X-men Apocalypse Official Trailer

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Toa TAK said:
Truth. There are plenty of moments throughout the Marvel films that should lead to more dramatic scenes or linger on something that's happened. But then that's the moment where they just cut to a quick joke.

It works for them and that's fine, but I know we'll never get anything on par of the films you listed up there or Spider-Man 2 from them.

Unless Civil War or Dr. Strange proves me wrong.
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Winter Soldier had that Peggy scene that I thought was great so I'm sure Civil War will have a good dramatic scene like that. But yeah in general I agree.
 
Prompto said:
Winter Soldier had that Peggy scene that I thought was great so I'm sure Civil War will have a good dramatic scene like that. But yeah in general I agree.
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Yeah, that was good. Or when Rogers is punching multiple punching bags in Avengers or when Tony becomes frustrated in the first Iron Man seeing his weapons on tv used to kill innocents. I feel like despite all these movies, I don't really see these characters grow. That's fine for Cap, as he's an immovable object when it comes to his beliefs, but for Iron Man or Thor, beyond their origin movies, I don't think they've really learned or grown much.

Hopefully that changes in Civil War.
 
Prompto said:
Winter Soldier had that Peggy scene that I thought was great so I'm sure Civil War will have a good dramatic scene like that. But yeah in general I agree.
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Thats a scene that should be sad but frankly I found it corny. Between cgi'ing peggys face and Chris Evans not having particularly good dramatic chops it just falls flat. And that's like the best example in all their 12 films
 
Effects have gotten better with each trailer even though it's still a bit iffy, but I can't get behind that Apocalypse design at all. Especially when we have Thanos running around looking like a beast.

Jennifer Lawrence looking like the leader of the X-Men still pisses me off to no end especially when she's been easily the worst character of the new string of X-Men movies. I'll see for Issac/Apoc because I think he will still be awesome despite the design and because I believe in Singer. Been waiting too long for Apoc in an X-Men movie.
 
Toa TAK said:
Yeah, that was good. Or when Rogers is punching multiple punching bags in Avengers or when Tony becomes frustrated in the first Iron Man seeing his weapons on tv used to kill innocents. I feel like despite all these movies, I don't really see these characters grow. That's fine for Cap, as he's an immovable object when it comes to his beliefs, but for Iron Man or Thor, beyond their origin movies, I don't think they've really learned or grown much.

Hopefully that changes in Civil War.
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Ironically, this is probably the most comic-accurate part of the movies. Characters grow, then go back to square one. Marvel has really captured the treadmill. But the gravy train can't last forever. Contracts end, actors age. The movies, at some point, will be forced to change.
 
Put Mystique on the backburner and build up Scott's character and establish him as the leader. He got jobbed so bad in the original trilogy if they do it again I'm out.
 
catashtrophe said:
Well in the same world Fox have made Deadpool a household name and at this rate will be as popular as Iron man
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You mean the movie that Fox had to basically be manipulated into making?

The Deadpool team should be in charge of the X-Men films at this point.

ViewtifulJC said:
I could get over the boring year 2000 leather, but they have consistently botched bringing anything resembling the rich characters and relationships shared between Jean, Scott, Hank, Logan, Peter, Kitty, Kurt, etc. Its crazy how little of their own mythology they've explored after 16 fuckin' years. DECADES of great comic stories and ideas with strong team dynamics and interesting characters! Shi'ar! Genosha! Savage Land! How are we still here in this "we're still figuring out this whole superhero movie thing" mode of forgettable characters with a feign resemblance to their comic counterparts and weightless CGI destruction?

Like the Avengers movies have gotten to the point where their colorful, well-defined characters can just fuck around at a party and be entertaining in Age of Ultron. How are the X-Men not at that level when they pretty much invented that kinda chemistry and humanity? Some of the best issues are like, Colossus running into Juggernaut at a bar, or "Professor Xavier is a Jerk!" where they fuck around at the mansion.
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I take it back. Viewtiful should be in charge.
 
TatorTots said:
I love X-Men, which is why I'm not excited for this movie. Seeing Colossus in Deadpool shown me that Singer has no idea what he is doing with these characters. Singer is also terrified of color. Give them some color and better costumes. Look at the original X-Men.
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Now Look at Negasonic Teenage Warhead from Deadpool...at least they tried.
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Callibretto said:
I like DoFP, but not really feeling the trailers for this one. Something feels off. Even the action shot looks kinda awkward to me.
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To be honest, the x-men movie never shines for his "actions" scene
The only memorable one that I recall is the nightcrawler scene in x-men 2
 
Pai Pai Master said:
Unless they hire a major money-making star to play Cyclops he will never be the team leader.
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The dude playing him probably has the most promising career out of any of the other young X-Men plus he's also starring in a Spielberg film soon. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually does become a money-making star.
 
EnVy_CaLiBeR said:
Guess I prefer the CG done on Thanos more than I prefer what's being done to Apoc here. Doesn't remind me of Apoc at all from the old cartoon or the comic, although he's always looked a bit over the top.
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Gotcha. I guess I personally just see two ridiculous-looking supervillains but I'm perfectly okay with that.
 
Toa TAK said:
And that's totally cool, but if the only reason to like it was just the costumes that just confuses me. Costumes were lame in X2 and DOFP, but it didn't stop them from being good movies as well.
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Costumes are not the only reason. Just a small part of a bigger picture. Some of the characters feel hollow to me and it's like they're just cramming every mutant Fox has rights to onto the screen at this point. I'd like to see a X-Men movie with a team of 5-6 so characters can be developed. It's sad that I'm looking forward to Deadpool movies more because I know the X-Men that make cameos will resemble their comic persona more.
 
Discotheque said:
In only that sense tbh. Even their best films lack the dramatic scenes and gravitas (I say this tongue in cheek it usually veers towards being a bit melodramatic which is perfectly fine for the genre) that the Nolan trilogy and singers movies and first class had.

Like he consistently pulls out some good performances out of a few particular actors

Comic fans are always gonna whine about this franchise. That's cool. I'm just really glad it still exists outside of marvel. It has its weaknesses but I still think it's strengths far outweigh them. Especially with singer involved. Dofp was the best of the 3 easily for me in 2014.

The only other stuff this year that really reminds me of the best exchanges between singer xavier/mags is that scene between Bruce and Alfred about superman in the BvS promos

I love shit like that. Where it looks like the actors actually give a shit and are bringing their talent to something you'd think they would just sleepwalk through (which ironically is what Lawrence has been doing in this franchise)
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I don't think Marvel is particularly good at dramatic scenes but I also wouldn't say Singer is any better.
 
Hmm, on one hand Oscar Isaac is in it, buuuut on the other, Jlaw looks to be (one of) the leads. I'm guessing she's gonna be in the majority of the movie.
 
Scott will be a big shot in whatever the next X-Men movie is to follow after Apocalypse, if I had to guess.

He'll get introduced here and we'll get to know him a little. Just an assumption based on the fact this is likely J-Law's last X-Men flick.
 
Prompto said:
The dude playing him probably has the most promising career out of any of the other young X-Men plus he's also starring in a Spielberg film soon. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually does become a money-making star.
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KalBalboa said:
Scott will be a big shot in whatever the next X-Men movie is to follow after Apocalypse, if I had to guess.

He'll get introduced here and we'll get to know him a little. Just an assumption based on the fact this is likely J-Law's last X-Men flick.
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Really hope so. I can't live through them fucking over Scott again.
 
Toa TAK said:
Truth. There are plenty of moments throughout the Marvel films that should lead to more dramatic scenes or linger on something that's happened. But then that's the moment where they just cut to a quick joke.

It works for them and that's fine, but I know we'll never get anything on par of the films you listed up there or Spider-Man 2 from them.

Unless Civil War or Dr. Strange proves me wrong.
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Which is why I am not too excited about MCU Spiderman. None of the MCU movies are even close to Spidey 2. I would have preferred Sony to give Raimi a chance again and have a hands off approach without arad interfering rather than give Marvel Movies any sort of creative control.
 
How will they explain his machinery in the distant past? Are they allowed to talk about the Celestials?


Dalek said:
She says "You're not students anymore. You're X-Men" with the less effort than Kramer said "These peanuts are making me thirsty."
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If you walk out that door, you're an Avenger!
 
WanderingWind said:
"Can't you read? Also, what do these simple sentences mean?"



"Also, all of non-Nolan/Burton DC movies counts as half a movie and his 1 unnamed movie is another half!"
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The Nolan/Burton work is better than what he's made and very select few Marvel movies. He made one bad movie and his other ones rocked in comparison to what Marvel and DC put out overall. Overall he's around the top of the general quality of comic book movies I'm not sure where you're going with your nonsense, but I'm sure you'll get to the point soon. Him not doing as good a job as someone like Nolan or 1 or 2/14 movies Marvel made is pretty good. He has a great resume, despite me having very little hype for it. If this guy needs to be replaced, then what about 90% of the other directors making comic book movies.
 
Ha, that's a good Coldplay song they used for the trailer.

Looks good, archangel still looks hot. What's the actor's name?
 
Toa TAK said:
Yeah, that was good. Or when Rogers is punching multiple punching bags in Avengers or when Tony becomes frustrated in the first Iron Man seeing his weapons on tv used to kill innocents. I feel like despite all these movies, I don't really see these characters grow. That's fine for Cap, as he's an immovable object when it comes to his beliefs, but for Iron Man or Thor, beyond their origin movies, I don't think they've really learned or grown much.

Hopefully that changes in Civil War.
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Rogers has grown a ton as a character. Winter Soldier addresses how he can't just fall in line and take orders and touches on heavy themes such as survivor's guilt. AoU finally gave him a home. Tony has grown a ton too since Iron Man 1. The guy dealt with thinking he was slowly dying, PTSD, and eventually becomes codependent on Pepper to stay (somewhat) sane.

I'm not saying the MCU is a deep well of drama or introspection but the broad complaints about it being shallow and vapid as a whole is such lazy criticism. Not every MCU movie is silly fun like Guardians, Ant-Man, or the first Avengers, and not every character is as flat as Thor. And it's not like Nolan's trilogy contain any profound insights on the human condition. Those movies, while great films, are fairly sterile due to the deadpan serious tone.

Meanwhile, the X-Men franchise is stuck in a bit of a loop with its stories. Either a bad mutant has a plan to kill all humans or a bad human has a plan to kill all mutants. And somewhere down the line, Magneto will betray the X-men!
 
Frozenprince said:
There are 6 movies now. Plus the Wolverine spin-offs.

What can you tell me about any of the characters in any of them that's deeper than surface level?

It's a joke. 6 movies and we know NOTHING about any of these people or their relationships, motivations, etc etc.
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Because the movies have focused on different characters. Magneto, Xavier, Mystique, Rogue, Iceman, and Wolverine. You may not like the characters they focused on, but it is silly to say there has not been significant character development.
 
The focus on Mystique is really turning me off. Hope that's just for the trailers. Have we even heard any of the new kids, Jean, Scott, Storm etc. say anything?
 
Kinyou said:
The focus on Mystique is really turning me off. Hope that's just for the trailers. Have we even heard any of the new kids, Jean, Scott, Storm etc. say anything?
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Jean was like the very first thing we saw in the last trailer, and she talked to Xavier about her vision of Apocalypse
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
I don't think Marvel is particularly good at dramatic scenes but I also wouldn't say Singer is any better.
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Literally any scene between xavier/Magneto (young and old ). Stryker/Wolverine

Junkie xavier (lol) and Picard xavier. Wolverine waking up to the good future etc.

It's where his movies excel over other marvel ones currently

And let's face it, outside of cap 2 and Spidey 2 none of them are particularly good action movies. So you take what you can get whether it's good humor (iron man 3 and guardians) or decent acting/character drama (xmen franchise, Hulk and TDK trilogy)

So yeah like I said, it has its problems with focusing on such a small set of characters but I still think the output has veered back towards being good for the franchise so whatever.
 
guek said:
Rogers has grown a ton as a character. Winter Soldier addresses how he can't just fall in line and take orders and touches on heavy themes such as survivor's guilt. AoU finally gave him a home. Tony has grown a ton too since Iron Man 1. The guy dealt with thinking he was slowly dying, PTSD, and eventually becomes codependent on Pepper to stay (somewhat) sane.

I'm not saying the MCU is a deep well of drama or introspection but the broad complaints about it being shallow and vapid as a whole is such lazy criticism. Not every MCU movie is silly fun like Guardians, Ant-Man, or the first Avengers, and not every character is as flat as Thor. And it's not like Nolan's trilogy contain any profound insights on the human condition. Those movies, while great films, are fairly sterile due to the deadpan serious tone.
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I am not sure what sterile and serious tone got to do with each other but Nolan films had one thing that I feel is always more often than not missing in the MCU - Stakes or at least Stakes treated with some kind of seriousness. Compare the joker -Batman scene during the Rachel, Harvey sequence to the AoU ending. Even though AoU had way more people in danger I found it very difficult to buy into any of it. It just felt like just another generic villain doing just another generic thing with lots of bad humor ( its all in the swing...) that just undermines everything. I am not saying Ultron should have been as riveting as Joker but atleast treat the proceedings with some seriousness and gravitas.

Discotheque said:
Literally any scene between xavier/Magneto (young and old ). Stryker/Wolverine

Junkie xavier (lol) and Picard xavier. Wolverine waking up to the good future etc.

It's where his movies excel over other marvel ones currently

And let's face it, outside of cap 2 and Spidey 2 none of them are particularly good action movies. So you take what you can get whether it's good humor (iron man 3 and guardians) or decent acting/character drama (xmen franchise, Hulk and TDK trilogy)

So yeah like I said, it has its problems with focusing on such a small set of characters but I still think the output has veered back towards being good for the franchise so whatever.
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Yeah Singer is not particularly great but def better than the bulk of the MCU. Cap 2 is very very good and I think Russo Brothers taking over the mantle is a great thing. Everything had weight to it and while it had Humor it was not overkill like the insufferable Whedon quips.
 
Not as excited for this as BvS or Civil War but I will bo doubt see it in theaters. Looks pretty good and I liked DoFP so there's that.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
The X-Men must be the most wasted potential superhero movie franchise of all-time. Like its amazing to me that we live in a world where Tony Stark is more popular than Wolverine. That shit was everything back in the 90s, you couldn't escape it. Now its movies come out and there's a collective shrug. "Eh, I guess I see it :/"

Like fuck man...how did Fox let this happen
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Eh, to each their own. I agree though potential is absolutely waste, but I think they've been consistent enough quality wise.

Not as loyal as Marvel is to the source material, but the films have been entertaining enough, and have far less of a shit output than MCU. RDJ Stark is bigger than Superman right now, him being bigger than Logan isn't much of a shock. Didn't IM3 gross more than TDKR?

Good:
X2
First Class
DoFP

Ok:
X1
The Wolverine

Shit:
X3
Wolverine Origins
 
In it for Fassbender and McAvoy, 3 movies in and every one else still is below them, nothing else interests me here. and Ms. Aaron Rodgers looks stupid as hell,

Toa TAK said:
You know the most poignant scene in the entire MCU?

Fucking this one between two robots (one android, but whatever). That's fantastic and it's not even between two people. Why can't I get more scenes like this between the action and comedy?
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Jesus the CGI is terrible in ultron, but still looks better than this movie, the disentegrating cars look like a xbox 360 game.
 
Spinluck said:
Eh, to each their own. I agree though potential is absolutely waste, but I think they've been consistent enough quality wise.

Not as loyal as Marvel is to the source material, but the films have been entertaining enough, and have far less of a shit output than MCU. RDJ Stark is bigger than Superman right now, him being bigger than Logan isn't much of a shock. Didn't IM3 gross more than TDKR?

Good:
X2
First Class
DoFP

Ok:
X1
The Wolverine

Shit:
X3
Wolverine Origins
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I can go along with this, though I really liked X1 too.
 
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