Microsoft announces Xbox Live cross-network (PSN and other networks) play

Incredibly good news for gamers, now if only Sony agreed to participate we would be able to play with any friend.

Congrats to MS
 
Garrett Hawke said:
Cross platform play with xbox :) Sony obviously had it first with their own platforms and PC and we're yet to see if they'll be okay with it on xbox. Not accusing them of anything and tbh they were the ones that backed it in the first place so good on them.
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thats wrong.

dreamcast had this before in the 90s.
 
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The prophecy has been fulfilled
 
I honestly wonder if this will apply to Steam games as well...

What is happening with all the SFV post? I might be missing something, I guess.
 
KingBroly said:
I don't know how many games will support this in the long run.

Shooters most likely won't because PC players would slaughter console players

MMO's probably will happen assuming MS softens their stance on paywalls there

Sports titles, particularly EA ones are probably going to jump on this
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yeah, will probably see limited support but still great. Would love to see it implemented cross-console for GTAV because then you'll get appreciably larger player pools.

I also wonder how things like cross-platform chat, etc. could work. I'm always partied up anyway, but... still.

Garrett Hawke said:
Cross platform play with xbox :) Sony obviously had it first with their own platforms and PC and we're yet to see if they'll be okay with it on xbox. Not accusing them of anything and tbh they were the ones that backed it in the first place so good on them.
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yeah like others have said a small handful have supported it ... Shadowrun notoriously supported cross-platform play for Xbox 360 and PC, but it was patched out (IIRC) and the program seemed dead.
 
Anton Sugar said:
I'm trying to think what this does for a game's lifespan or community. On GAF, for example, the Destiny community was largely PS4. Finding (dependable) GAF X1 players to play with was tough.
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That is it right there. Larger player pool (+ potentially other things). Gamers benefit. Third parties benefit. Console manufacturers - not so much.
 
ickingfudiot said:
Terminology suggestion for thread:

The gates on cross-play have been thrown open, but a lot of people in the thread are conflating this with cross-party, which is a different beast entirely, and one MS/Sony may stop well short of enabling for a myriad of reasons.
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Cross-party exists on W10 and Xbone, and Vita and PS4

I dont see it going much further
 
WadeitOut said:
...Again...I was responding to someone ELSE who was being skeptical of it happening. I completely think it is happening.

Context of posts is required people.
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Nevermind them, I didn't see you quoting HUELEN so I didn't know you were responding to him.

wapplew said:
If I am Sony, I wouldn't allow Xbox cross play with PS4 and keep PC cross play.
Why should I let them have my hard earn community? It's like Lonely kid want to join cool PC/PS4 party and his excuse is, I allow you to invite me now, if you don't do it, you are bad person.
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But I seem to remember seeing a thread talking about cross play between PS4 and WiiU in Dragon Quest X?

I don't see want they're losing doing it but it's true that I don't see what's there to gain either.
 
justsomeguy said:
Well AFAIK Rocket League isn't on Azure and it's the first game to support this.
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But that is xbox / PC cross play they are doing (check the rocket league pr statement), and the other cross network play news later, not confirmation, for all we know they won't be able to do it.
 
DeepEnigma said:
I have yet to see it saying Live/PSN will work. Just PC crossplay. Says possible for information in the future. So the questions are still out there.
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Microsoft Press Release said:
Rocket League will be one of the first games to take advantage of this new capability by enabling cross-network play between Xbox One and PC players, with an open invitation for other networks to participate as well
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JaggedSac said:
Yep. This is a play to make PC/Xbox game development easier. One less hurdle for a UWP version.
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Yeah E3 has the potential to he really damn exciting from MS. We are slowly seeing their new vision and it would be cool for them to just come all out and really reveal what the plans are at E3

gamz said:
They really want you to be on Xbox Live. Any way you choose.
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Yep you get it 100%. This is what MS sees as the future of Xbox
 
This is awesome, but unfortunally I don't see this being translated into XBO vs PS4 cross network play. I just don't see MS or Sony wanna give up control over their network. If it's on MS terms off course they would accept Sony or vice versa, but the minute they butt heads about an issue it won't work. Either they go into this and work on it together or this is just not happening.

Hopefully I am wrong, but imo some people are jumping the gun here a bit.
 
Elandyll said:
My 2cps on this.

One of the most cited reason to be on Xbox this gen (and last too), including on this very forum, is "My friends are on Xbox" (which is imo a corolary to the Nielsen most cited reason "Brand").
What this announcement potentially implies is that you can (perhaps) get a PC or PS4 and -still- play with your friends who remain on Xbox.
The PS4 has, to a point, that reason too (as market leader) but also happens to be the more attractive option in general as far as consoles go (power/ VR/ number of exclusives, etc).

Personally I think that MS made the move out of necessity (feature parity), and because it goes along with their "move to Win10 PC" plan, but time will tell if it costs them further...
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There was also a problem of games such as Gears 4 which are MP heavy, where it's available on Xbox and Win 10 store which are both owned by MS but does not allow for cross play. It had to be done to move Xbox as a service.
 
Elandyll said:
My 2cps on this.

One of the most cited reason to be on Xbox this gen (and last too), including on this very forum, is "My friends are on Xbox" (which is imo a corolary to the Nielsen most cited reason "Brand").
What this announcement potentially implies is that you can (perhaps) get a PC or PS4 and -still- play with your friends who remain on Xbox.
The PS4 has, to a point, that reason too (as market leader) but also happens to be the more attractive option in general as far as consoles go (power/ VR/ number of exclusives, etc).

Personally I think that MS made the move out of necessity (feature parity), and because it goes along with their "move to Win10 PC" plan, but time will tell if it costs them further...
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A person who wants to play with his friends that are on Xbox is still going to buy an Xbox One. This move doesn't change that because cross-platform play isn't gonna allow you to party chat, add people to your friends list, etc
 
justsomeguy said:
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'Open invitation', what are the DETAILS.

We keep asking and nobody has provided any (because there are none... yet.)

So the speculation remains.

TehGoomba said:
Btw Azure is in no where exclusive to MS. Here's an article stating that even PS4 exclusives can use Azure, so that wouldn't be a problem.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-says-xbox-one-cloud-tech-available-to-an/1100-6433263/
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We know this... but then it comes down to price/deals other networks currently have with their current infrastructure provider.

The shit isn't free.
 
It's still gonna be limited.

Rocket league for instance has no cross platform chat, text or voice, no console branded cars. Plus who gonna want to play RTS or FPS against PC players?

I cannot imagine this helping much at all with the decision of what console to buy.
 
Kiyo said:
What Microsoft is getting out of this is a larger player base for their own players, along with good will of gamers (as you can see in this thread). The increased player base is especially important for the console that's selling less.

For example, Battlefront has over double the amount of players playing on PS4 (31k) right now vs XB1 (14k). If Microsoft were able to access those additional 31k players, that only benefits their users. Maybe it convinces others to buy it on XB1 instead of just buying it on the console their friends get it on.
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That also works the other way: instead of buying it on XBO where your friends are you can get it on PS4 and still play with friends on XBO....if one of the main reasons you wanted to get an XBO was because of friends but wanted a PS4 more.

Its a double edged sword IMO.
 
Why do people keep posting snippets if they don't even read them. Don't be sad is PS4/One Rocket League play doesn't happen.

We REALLY need a thread title change.
 
amazing move. hope we can see rocket league ps4-xb1-pc crossplay soon, and hopefully AAA devs following suit. destiny, division, everything being completely platform agnostic? yes pleeease
 
TehGoomba said:
Btw Azure is in no where exclusive to MS. Here's an article stating that even PS4 exclusives can use Azure, so that wouldn't be a problem.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-says-xbox-one-cloud-tech-available-to-an/1100-6433263/
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Sigh, no one is claiming azure is exclusive. But if ms made it mandatory to use it to get cross play working it's them doing it just to get more money off devs and make themselves look good by saying "oh we allow it" if s Dev chooses to go with a different service that does not.
 
Anton Sugar said:
I'm trying to think what this does for a game's lifespan or community. On GAF, for example, the Destiny community was largely PS4. Finding (dependable) GAF X1 players to play with was tough.

Same with something where a specific community might be dying. If a PC player wants to play Battlefront, matchmaking can sometimes be a bitch due to the low player count.

Kinda the same with Rainbow Six: Siege. The GAF Siege community is really organized, has private/custom matches, etc., because there are a lot of players. Being able to be a part of that would be fantastic.
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I think it will definitely help a lot of games to have a less fractured player base but I think you'll still find people forming communities and guilds around what platform they play if communicating is difficult across platforms.
 
Awesome news... my new goal in life since I own Rocket League on 3 platforms is to get all of my accounts into the same party... all of course have the same name.

I plan on breaking the system.
 
Trup1aya said:
Right, but we know for a fact the Azure use isn't a requirement.
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No we do not.

Rocket League may be using Azure for the PC/Xbox communication, you do NOT know this, and more than likely they are.

Then the question remains, does Sony or Nintendo for that matter, have to use Azure to work with MSFT's terms as well?

Apathy said:
Sigh, no one is claiming azure is exclusive. But if ms made it mandatory to use it to get cross play working it's them doing it just to get more money off devs and make themselves look good by saying "oh we allow it" if s Dev chooses to go with a different service that does not.
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Exactly.
 
I think it's safe to assume Nintendo will never be onboard for this.
jroc74 said:
That also works the other way: instead of buying it on XBO where your friends are you can get it on PS4 and still play with friends on XBO....if one of the main reasons you wanted to get an XBO was because of friends but wanted a PS4 more.

Its a double edged sword IMO.
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There would still be limitations. You wouldn't be able to talk and message to people on PS4 and vice-versa.
 
Apathy said:
Sigh, no one is claiming azure is exclusive. But if ms made it mandatory to use it to get cross play working it's them doing it just to get more money off devs and make themselves look good by saying "oh we allow it" if s Dev chooses to go with a different service that does not.
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Why are we even speculating that this is on the table? The game that has been announced for cross-play doesn't use Azure.
 
I really hope Doom supports this, or Star Wars Battlefront! I have a PC and Xbone and literally all my friends have PS4's. Hopefully cross play really takes off because i don't want a ps4
 
Movalpolos said:
Ball is in Nintendo's court.
If they don't allow it I guess we'll just have another bullet point about Nintendo's failure.
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Nintendo has already said they they're fine with crossplay, infact there are a few games on the eshop right now that are cross-network like a chess game.
 
Wow, awesome. I glad they finally caved on this. I wonder if already released games will be able to update into this.

Edit: Oh, yup, I guess so. Didn't see they confirmed Rocket League. I wonder if that was the game that really pushed them to do it.
 
Wait... So this if for Xbox and PC players using Live.

PC...Live? Is this a Trojan horse to roll in paid Live service on PC, with the lure being cross platform play?

What's going on here?
 
JetBlackPanda said:
It doesn't work that way when Microsoft has been against cross platform full stop and Sony hasn't. Now that Microsoft is on board you can't ask for Sony examples of Microsoft cross platforms lol

Wtf guys come on
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All Im asking for is an article or quote that says Sony has always been open to Xbox cross play. To my understanding, they are open to PC/PS4 cross play, but I've always just assumed that they would be open to Xbox cross play.

With them leading the market significantly, I expect some hesitation.
 
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