How do you feel about sugar daddies and college students?

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I think its pretty distasteful, but I guess it depends on the individual and whether they find it demeaning or not.
When it comes to college tuition it's obviously a choice someone is actively making, but when people are selling their bodies just to survive then it gets pretty close to rape.
 
I don't like it.

But I don't like it in the sense that our system is so fked that people willing to spend time on higher education have to resort to such measures to pay their tuition.
 
Transactions between consenting adults are their business. That being said, I wouldn't personally be involved in a serious relationship with a woman who had a history of prostitution, which is what this arrangement is. It's outside of my comfort zone.
 
As long as it's between consenting adults it's fine in theory. But it seems like there's a lot of potential for abuse (going either way really).

Ether_Snake said:
What bank executives should do is offer annulation of credit card debt in exchange of a blow job.

Who are we to judge.

Heck car dealerships should do the same.
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But those debts aren't actually owed to the bank executives, they are owed to the shareholders. This would essentially be bank execs getting blowjobs at the shareholders expense.
 
sorta sucks. in the old days college students would fuck older guys because they wanted to, not because they had loans or wanted to buy Tbone steaks at the Costco instead of eating in the cafeteria.

but I guess people today need some kind of capitalistic frame to be the structure behind everything they "choose" to do these days... :\
 
MogCakes said:
I don't believe I said they were forced or victims. Not sure what your intent is by quoting me if your post doesn't relate to mine.
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"You do what you need to do to survive" and "having to resort to things like this to put yourself through college."

Going to college isn't necessary for "survival" and, if these girls have any redeeming qualities apart from their looks, then they have plenty of other options to pay their expenses.

But whatever. People are free to do what they want with their bodies/money/dignity.
 
Mr.Mike said:
As long as it's between consenting adults it's fine in theory. But it seems like there's a lot of potential for abuse (going either way really).



But those debts aren't actually owed to the bank executives, they are owed to the shareholders. This would essentially be bank execs getting blowjobs at the shareholders expense.
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Not if every shareholder gets a BJ...
 
I've never met anyone nor have I heard of second hand accounts from friends of it occurring. I've only ever read about it online, and the last time I heard about it was years ago from this very forum.
 
Its the system who pushes them this many, many girls would not do it if there was an easier choice, but it is what it is , blame the system for not offering a fucking education at reasonable prices/"free"
 
Fitts said:
"You do what you need to do to survive" and "having to resort to things like this to put yourself through college."

Going to college isn't necessary for "survival" and, if these girls have any redeeming qualities apart from their looks, then they have plenty of other options to pay their expenses.
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I think you're reading way more into my comment than intended. I wasn't trying to imply any such ideas about college being necessary or sugar daddies being the only option. What the hell?
 
Fitts said:
These girls aren't victims. Nobody forced them to go to that university. And if you work your ass off you can put yourself through school. That's what I did. (a full-time job and a part-time job whilst going to school full-time)
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Having to work 40+ hours a week just to put yourself through school as a full-time student is, more than anything, indicative of how incredibly fucked up our higher education system is. People working towards difficult degrees (engineering, etc) end up dropping out because they were being killed with stress from having to manage a schedule that shouldn't be expected of anyone much less someone trying to learn something like engineering. Other countries have figured this shit out and it's shameful that the US hasn't.

Congrats on being able to do it yourself, though. Some people can. Many people can't, and they shouldn't be deprived of a good education just because they couldn't simultaneously work a full-time (let that term sink in) job and go to school.

Fitts said:
Going to college isn't necessary for "survival" and, if these girls have any redeeming qualities apart from their looks, then they have plenty of other options to pay their expenses.
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Going to college is pretty much a "necessity" for most people if they want to get ahead, and to be honest, if some girl was presented with the options of either having to work 40+ hours a week while going to school full time and just taking money from some guy, I wouldn't blame her one bit for choosing the latter. I know I would. It's pretty much a scholarship for being cute and I've seen scholarships for things dumber than that.


Also, it should be mentioned that not all sugardaddy relationships involve sex. A lot in fact do not.
 
Might as well ask how you feel about relationships.

People enter relationships for myriad reasons. Anyone who is bothered by this is naive.
 
I find it to be in rare circumstances. You have to realize how rare it is to find a healthy sugar daddy who isn't your average joe looking for a prostitute on backpage or craigslist.

You don't find a lot of girls who do this and it's probably even harder to meet someone and bring up the conversation. I gave a girl money in college, but she didn't speak to me and it was like a charity thing where I felt bad for her. It was pretty pathetic and it made my life a living hell. I got hammered one night and the next day went to talk to a recruiter for the Army. I wanted to block those memories from existing. It makes you feel invisible as a man and spiritless.

Granted I don't look for things like this because I want to have a girlfriend someday and focus on building that relationship. I have never come across a typical female student who has talked about this with me. It might happen in other parts of the world, but I for one think it's a rare circumstance.

Most guys who are of the same age as other college girls are probably broke. They don't see the guys who have money, but all in all it's still rather questionable if downright illegal.
 
Woody Allen's daughter married her's.

/s

I mean, it's how this world works that makes it a benefit for both parties. It's something that isn't even immoral, just something you'd never want for your daughter.

On the flip side, I wouldn't hate a sugar momma
 
If I found out my hypothetical daughter was being someone's sugar baby to pay her tuition and bills, I'd feel like I've failed as a parent.
 
It's a way of life for some. Not everyone has rich parents or want to get themselves into debt that they'd spend the rest of their life's paying for. I never had a problem with those who do as long as they are safe.
 
MogCakes said:
If I found out my hypothetical daughter was being someone's sugar baby to pay her tuition and bills, I'd feel like I've failed as a parent.
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There was a film called The Babysitters with John Leguizamo that touched upon this. It's not the greatest film, so I don't know if I'd sit down and watch it.
 
Yeah I have a daughter and I have mixed feelings about this concept. It's really a lot more nuanced, there's no intelligent way to sum it up nor can I consider all the potential variables.

It really demonstrates how far society has yet to go. Student debt, the way people perceive sexuality and our relationships. We're not that far off from fraternal polyandry & arranged marriages, really.
 
demon said:
Having to work 40+ hours a week just to put yourself through school as a full-time student is, more than anything, indicative of how incredibly fucked up our higher education system is. People working towards difficult degrees (engineering, etc) end up dropping out because they were being killed with stress from having to manage a schedule that shouldn't be expected of anyone much less someone trying to learn something like engineering. Other countries have figured this shit out and it's shameful that the US hasn't.

Congrats on being able to do it yourself, though. Some people can. Many people can't, and they shouldn't be deprived of a good education just because they couldn't simultaneously work a full-time (let that term sink in) job and go to school.


Going to college is pretty much a "necessity" for most people if they want to get ahead, and to be honest, if some girl was presented with the options of either having to work 40+ hours a week while going to school full time and just taking money from some guy, I wouldn't blame her one bit for choosing the latter. I know I would. It's pretty much a scholarship for being cute and I've seen scholarships for things dumber than that.


Also, it should be mentioned that not all sugardaddy relationships involve sex. A lot in fact do not.
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Fair enough. I'm certainly not defending the current state of higher education. It's a joke, quite frankly, both in terms of cost and quality.

I wouldn't call a college education "necessity" and I do believe that stems from a lot of cultural brainwashing/marketing. Personally, I believe that learning a trade is functionally more valuable than most degrees. But most are categorized as being within the services industry in which there's a stigma for some reason. At any rate, I've certainly learned more outside of a classroom than I ever have in one and life experience has never told me "that's not a part of the curriculum" when persuing knowledge.

That bit about dumb scholarships is hilarious and painfully true.
 
ClosingADoor said:
Because it's the biggest expense for most people in their 20s and in some countries too expensive to be decently affordable for all without getting into debt.
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Well yeah but what about that would make people carry a different opinion of the subject. I suspect there are many other situations one can find oneself in that carry high financial stress, but there seems to be some moral imperative at play when specifying education as though such a morally defensible end would lessen the implied delinquency of having a sugar daddy. Which... might be the case i guess.
 
I'd be happy to sponsor a student someday after my future wife passes away. If she's into it and I'm lonely after my kids move away, no harm done.
 
I feel sad that people have to resort to this to pay for their education, as it might give people an unfair advantage in the relationship adding potential to abuse the weaker party. But I'm not going to judge anyone doing it.
 
A friend of a friend has a sugar daddy paying for some of her living expenses

... in Hong Kong, crazy expensive city, so I'm not TOO surprised.
 
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English lit majors?
 
My housemate does it, though it's more to fund her drug habits than for academic reasons. I find the whole thing pretty deplorable to be honest.
 
prostitution should be legal that is my opinion

edit: still if someone has to sell their body just to afford an education is a sad reflection of the fucked up society we live in
 
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