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More_Badass
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Just like they're adapting the basic idea of Civil War, I could see the basic skeleton of Shadowland working on the show. Just the general concept of Matt crossing that line, being possessed, and Iron Fist, Cage, and Jessica needing to work together to save him/defeat the Hand
BKatastrophe
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Good lord the vitriol for that show
...what
I mean this is also true
Man that kid is so fucking boring. Cool powers thoughShadowland would be great, best part was Powerman's story
I'd like for Phil Coulson to meet with the Avengers during Infinity War to fuck with their minds. Or for Daisy Johnson to appear in Inhumans.
Dusk Soldier
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I think it has more to do with the fact that the last 3 spider-man movies have been terrible, and if they're going to be rebooting the franchise anyways, why not do one of the other spider-men instead of rehashing peter parker again?
What is laughable about it?
BKatastrophe
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Well, they didn't have the resources to do a giant Terrigen bomb and have that affect the world. I fail to see how it's done any harm
Preach, man. Miles is boring, and I legit don't understand how anyone could honestly prefer him as a character over Peter. What even is Miles' personality? He's always been super timid to me.
I also don't like that Marvel keeps pushing him. I'm black, and Miles does nothing for me. Of course, I will always be a little biased that the best version of Pete(Ultimate) had to die so this wetrag could take his place.
Would love to see Miles' costume on the big screen though.
Let me reiterate - it's all well and good as its own story, but it is a terrible use of the property when seen as part of the larger MCU as it can either connect to the Inhuman's movie and bog it down, or be completely ignored, and thus render it a pointless addition to the canon.
ScreenSplitter
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The Netflix shows far outclass the AOS for sure, and I'd want them to be top priority. They make more sense than including the filibuster of Coulson not really being dead too. Just have Daredevil and Luke struggling to hold back Thanos's goons over a monologue of Thanos explaining how humans are too weak to persist etc.
We don't need any explanation whatsoever, just a "There are those foolish enough to follow the example you set..." Done.
I'm a little annoyed Daredevil isn't a part of Civil War really, he makes perfect sense theme-wise.
We don't need any explanation whatsoever, just a "There are those foolish enough to follow the example you set..." Done.
I'm a little annoyed Daredevil isn't a part of Civil War really, he makes perfect sense theme-wise.
CloudyTuba
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I've been fairly apathetic to Miles in the past, but as of the new universe reboot I'm enjoying his books more than Peter's. Still early days, though. Can't say it will stay that way, we'll see.
I don't want the movies to skip over Peter in favor of Miles, though. I can't really see Miles ever being in a movie as Spider-man unless it's after a very long successful series of like 6 spidey movies. Which is unlikely.
BKatastrophe
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But you're confusing me again: how does it bog the solo movie down? You seem convinced that AoS does more harm than good to the overall MCU, but I'm failing to see where the actual harm is. I doubt the solo film will even bother with the greater MCU as a whole. It's far more likely that it will do some variation of the OG Inhumans arc (Maximus takes over Attilan and kicks the Royal Family out). I doubt much will come of any of it in the first film, but that doesn't render it a pointless addition. The Inhumans are fairly reclusive, and most if their best stories deal strictly with themselves and are very internal, since they don't typically play nice with the rest of the world. If AoS and the Inhumans solo don't acknowledge each other by the first solo film, it literally means nothing.
Nah
It's not as bad as some of the hyperbolic praise I see around here.
Oh thank you! I thought I was the only one who thought so.
ScreenSplitter
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Agents of Shield is a stain on Marvel's record for me. I've tried and tried but it's just dull as dishwater.
Daisy's powers were cool at first but her and almost every other Inhuman in AoS mainly have some "budget" version of their powers that they get to use most of the time. Maybe we get one showy display of power where I genuinely think "wow, that was pretty cool", but most of the time it's shit happening off screen or just really uncreative ways that don't work well within the budget restrictions of the show.
It doesn't help that Daisy and Lincoln practically have reskinned versions of the same power when taking down random goons with electric and vibration beams. Ugh. When they showed a more subtle effect for her powers and she did more varied and interesting stuff, her powers seemed far cooler, despite being less showy/flashy.
That's been my biggest gripe about AoS this season, they finally get superpowers and the show doesn't get any cooler for it. Such a missed opportunity. It's the main reason I don't really care to see them make a crossover into an Inhumans or Infinity War movie since they just haven't been realized in a way that makes it something I want to see at this point, and was something I really still wanted a year or 2 ago.
Let me guess, you only tried season 1?
Russo's are supposed to be going live in a couple minutes on Facebook, right?
EDIT: Yeah, here is the Russo's getting Chris Evans' reaction to the finished film after he first saw it.
Alternate link to the video.
EDIT: Yeah, here is the Russo's getting Chris Evans' reaction to the finished film after he first saw it.
Alternate link to the video.
Oh for the love of fucking god I was being facetious! Jesus Christ some of you guys are sensitive as FUCK to any kind of criticism against something you like! Sheesh!
I already talked about why I don't think the show is good in other posts in this very same thread.
I've watched every episode of season 1 and season 2, and outside of perhaps three or four episodes, the show is mediocre at best. It's biggest problem is that the vast majority of characters are unlikable. They killed off some of the more interesting ones (Bill Paxton's character, Tripplet), and some of the more compelling characters were one and done (such as the former agent that betrayed them and took over their base in season one, and Marta from Arrested Development's character).
Ward? Unlikable. Sky? She's hot and cold. Sometimes great, often annoying. Coulson? Inconsistent. I love Coulson, but he is written terribly on the show. May is badass, but bland and one note. Mack has absolutely no personality at all. Tripplet was a much more fun and charismatic token black guy. Fitz and Simmons have actually improved over season one, but they completely dropped the compelling PTSD Fitz storyline, and Simmons on the alien planet was some of the best stuff I've seen on the show, but that was just two episodes. They actually had her doing something interesting, then it was back to their boring adventures on earth, and the Inhuman's storyline that's actually really boring.
Hunter and Mockingbird are actually interesting. I'll watch their spin-off show, because I do think they're consistent, and fun characters. I kept watching because I kept hoping it would get better, but I was left scratching my head when I'd hear people saying how amazing of a show it is. It isn't for me, personally, and that's ok. I mean, fuck, I like Supergirl, and that show is pretty fucking mediocre too. I also keep watching because I want it to get better (and at least Supergirl has some likable characters, especially our protagonist. Skye was much more fun when she was the snarky hacker. I don't know what they're doing with her now, but it's not working).
Calling it Agents of S.H.I.T was me being cheeky, but I know, comic book shows are serious business. I haven't written the show off completely, but the moment a more interesting. MCU tv show comes along, I am there. I love Daredevil and Jessica Jones, but the network Marvel show so far pales in comparison. And I don't think it being a network show is the problem. It's mainly the fact that it doesn't seem like Marvel gives a shit about it, and it's forced to root around in the scraps of the MCU, and it feels small potatoes.
I think a shift in tone could do the show wonders. Personally, I think the characters need to lighten the fuck up. They're so dour and serious. I like the cast, as I think the actors are very personable. Just...not on the show.
BKatastrophe
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Personally I've seen more bashing than praise for the show, but you aren't wrong. Hyperbole is hyperbole and it's irritating regardless of the direction. It's my favorite superhero show ongoing right now, so I'm okay with it.
Regardless, I would like to see a few of the cast members in: Coulson because he's an MCU alumni; Daisy because she's an Inhuman and an adaption of an existing comic character (Quake, for those who don't know, but I'm sure everyone does at this point); Bobbi because she's also an adaption of an existing character (Mockingbird, again for those who don't know but I'm sure everyone does at this point). They can keep the rest off. I mean, I'd like to see my girl May wreck shit on the big screen, but I'll settle.
The show's first 6 episodes are boring, obviously the rest 50 episodes are too!!!
BKatastrophe
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I don't really think getting on people's cases for not wanting to continue a show they clearly aren't into is a good idea. They don't like it, then they don't have to keep watching regardless if it "gets better" is valid. That said, it's also not okay to make a generalization of a show (one that's two and a half seasons in) based on a few episodes.
ScreenSplitter
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When you assume etc. Watched well into season 2. Sorry, if I have to watch that much of a show on the vague promise it might be good at some point, it isn't very.
DD isn't affected by the Sokovia accords, nor would Ross care two thoughts about him. He's a vigilante running around hell's kitchen, compared to the avengers he's a nobody.
Itchy//Tasty
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Man, I love AoS. It's gotten better over time in my opinion, and I pretty much care about the entire cast at this point. It's just fun and has a ton of heart, much like MCU movies.
UltimaPooh
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What I would love instead of just having the Netflix/TV characters show up in the movies is have more of crossover on the actual shows.
For instance... after Civil War have that impact what happens in Hell's Kitchen. Maybe have Spidey swing by for a couple of episodes. Where is Hydra in all of this?
For instance... after Civil War have that impact what happens in Hell's Kitchen. Maybe have Spidey swing by for a couple of episodes. Where is Hydra in all of this?
ScreenSplitter
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Luke Cage is pretty OP compared to the rest of the Hell's Kitchen heroes so I've got to imagine the events of CW will affect him in someway. Spidey likely won't happen due to logistical issues with Sony (though don't Marvel own TV rights for Spidey?)
HYDRA is weak after WS and AOU, but then Baron Zemo is a character in this film, so...
papa bless
Well, OP until you shoot a shotgun pointblank to the noggin.
and
Cut off one head...
I don't know what that gif is supposed to mean...
I love Agent Carter. Season 1 is solid, and coasts off of the charming Hayley Atwell being so damn likable, especially during the slower episodes. Overall, the fun episodes outweigh any slow episodes in season 1, mainly because the season is only 10 episodes (I think it's 10,at be 13?) Season 2 has been great, with a better focused narrative and through line. It's a fun show. With a cast of like able characters with personality. The tone is a lot lighter as well, despite some of the more serious storylines.
I think what hurts AoS, among other things, is the fact that they have to fill a 22 episode season. I think if they did the 13 episode format, so they could trim the narrative bloat, and focus on the important plot points, it would improve the show a bit. I also think it'd help in balancing the budget of the show, meaning more money for each episode, and they can do storylines like the Inhuman's more justice. The shorter season would also maybe have them trim the cast down, hopefully focusing on the more developed ones.
It just seems like in 22 episode shows, not just AoS, there's a lot of filler, with half of the episodes being relevant to the main story. Flash is the same. Although Flash's filler episodes are at least a bit more entertaining. Some shows do filler episodes well, a lot don't.
LegendofDragoonLives
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I'm call it Agents of SHIT now just because people took that poster's joke too seriously. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
BKatastrophe
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AoS basically does the 13 episode format, because they have such long breaks between the first and second half of the season. Same with shows like Once Upon a Time. There's not any filler past S1, and even then there's only maybe one episode of filler because the entire first half is set-up and wheel spinning until Captain America: The Winter Soldier happens, at which point the show kicks it up and gets significantly better. I went back and re-watched S1 not too long ago and it is incredibly, almost unbearably, slow for the first half. And this is coming from someone who has loved the show since day one.
Also Agents of Shield, I feel like, in comparison to other shows, doesn't let plot lines drag out too long. Which in Season 2 and 3, creates a sort of nice quick pace.
Season 2 of Agents of Shield were great, and one of the shows I enjoyed the most last season. S1 was great but I binged that one, so it might have helped out. I'm disappointed with Season 3 so far, the quality have taken a dip, there's too much focus on relationships and the whole Secret Warriors plotline is very slow. It also feels cheap but it has it's own kind of charm, so it's still one of the shows I watch weekly.
Here's a the final cut of the fanmade trailer "The Road to Civil War". It features new footage from the new trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cR6Xa6fEAg&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cR6Xa6fEAg&feature=youtu.be
Irobot82
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Wow that was amazing.
Right in the feels.
I was waiting for the final one to drop. I was considering making a thread on it because of how good it is
That was pretty cool.
LucidMomentum
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This makes me feel the same way I feel reading comics for the eventual big payoff. Great stuff!
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