how that compares to the Democrat caucus, but it seems to bode well for the Democrat's future.
 
adam387 said:
If it's the GOP that has voter fraud, I will laugh and laugh and laugh.
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It's already been shown time and again that the only people committing voter fraud are Republicans trying to prove it exists. Either they attempt to vote multiple times and the fraud is found (admittedly this doesn't happen often but the only recorded voter fraud ever, which is honestly barely anything, it's literally like 50 votes ever across millions, is from Republicans) or they attempt to claim some legit votes of Democrats are fraud without any proof whatsoever. I've seen old white women at the various polling places I've been to throughout all the moving around in my life say: "that voter who just left was a fraud vote, right?" "of course, Cindy, we'll make sure to subtract a few necessary votes from the Demoncrats at the end" and it would be always be black couple that had just left. I've seen this so many damn times now. It's really pissing me off.

In short: Voter fraud is a myth created by Republicans so they could enact voter id laws that conveniently work against racial minorities and others who often vote Democrat. In part because of how gerrymandering works, in part because of just how much they require of you to have proof of residence, and also in part because the places to get ids are barely open. Also the polling stations often close early too so people can't get there and busing schedules often either don't stop near the chosen polling place or the voting is done on a day that makes it extra hard for those without transportation to be able to vote. The laws are literally stacked against Democrats. Particularly the poor and african-americans. Voter ID Laws plain as day purpose is to obstruct the democratic process and prevent Democrats from voting.
 
Sobriquet said:
Wouldn't it be better to have younger folks engaged in the process, though?
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The numbers there and of the past indicate that the hip young fresh crowd aren't down with the GOP. It's not surprising that the Republican caucus has an incredibly low turnout of young voters. That's the general trend. Republicans rely on votes from generations that are starting to die out. Their ideals, particularly on social issues, aren't in line with the current age. That's not even getting into their disastrous economic policies that have also ruined this country for decades now.
 
Oriel said:
There seems to be this misunderstanding about the nature of the US President by many people, that he has some sort of absolutist monarchical powers to enact whatever law or policy he likes, it doesn't work like that obviously. Obama has had to contend with a Republican controlled Congress for much of his presidency and has had to negotiate and compromise on a lot of his agenda. Getting some of your policies enacted is still clearly better than getting none enacted at all.
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Well, I understand the political process pretty well (I was even a state delegate for the Democrats once upon a time), and I'm aware of the limitations of the President's power, so I don't say that Obama disappointed progressives/me based on his inability to inact legislation. I am disappointed (and sometimes shocked) for some of his policy decisions and for the things he chose not to fight for.
 
What's interesting is that Vegas is only 55% of the Republican caucus vote, while it's 75% of the Democratic turnout. Shows how rural Republicans tend to be.
 
Sobriquet said:
Really old first-time voters, apparently.
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The exit poll in New Hampshire had Democrats with 19% of voters aged 18-29, or 46900 voters, and Republicans was 15%, or 42618 voters. It isn't as dramatic as the entrance polls in Nevada (and entrance polls are usually very poor).
 
King Trump is going to win by a hella lot of votes. Then my queen will slay him on national television where we can all watch his bloated, blond corpse laid out for all to see.

Come on Trump. You can do it brah.
 
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