To the people asking how widespread sugar daddies are now. I'm sure it happens enough for it to be thing, but I would say more so now there are probably more camgirls that use that avenue to get money to help pay bills, tuition, etc. Rather than trying to find one wealthy man to do that stuff for them.
How do you feel about sugar daddies and college students?
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i saw that same movie a few weeks ago. it was so cheesy.
Don't care. Saw one with two women (college age) who dressed to impressed at a DJ Krush concert this week. Guy looked like little Ringo Starr. He was dancing funny and got some other girl to join the other two for a while.
Edit: I should note that it wouldn't be a tuition related thing in this country. Just a straight up "it's nice to have lots of cash for spending some time with a dude" process.
Edit: I should note that it wouldn't be a tuition related thing in this country. Just a straight up "it's nice to have lots of cash for spending some time with a dude" process.
On one hand, I generally find myself agreeing with the feminist school of thought that supports safe, legal, consensual sex work and prostitution.
On the other, the power dynamic can be pretty scary and the fact that it's viewed as necessary says some very bad things about the extreme expense of higher education.
On the other, the power dynamic can be pretty scary and the fact that it's viewed as necessary says some very bad things about the extreme expense of higher education.
PdotMichael
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If women really need to do that to pay for bills and tuition fees then is it pretty fucked up. If it about to get some extra pocket money and stuff like that then that's not my business.
Personally I just don't know how prostitution isn't legal. Sure you'd have to iron out the details but at the basic nature of it you're paying someone to provide you a service.
I do agree with the sugar daddy situation that chances of manipulation/abuse is definitely a concern.
Well those girls typically get paid a lot for their companionship, so if they're doing it consensually and willingly then I have no problem with it.
If a guy makes enough money to spend hundreds of dollars to spend time with a girl then so be it, lol. If I were lonely and rich I'd probably do the same thing.
Mutual benefits, really.
If a guy makes enough money to spend hundreds of dollars to spend time with a girl then so be it, lol. If I were lonely and rich I'd probably do the same thing.
Mutual benefits, really.
Warm Machine
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I would argue that the woman has the power in the relationship as she is accepting of the money and the terms of the relationship to fulfill someone else's desire. If the money wasn't there she wouldn't bother. A man with money and no benefiary is a pretty sad lonely person.
In so far as the cost of education making such arrangements possible, yeah that is the core problem.
Captainbojanglesiii
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It doesn't affect me so I don't care. It just makes me sad that people have to do that to cover their tuition.
thestopsign
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I feel like buying nice dinners and maybe the random nice gift is fine. I wouldn't consider paying college tuition for a girl or anything of the sort (like I would be fine with paying for most of the dating portion of a relationship). That's just me personally though, I don't judge others for doing it though.
You have a point, but I was thinking more about the difference in social standing and the stuff that could come along with that. Someone with money and power possibly feeling entitled to the body of someone from a less privileged background, maybe using that power and getting coercive if things don't go his way.
Not that those same problems don't exist in other relationships, but it seems like this has the potential to exacerbate them.
AcademicSaucer
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Its sad that a "first world" country has normalized this practice to the point that there are big websites for this kind of thing.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4329098/
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I see this the same way I view prostitution, as long as all parties consent. I don't care. Have fun. If you strip, are a prostitute to pay bills who are you harming? If you pay for sex-workers and treat them with decency I don't care
TAJ
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Camming is a good deal as long as you don't care if everyone knows.
Eh, your typical employee is also "accepting of the money and the terms of the relationship to fulfill someone else's desire," but they usually don't have more power than their employer, because the reality is, typically, the employee needs the money, more than the employer needs them. So, I don't think that necessarily means the women (or men) exchanging their time are the ones with the power, here.
Also, I doubt this is all that common.
SolidusDave
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I think I have only a problem with some of these girls/women pretending that this isn't prostitution. Same for gold diggers I guess.
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Well, to be fair, of the women who do this there are probably quite a few who never actually have sex with their sugar daddies (just allude that they will someday). I mean, they can't actually make them (unless they literally rape them), because you can't enforce an illegal contract and an explicit agreement for sex in exchange for money is illegal.
Hmm, OK, despite my prior comment, I guess this suggests the sugar "babies" have a good amount of power here. Although they still have to worry about the actual physical dangers involved with being alone with a stranger who expects sex.
Captain Chaos
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Its prostitution.
But its their own lives, so let them get on with it.
But its their own lives, so let them get on with it.
Same way I feel about prostitution.
Why should I care what two consenting adults choose to do concerning their body?
I somehow doubt the majority of girls who do it are doing it only to cover tuition expenses.
Why should I care what two consenting adults choose to do concerning their body?
I somehow doubt the majority of girls who do it are doing it only to cover tuition expenses.
John Kowalski
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Don't know enough to have an opinion frankly. I'm more than ok with sex as service, but that's a meaningless sentiment for the most part. What i'm concerned about is the well being of the women, like how frequently they are subject to sexual/physical violence because of their position, what their financial independence is like (if it is to be a transitory state, how much agency do they have in beginning/terminating the relationship), you know all that jazz.
Generally being a webcam model seems like a safer option tbh.
Generally being a webcam model seems like a safer option tbh.
You could really just go on grindr and try to bum a guy to pay you something for "Something"
Seventy_X_Seven
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Just to play devil's advocate, there is a very really possibility it's not harmless. The girl may not actually want to be forced to have sex with some dude, but feels pressured to because the rising costs of tuition and not being lucky enough to be born into a well off family.
Not really many rich guys in my radius, I'd have to go over to Manhattan.
I got that student loan debt, it ain't gonna pay itself, no job, and I'm a man of expensive taste. Gotta make that cash somehow, it's not below me to do blow and have sex with old guys to get it. I'm not a religious person so I don't view sex as some sort of holy thing you can only do once you fill out some paperwork.
whatever pays the bills
blame space
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Big fan of both categories here
Little projection towards STEM here don't you think?
God Dayumm
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There sugar daddies in Europe and even more European women looking for one. Money can buy much more than college.
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What bank executives should do is offer annulation of credit card debt in exchange of a blow job.
Who are we to judge.
Heck car dealerships should do the same.
Who are we to judge.
Heck car dealerships should do the same.
These girls aren't victims. Nobody forced them to go to that university. And if you work your ass off you can put yourself through school. That's what I did. (a full-time job and a part-time job whilst going to school full-time)
Ban Puncher
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Enjo kosai?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I'd fuck a granny if it means she pays off my credit card debt. Y'all be judging my fantasies too hard!
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I don't believe I said they were forced or victims. Not sure what your intent is by quoting me if your post doesn't relate to mine.
I want to be a sugar daddy for a bratty girl when I'm older if I'm ever rich (like, I'll pay her to insult me, yell at me after I buy her stuff, then she decides what we do sexually and dominates me).
Or I wish I had a sugar mommy now. But maybe without the money. So basically I wish I could date an older lonely woman who I called sugar mommy.
And for real I do worry about the well-being of the young women involved. The reason this is normalized is because of the high college tuition. I read a blog post from a sex worker on Tumblr who explained sex work as a job with high risk/reward, and this is apparently especially true for Sugar Daddy work because of the risk you're exposing yourself from the guy. That being said as long as no one is harmed then I don't think there's an issue with it inherently (which is why I'd like it as I said above >_>).
Or I wish I had a sugar mommy now. But maybe without the money. So basically I wish I could date an older lonely woman who I called sugar mommy.
And for real I do worry about the well-being of the young women involved. The reason this is normalized is because of the high college tuition. I read a blog post from a sex worker on Tumblr who explained sex work as a job with high risk/reward, and this is apparently especially true for Sugar Daddy work because of the risk you're exposing yourself from the guy. That being said as long as no one is harmed then I don't think there's an issue with it inherently (which is why I'd like it as I said above >_>).
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