Death Battle: Dante vs. Bayonetta

Good battle, but the result is bogus.

Dante does have a ridiculous regen, but Bayo has exponentially higher strength and defense. A normal bullet to the head makes Dante bleed, while Bayo can take a magic bullet from Jeanne and it wont even leave a scratch.

Bayonetta can also use witch time at will without need of dodging, as she does various times for finishing bosses. Not only that, she can use a second witch time while in witch time, something that she does when fighting a couple of bosses too.

Bayonetta can travel to purgatorio, where she becomes invisible and intangible for Dante, but she can still attack him. Bayonetta's summons can separate soul from body if they hit you and Dante let's himself get hit a lot because of his regen, but he can't heal from that.

Even if Dante can stop a hit from the savior statue, Bayonetta has better strength feats, as said in the video. If Bayonetta > Dante in strength, then Dante shouldn't be able to block Madam Butterfly that is stronger than Bayo.

Jeanne didn't hurt Bayonneta while stabbing her, as there is no blood on the blade or Bayonetta after the attack. That blade was meant for sealing, and can't be used as evidence of how much a stab would damage Bayonetta.
 

BennyBlanco

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Dahbomb

Member
I thought Kamiya confirmed Bayo was stronger.
Dante can get stronger since DMC1 you know. Take his feats in DMC4 into the equation as well as DMC2 (which Death Battle didn't go over but he's absurdly powerful in that).

Dragon Ball characters end up becoming DBZ characters.

Dante does have a ridiculous regen, but Bayo has exponentially higher strength and defense. A normal bullet to the head makes Dante bleed, while Bayo can take a magic bullet from Jeanne and it wont even leave a scratch.
There's no evidence to suggest that Bayo has higher defense than Dante. Just because Dante bleeds doesn't mean he is affected much by a bullet to the head. From what has been shown, Dante has taken much more severe punishment than Bayo and has gotten out without a scratch every time.

Bayonetta can also use witch time at will without need of dodging, as she does various times for finishing bosses. Not only that, she can use a second witch time while in witch time, something that she does when fighting a couple of bosses too.
And Dante can use Royal Guard + Doppelganger + Trickster to never get hit theoretically. It doesn't matter that she can use Witch Time because Dante still has Quicksilver as an ability he can do on command and nullify Witch Time. We can argue the whole Witch Time vs Quicksilver thing all day... but in DMC3 Dante defeats a boss that had Quicksilver as an ability and he beat that boss when he didn't even have QS himself. If you fight that boss again after acquiring QS... you can nullify its abilities with your own QS making the fight a cake walk.

Bayonetta can travel to purgatorio, where she becomes invisible and intangible for Dante, but she can still attack him. Bayonetta's summons can separate soul from body if they hit you and Dante let's himself get hit a lot because of his regen, but he can't heal from that.
And Dante has a sword that can cut through dimensions/space. Bayonetta summons are demon based, he eats that stuff for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Dante defeated Mundus, the satan equivalent of the world, who could control souls even create them (like he did Trish or enslaved Vergil's soul).

Even if Dante can stop a hit from the savior statue, Bayonetta has better strength feats, as said in the video. If Bayonetta > Dante in strength, then Dante shouldn't be able to block Madam Butterfly that is stronger than Bayo.
Most of Bayonetta's strength comes from her summons/Weaves. And like the video showed, he turned Devil Trigger to stop that attack where as against the savior he used his non DT form. DT form greatly increases his strength and since DMC2 he has access to DDT which increases his stats far beyond DT.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
I thought Kamiya confirmed Bayo was stronger.

In my mind Bayo is like a DBZ character, by the end of her game you are destroying gods and planets. Dante is like a Vash the Stampede or Dragon Ball character. Tough and skilled, but still sort of limited in a lot of ways.

Dante isn't solely Kamiya's anymore. He's evolved since Kamiya had his hands on him. Dante in DMC4 is essentially god status. Everything in that entire game is trivial to him, he's just along for the ride. He practically has no limitations, which is why a Death Battle like this is kind of difficult to gauge between two forces that haven't really met their limits.

where does he do that
i saw some weird lookin' judgement cuts with yamato but none with rebellion

He might be talking about here:
https://youtu.be/sFi_RzsKajA?t=15m42s

But that's actually more like the DMC3 rain intro than anything else.
 

Oberon

Banned
Bayonetta was in smash, and dante was in Psabr.
I see only one winner here....
not the same Dante, I know
 

Sephzilla

Member
Bayonetta can travel to purgatorio, where she becomes invisible and intangible for Dante, but she can still attack him.

If Yamato can technically slice through dimensions I think that would be Dante's workaround for being able to attack Bayonetta while she was in purgatorio.
 

nded

Member
where does he do that
i saw some weird lookin' judgement cuts with yamato but none with rebellion

Right after he jumps out of Gomorrah's mouth, he projects several circular slashes with Rebellion. Around 15:35.

Maybe not Judgment Cut exactly, but I don't remember it being part of Rebellion's move set even with swordmaster style. Maybe he did it in a cutscene or something?
 
That was totally badass. Didn't he have a desperation DT in DMC2 that he could've used if it got tougher?

The game needs to happen.
 
Expected.
No way to kill Dante really. That and he's a demon hunter so Bayo's summons would be classed as jobbers by definition. No real way to argue that the demons in the Bayo universe are more powerful than those in the DMC one

Madame Butterfly went out like a sucker. Still my MVP
I thought they were in the same universe?
 

TreIII

Member
Dante isn't solely Kamiya's anymore. He's evolved since Kamiya had his hands on him. Dante in DMC4 is essentially god status. Everything in that entire game is trivial to him, he's just along for the ride.

A certain part of me still wonders about that. Was Dante really a "God" by that point in time, or was it more like Goku in "Yo! Son Goku & Friends Return", who had no reason to push himself to the limits (and was even happy to let "the kid(s) handle things") because everything and everyone else involved in that particular episode was pathetically weak in comparison?

DMC2 is another story, but by then, we could safely assume that a Dante that could assume "Majin DT" levels of OP really is at the Apex of his potential (or close enough).
 

Sephzilla

Member
I thought they were in the same universe?

No direct confirmation but it's implied (or just Easter eggs). The Bayonetta character Enzo is directly pulled from one of the Devil May Cry novels. Tony Redgrave (Dante's traveling name) is referenced in Bayonetta. I believe DMC1 makes an implication that Dante's mother might have been an Umbran Witch.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Death Battle doesn't even talk about Desperation Devil Trigger (aka SSJ2) from Devil May Cry 2. If he was god status in DMC4 then he's beyond god status in DMC2.

And yeah DMC2 is still canon and takes place after DMC4 so DMC2 Dante is actually the strongest version of the character.


If the two characters are in the same universe like the Easter Eggs suggest then Dante should be able to tap into the Umbran Witch powers. If he can do that then what advantage would Bayonetta have over a half Umbran Witch, half demon off spring? I guess the Sage half of Bayonetta.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Death Battle doesn't even talk about Desperation Devil Trigger (aka SSJ2) from Devil May Cry 2. If he was god status in DMC4 then he's beyond god status in DMC2.

And yeah DMC2 is still canon and takes place after DMC4 so DMC2 Dante is actually the strongest version of the character.

*Eyeroll* (not at you but at DMC2's canon status).

DMC2 is never going to be referred to again nor is it going to have any bearing what so ever on the franchise, so it's effectively as non-canon as it can get without Capcom officially stating it's non canon.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
A certain part of me still wonders about that. Was Dante really a "God" by that point in time, or was it more like Goku in "Yo! Son Goku & Friends Return", who had no reason to push himself to the limits (and was even happy to let "the kid(s) handle things") because everything and everyone else involved in that particular episode was pathetically weak in comparison?

DMC2 is another story, but by then, we could safely assume that a Dante that could assume "Majin DT" levels of OP really is at the Apex of his potential (or close enough).

By the time DMC4 rolls around, he's taken out Mundus (in space) and grown since. There are legends that he has surpassed Sparda at that point. It's true that the antagonists of DMC4 are too weak to really test him, but just from an ability perspective he's untouchable.

I suspect they just chose to ignore DMC2 as a whole and remove it from their analysis since it's the black sheep.
 
Death Battle doesn't even talk about Desperation Devil Trigger (aka SSJ2) from Devil May Cry 2. If he was god status in DMC4 then he's beyond god status in DMC2.

And yeah DMC2 is still canon and takes place after DMC4 so DMC2 Dante is actually the strongest version of the character.


If the two characters are in the same universe like the Easter Eggs suggest then Dante should be able to tap into the Umbran Witch powers. If he can do that then what advantage would Bayonetta have over a half Umbran Witch, half demon off spring? I guess the Sage half of Bayonetta.
Nigga is literally invincible in majin DT. He's GOD at that point.
 

Bronetta

Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
That was simply jizztastic.

I came.

A real DMCxBayonetta crossover can't come soon enough.
 

Majukun

Member
i still think bayo should have won,since she's actually capable of sending dante across the galaxy to the freaking sun..something that even his regenerative abilities would not able to heal...but if we don't count that,it's true that dante shrugs off mortal wounds like they are mosquito bites,while bayo has never been gravely injured in the games and has no regenerative abilities
 

TreIII

Member
If the two characters are in the same universe like the Easter Eggs suggest then Dante should be able to tap into the Umbran Witch powers. If he can do that then what advantage would Bayonetta have over a half Umbran Witch, half demon off spring? I guess the Sage half of Bayonetta.

A possibility, but as of yet, we haven't seen any proof that Cereza knows any Lumen Sage arts. Since Sage/Witch arts are things that are taught, rather than "bloodline" related powers, that may not be a factor. But who knows if we get to see a third game?

Also, even if she technically doesn't possess the Left Eye anymore, she's still technically a walking paradox (in all senses of the word) who can apparently travel through time as much as she wants.

EDIT:

By the time DMC4 rolls around, he's taken out Mundus (in space) and grown since. There are legends that he has surpassed Sparda at that point. It's true that the antagonists of DMC4 are too weak to really test him, but just from an ability perspective he's untouchable.

I suspect they just chose to ignore DMC2 as a whole and remove it from their analysis since it's the black sheep.

I guess it's just a thing that it doesn't really come off as that impressive, when in the time frame between DMC1 and DMC4 (including the anime), we've been basically seeing him barely batting an eye at scrubs. So, is it really a thing that he's that damn strong, or is he just a big fish in a small pond?

The sooner Dante and the crew get a "Beerus" to show up in their lives, the better, I say.
 
Dante is a pro at killing demons, and Bayo's main trump card is her demons.
I think the actual question is Jeanne vs. Trish
 

Dahbomb

Member
i still think bayo should have won,since she's actually capable of sending dante across the galaxy to the freaking sun..something that even his regenerative abilities would not able to heal...but if we don't count that,it's true that dante shrugs off mortal wounds like they are mosquito bites,while bayo has never been gravely injured in the games and has no regenerative abilities
Dante has already fought and won a battle in space.

Did they do a pre-show/post-show for this? I can't find it anywhere.
 

Majukun

Member
Dante has already fought and won a battle in space.

Did they do a pre-show/post-show for this? I can't find it anywhere.

it's not about the vacuum of space,but about hitting the sun face firts..his regenerative power is top notch..but his actual defense it's not that good since he is hurt by bullets..so i don't think he can avoid being burnt to a crisp by the sun
 

Arttemis

Member
The only VA in this I thought was "bad" was Dante.

I didn't even realize there was an animated battle in the second half. I stopped within 2 minutes due to that unnecessarily gruff, one-liner speaking guy. It did nothing but get on my nerves. Once you said this, I had to see how and when Dante even had a chance to speak, and then found some really awesome fighting!

I think Bayonetta would have done better, honestly.
 

Seyavesh

Member
i still think bayo should have won,since she's actually capable of sending dante across the galaxy to the freaking sun..something that even his regenerative abilities would not able to heal...but if we don't count that,it's true that dante shrugs off mortal wounds like they are mosquito bites,while bayo has never been gravely injured in the games and has no regenerative abilities

queen sheba is a summon that requires another person
also, it's still a demon summon

dante has killed like three dang satans, twice in their own dimensions that they control

i was actually hoping to see some queen sheba vs. dante w/ sparda shit though
 

cheesekao

Member
it's not about the vacuum of space,but about hitting the sun face firts..his regenerative power is top notch..but his actual defense it's not that good since he is hurt by bullets..so i don't think he can avoid being burnt to a crisp by the sun
Isn't Dante unkillable when in dreadnought mode though? How is that even fair?
 

Ad0ve

Banned
I swear Kamiya had confirmed that Bayo would destroy Dante if they fought, but I cant seem to find that on Google so maybe its just my imagination
 

Majukun

Member
queen sheba is a summon that requires another person
also, it's still a demon summon

dante has killed like three dang satans, twice in their own dimensions that they control

i was actually hoping to see some queen sheba vs. dante w/ sparda shit though
are you sure it requires another person? in the game when she does it she is alone sealed in a bubble.. I know there are two different color of hairs on it, but wasn't Jeanne long gone at that point in the story?
I swear Kamiya had confirmed that Bayo would destroy Dante if they fought, but I cant seem to find that on Google so maybe its just my imagination
he totally did
Isn't Dante unkillable when in dreadnought mode though? How is that even fair?
that form. normally has a time limit, once he is on the sun he can't kept it forever
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
Great fight, but yeah bayo wouldn't go down that easily, I have a hard time seeing how dante could beat her in the first place.

Bayo is a shitton stronger physically, that statue dante stopped is not nearly indicative of bayo's or madame butterfly's strength (who in turn is much stronger than bayo).

Heck the whole "demon hunter thing" doesn't really hold any merit since the strongest lumen sage (basically the king of demon killers, who basically snaps his finger and bayo's summons die) couldn't get rid of her either. And god, straight up god, couldn't withstand the demon fusion (sheba) that punched her into the sun.

Dante just cutting her head of like that is nonsense, that's like dante starting the mundus fight, sneezing at him and mundus explodes.

Also quicksilver is great, but it shouldn't work against serious mode witch time, basically all the bosses in bayo are always in "quicksilver", she fights them in the span of an instant passing in the real world, but she can still use witch time on them to slow them down even further, dante has nothing to counter that; the moment she went serious mode at the end there, the fight should've been in her favour heavily.

But still great fight to see, animation was dope.
 

E-flux

Member
Wasn't fan of the editing and the voices, but these have come a long way since the 2D sprite stuff they used in the past.
 

Majukun

Member
Great fight, but yeah bayo wouldn't go down that easily, I have a hard time seeing how dante could beat her in the first place.

Bayo is a shitton stronger physically, that statue dante stopped is not nearly indicative of bayo's or madame butterfly's strength (who in turn is much stronger than bayo).

Heck the whole "demon hunter thing" doesn't really hold any merit since the strongest lumen sage (basically the king of demon killers, who basically snaps his finger and bayo's summons die) couldn't get rid of her either. And god, straight up god, couldn't withstand the demon fusion (sheba) that punched her into the sun.

Dante just cutting her head of like that is nonsense, that's like dante starting the mundus fight, sneezing at him and mundus explodes.

Also quicksilver is great, but it shouldn't work against serious mode witch time, basically all the bosses in bayo are always in "quicksilver", she fights them in the span of an instant passing in the real world, but she can still use witch time on them to slow them down even further, dante has nothing to counter that; the moment she went serious mode at the end there, the fight should've been in her favour heavily.

But still great fight to see, animation was dope.
damn you are right about the quicksilver thing.. didn't think of that.. they even said it in the video but they didn't really consider what it implies.
although the main problem was not being unable to hit him, but to kill him
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
damn you are right about the quicksilver thing.. didn't think of that.. they even said it in the video but they didn't really consider what it implies.
although the main problem was not being unable to hit him, but to kill him

Well, she should be able to hold on long enough easily for jeanne to obliterate trish, and then summon sheba to punch dante into the sun?
 

Seyavesh

Member
are you sure it requires another person? in the game when she does it she is alone sealed in a bubble.. I know there are two different color of hairs on it, but wasn't Jeanne long gone at that point in the story?

i am 100% sure
there's a second summoning hair thing that shoots up into the portal during that animation
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
yeah, but how?
Jeanne is not even there, let alone able to summon anything at that point

No it's definitely jeanne's hair, she's just offscreen somewhere. Sheba needs 2 witches.

Also it's not just the bosses, now that I think about it, the very first real fight you have in bayonetta (when the angels ambush the car on the highway), the angels are in "quicksilver" as well, but they are can still be affected by witch time; it's not in serious mode so it runs out after awhile though.

Edit: no I'm remembering that wrong, they are in witch time when the fight starts (and can still be stacked with more witch time to slow them down even further), then after awhile the angels adapt and "quicksilver" like dante does in this fight, but it doesn't matter, witch time still works on them even though for the rest of the world that fight is over in an instant.
 

Majukun

Member
No it's definitely jeanne's hair, she's just offscreen somewhere. Sheba needs 2 witches.

Also it's not just the bosses, now that I think about it, the very first real fight you have in bayonetta (when the angels ambush the car on the highway), the angels are in "quicksilver" as well, but they are can still be affected by witch time; it's not in serious mode so it runs out after awhile though.
if I remember correctly, she is driftin away in space at that moment after saving Bayo.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Isn't Dante unkillable when in dreadnought mode though? How is that even fair?
Forgot about Dreadnaught, yeah as far as I know he's immune to any damage during that form. They didn't even talk about that in the video.

Though the form is limited to the energy he has absorbed from Royal Guards. If Bayonetta can time dodges to activate Witch Time then Dante should be allowed to block attacks to store RG charges.

Dreadnaught still doesn't matter much anyway in the fight. Dante is hard as hell to kill as it is.
 

Light_End

Banned
I hate how quickly deathbattle will stretch something that's clearly done for visual effect and try to put physics to it as if that's what the developers intended.

Dante IS ridiculously fast and basically immortal, but Bayonetta punched god into a star.

Come on.


Either way, it's impossible to take game mechanics and then stretch them to the real world. Yes, dante is invincible during Dreadnaught form, but he's also invincible during the rise of his jump and the start of his roll animation...where do you even draw the line?
 
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