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[joe2187]

The guy is literally the personification of a Saturday morning cartoon villain.

It baffles me that he's still relevant in the republican nomination to the point where he's leading most every state.

The only thing i can take away from this whole trump debacle is that he's playing america for a fool, just playing the media attention whore by saying the most asinine shit, getting the exposure he wants and profiting from the masses of his followers.

I dont even know how he can still be in the race at this point if even the republican party despises him.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Republican nomination? Yes.

General election? No.

 

[orava]

IF he does, the next election will be very interesting.

 

[Rembrandt]

Republican nomination? Yes.

General election? Maybe.

Was a definite no earlier but idk now.

 

[Mohonky]

There are people who believe the Earth is flat.....so yes, I believe people would be stupid enough to vote Trump.

 

[jbug617]

man I don't know. Not sure how Hillary or Bernie would do in a general election either.

 

[Good Job Bob]

I think the time to casually write off Trump has come to a pass.

 

[GavinGT]

I think he has a better chance of winning than Romney did in 2012.

 

[reckless]

The nomination he is going to win.

In the GE most likely not, but he definitely has a chance.

 

[Imperial Bishop]

If he loses, then it's lights out, America.

 

[minor effort]

Not a significant chance, but it's no reason for the Democrats to get cocky either.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Yes, and people need to stop downplaying how hate-filled/ignorant/malevolent the voting public can be.

Cruz and Rubio are inherently more dangerous, but a vacillating puppet who would ultimately be a vessel for the baser GOP interests is just as bad.

 

[bobeth]

Looking at it from the outside (Canada), I must say I just don't know what to think anymore..

 

[johnsmith]

He could win if there's a massive economic collapse in the next 8 months, and/or a major (talking hundreds dead) terrorist attack. But other than that, no.

 

[BigDug13]

Will the next SCOTUS Nomination cause more Republican voters to come out in droves or Democrats?

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Sure he has a chance. Lots of closet supporters out there.

 

[Striek]

The guy is literally the personification of a Saturday morning cartoon villain.

Rhetoric like this illustrates and solidifies the divide people have in modern politics, hardens stances, trivializes meaningful discussion and is exactly why Trump has a very real chance of winning. People are fucking sick of this shit.

 

[gutter_trash]

I placed my bets before Iowa:

$100 on Trump to win the GOP nomination
$100 on Hillary to win it ALL

so far, I'm looking good to win both bets

 

[tearsintherain]

All it would take is for a terrorist attack a few weeks before the election and Trump will be voted in. When people are scared they vote for the person who seems crazier than the people they are afraid of, not for the one who preaches tolerance and understanding.

Thats the only realistic scenario he is elected, the others would be kinda crazy like a huge scandal enveloping the Clintons or the stock market suddenly crashes or oil shoots up to $200/barrel, none of which are likely.

Still it will be a lot closer than people here think. Probably something like 51% to 49%, although probably the electoral college will be wider apart.

 

[border]

I don't know. I certainly think he has a chance.

Has he said a lot of awful things? Yes. Is he going to say more awful things? Probably not. Once he has the Republican nomination firmly locked up, he can shift to being someone that is much more moderate and centrist, and that may appeal to independents who are tired of establishment candidates. You can already see him shifting now, with the way he talked about George W. Bush and the Iraq war in one of the more recent debates.

I suppose it depends on how much his stance on immigration will affect his standing with Hispanic and Muslim-sympathizing voters. I think it will be difficult for him to backpedal on all that "Build a wall" bullshit. He's said a few misogynistic things, but I definitely don't think that takes all female voters off the table. Misogyny has a strange appeal for some women with more conservative views.

 

[MattKeil]

Was a definite no earlier but idk now.

The last winning Democrat to get the majority of the white vote was Lyndon Johnson. You need more than racist white people to win the White House, and that's all Trump has.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

I'd like to say he'll easily be defeated in the general but I don't trust the average American voter

 

[davepoobond]

people keep saying things will ruin his chances and it never comes to pass. i dont see how "he wont win the general election" won't be another in the slew of predicted downfalls for Trump.

there has to be something that actively stops him.

 

[ChosenPredator]

im pretty sure he could win 50/50 anyone can win it between him and hillary, i feel like bernie non-establishment/wallstreet thing is prepping hillary well for trump.

(heck he might even get bernie voters) lol

 

[Dai101]

Dubya got elected. Twice.

'Nuff said.

 

[Qblivion]

My family is super conservative, but don't care for trump, yet they see democrats as worse. I can easily see them vote for him.

 

[Mighty Chin]

No Chance. Enough to scare Dems into voting though. In overwhelming numbers I expect.

 

[Ecotic]

Trump's rising popularity among Republicans has come at the expense of moderates, Democrats, and independents. He's insulted every minority group you need to win and I expect him to drive turnout among his voters in States that don't matter like the deep south. So no, I don't believe he can win unless he pulls one of the best 180 pivots towards the general election that American history has ever seen.

 

[RoKKeR]

GOP nomination, absolutely.

GE? I'm becoming increasingly nervous, but ultimately I believe cooler heads in the nation will prevail.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Yes, and people need to stop downplaying how hate-filled/ignorant/malevolent the voting public can be.

Have to go with this. I mean how is this very topic not a repeat of the, "Trump will quit after 2 months" bull we got when he was first announced? The fact that he's even popular at all after this long shows he's got a considerable and frightening amount of support.

 

[reelbigtink]

This exact thread pops up each week and like clockwork Trump's numbers go up and his competitors drop out of the race. At this point I believe there is a very real chance he becomes the next US President.

I'm down here in Alabama and people are insanely in love with the guy. Pretty scary to witness.

 

[B-Dubs]

He's gonna win me a shit ton of money, that's for damn sure!

 

[Dishwalla]

I still want to know what he'd actually do as president. Besides building some bullshit wall along the border, because that's a fucking pipe dream.

 

[kess]

My family is super conservative, but don't care for trump, yet they see democrats as worse. I can easily see them vote for him.

I guess we're seeing the logical end point of this rhetoric

 

[CrazyDude]

I don't know. I certainly think he has a chance.

Has he said a lot of awful things? Yes. Is he going to say more awful things? Probably not. Once he has the Republican nomination firmly locked up, he can shift to being someone that is much more moderate and centrist, and that may appeal to independents who are tired of establishment candidates. You can already see him shifting now, with the way he talked about George W. Bush and the Iraq war in one of the more recent debates.

I suppose it depends on how much his stance on immigration will affect his standing with Hispanic and Muslim-sympathizing voters. I think it will be difficult for him to backpedal on all that "Build a wall" bullshit. He's said a few misogynistic things, but I definitely don't think that takes all female voters off the table. Misogyny has a strange appeal for some women with more conservative views.

Backpedaling would only hurt him. The crazies will be angry at him for lying to them and the establishment won't trust him.

This exact thread pops up each week and like clockwork Trump's numbers go up and his competitors drop out of the race. At this point I believe there is a very real chance he becomes the next US President.

I'm down here in Alabama and people are insanely in love with the guy. Pretty scary to witness.

Alabama doesn't matter in the GE, they are always going to be red.

 

[Velcro Fly]

He will get the nomination for sure

But the general election? The angry white vote isn't going to carry him to anything other than the stalwart red states.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Yes. Many Americans share his viewpoints.

 

[params7]

I believe he gets the Presidency if he manages the nomination. The numbers don't support it, but Trump's campaign laugh at numbers and guru predictions.

 

[CrazyDude]

People are overestimating Trump because he is doing well in the primaries, but I don't think he has a chance in hell. I do hope that this sense of doom and gloom continues, it will only benefit democrats by scaring them to go out and vote.

 

[border]

people keep saying things will ruin his chances and it never comes to pass.

Nothing he's said will ruin his chances in a Republican primary, as they have a pretty hateful and short-sighted base that loves his style of bullshit. But for a general election, he has certainly alienated a lot of important groups. The Hispanic vote was a huge factor in getting Bush elected, and I don't think most Hispanic people will forget his comments about how so many Mexican immigrants were murderers and rapists.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Dubya got elected. Twice.

'Nuff said.

To be fair the people gave Al Gore more votes, its the electorial college that gave it to Bush. As for Bush's 2nd term, yeah I got nothing.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

General Election?

Not a prayer. There isn't a chance in whatever circle of hell you wanna pick that the elevator stops on a floor where Donald Trump takes the general.

That's not to say the general will be a cakewalk. That's not to say the possiblity something like 40% of the general populace will actually vote for him isn't extremely disconcerting and disturbing and honestly kind of nauseating.

But in order to honestly entertain the notion that Trump could defeat either Sanders or Clinton, you'd have to buy into the exact same sense of despair and helplessness that Trump is exploiting, just from a different angle. But it's the same despair and helplessness. It values resigned futility over anything else. He's harnessing that emotion to whip up angry white people who just want to hear someone tell them they'll make it all better and tuck a dirty blanket under their fucking fuzzy chins.

But liberals/democrats are tapping into that emotion as a means to indulge a poisoned cynicism that congratulates them for being a voice of sanity in an insane world, without actually doing anything to prevent the dystopia that lets them feel (barely) unique in their ability to recognize bullshit and point at it.

People who think Trump's actually going to win are people who probably have no plans on doing anything about it when given the chance, especially when "Doing something about it" entails the bare minimum of showing up and checking the box that isn't Trump in the general.

He doesn't have minorities, he doesn't have women, and he doesn't even have a majority of the white men in the country, because even the diet-racist ones likely understand that from a financial standpoint he's going to fuck them over even harder than Sanders might, and they won't even have a half-ass healthcare plan to show for it.

Nah. He's not going to win the general. I think America is a fidgety, nervous, growling, snapping animal way too often, but it's not fucking suicidal.

 

[Tagyhag]

If Hillary and Bernie die, and we have Muslim terrorist attacks + major economic depression then yes I can see it.

To be fair the people gave Al Gore more votes, its the electorial college that gave it to Bush. As for Bush's 2nd term, yeah I got nothing.

I'm still so salty about that.

We're supposed to be a democracy, and the majority of people could vote for someone, and not get what they want.

HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

 

[Crimson_Fate]

The last election was not a landslide for Obama. this year there is record turnout in every Republican primary and a 30% downturn in Democratic turnout..


A GOP victory in November is all but a lock, Trump still stands a chance of not getting a the nomination but if he gets it he will be president.

 

[reelbigtink]

Alabama doesn't matter in the GE, they are always going to be red.

I understand that but conservatives show up in droves to vote nationwide and liberals are being unnecessarily split on Bernie and Hillary. It's a hard sell, getting the Bernie folks (whom I support) to pick up the torch for Hillary for whatever reason. I'm definitely doing it, even though, like you said, my vote doesn't really count.

 

[border]

Backpedaling would only hurt him. The crazies will be angry at him for lying to them and the establishment won't trust him.

It's entirely possible that "the crazies" may forgive him for backpedaling in hopes that he's just doing it to get a broad base.

Did you happen to hear the This American Life story that profiled a teenaged gay, black Trump supporter? His entire support of Trump was based on the idea that he probably might support gay marriage. In a recent debate Trump stated in relatively vague terms that he would probably seek to appoint Supreme Court Justices that might overturn the gay marriage ruling. The Trump fan just shrugged it off by concluding that he had to say that to get votes, but would really stay in favor of gay marriage if elected.

There's limitless self-delusion and optimism when it comes to both Sanders and Trump.

 

[Korigama]

The Republican nomination? Yeah.

The general election? If one's willing to ignore the fact that winning without the women and minority vote is mathematically impossible, and honestly believes that those groups would actually sit the election out for whatever reason, then perhaps such a person would have the delusion that he could.

 

[linkandzelda]

Yes he does. I'd say about 20% at this point. If he gets the nomination then 30%.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

General Election?

Not a prayer. There isn't a chance in whatever circle of hell you wanna pick that the elevator stops on a floor where Donald Trump takes the general.

That's not to say the general will be a cakewalk. That's not to say the possiblity something like 40% of the general populace will actually vote for him isn't extremely disconcerting and disturbing and honestly kind of nauseating.

But in order to honestly entertain the notion that Trump could defeat either Sanders or Clinton, you'd have to buy into the exact same sense of despair and helplessness that Trump is exploiting, just from a different angle. But it's the same despair and helplessness. It values resigned futility over anything else. He's harnessing that emotion to whip up angry white people who just want to hear someone tell them they'll make it all better and tuck a dirty blanket under their fucking fuzzy chins.

But liberals/democrats are tapping into that emotion as a means to indulge a poisoned cynicism that congratulates them for being a voice of sanity in an insane world, without actually doing anything to prevent the dystopia that lets them feel (barely) unique in their ability to recognize bullshit and point at it.

People who think Trump's actually going to win are people who probably have no plans on doing anything about it when given the chance, especially when "Doing something about it" entails the bare minimum of showing up and checking the box that isn't Trump in the general.

He doesn't have minorities, he doesn't have women, and he doesn't even have a majority of the white men in the country, because even the diet-racist ones likely understand that from a financial standpoint he's going to fuck them over even harder than Sanders might, and they won't even have a half-ass healthcare plan to show for it.

Nah. He's not going to win the general. I think America is a fidgety, nervous, growling, snapping animal way too often, but it's not fucking suicidal.

You have a lot more faith in the country than it's earned.

 

[SlimySnake]

The last winning Democrat to get the majority of the white vote was Lyndon Johnson. You need more than racist white people to win the White House, and that's all Trump has.

I dont know about that. there are quite a few regular folks who like the way he talks. not all of his supporters are racist.

and thats the most dangerous thing about this all. if he can convince regular folks to vote for him, things could get very difficult for hilary especially if the emails dont go away.