Is Kotaku in danger of shutting down?

LongMuckDong said:
People losing their jobs and putting families at risk of poverty is good news?
SMH.
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But that shouldn't give companies the opportunity to do what they want. It's imo a good thing that companies can be getting closed when they do too many shady things (i'm talking in general, i don't know gawker).

Yes, it is sad for the people that it affects. There is to hope that they can find jobs at other (more ethical) companies very soon.
 
Was that about the video of him being a racist fuck? So in the end he gets to make money out of this while shutting down other people's jobs that weren't involved in the whole process?
 
cripterion said:
Was that about the video of him being a racist fuck? So in the end he gets to make money out of this while shutting down other people's jobs that weren't involved in the whole process?
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It was about a sex tape, which the court ordered Gawker to take down, but they kept it up. Gawker owns Kotaku among others, so if they go down for this, so will those.
 
These kinds of lawsuits in the US, involving totally unreasonable amounts of money, are just ridiculous.

And man, ignorant posts like these:
Scrublord said:
Good news.
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Some people apparently never snapped out of the old, childish "Kotaku=shit"-mindset.

News to you guys: Kotaku houses some of the best actual games journalists out there. Namely, Schreier, Totilo and Klepek. Its closing would be a huge loss as far as media coverage of hobby is concerned.
 
ashecitism said:
It was about a sex tape, which the court ordered Gawker to take down, but they kept it up. Gawker owns Kotaku among others, so if they go down for this, so will those.
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Oh ok, got it wrong.

Well it's really dumb of them not have listened to a court order. Too bad this has to impact other people's lives because of dumb bullshit like this.
 
The Klepek curse strikes again, everywhere he goes websites shut down someone stop him please! :P

But seriously this is terrible if this really would happen I was just starting to like Kotaku again after like 7 years of not.
 
The ammount of money at stake is ridiculous, I really hope Kotaku doesn't have to shut down over this, I can't say that I fully enjoyed their content but they were starting to put out some interesting pieces recently.

edit: I still think that Gawker is rightfully being punished for invasion of privacy.
 
I like Kotaku and I hope they will be okay. Kind of not popular this opinion around here, but I would like to say this anyway.
 
I don't think it's right for a news site to publish a video of somebody engaging in a private act that they were unaware was being filmed.

It's sad all these sites might close but your anger should really be directed at Nick Denton for green lighting it.
 
cripterion said:
Was that about the video of him being a racist fuck? So in the end he gets to make money out of this while shutting down other people's jobs that weren't involved in the whole process?
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Dude had consensual sex with his friend's wife. His friend secretly recorded him against his will. Someone stole the tape and tried to blackmail him with it. He refused to pay. The blackmailer gave it to Gawker who felt that this man's non-consensual sex-tape was "news" (aka lots of clicks) so they carried out the blackmailer's revenge and posted it on the internet for all to see. And then thumbed their nose at a judge who ordered them to take it down.

During his pillow talk, this old man cried to his sex-partner about how he has racist feelings that he knows are wrong and has never acted upon.
 
Bedlam said:
Some people apparently never snapped out of the old, childish "Kotaku=shit"-mindset.

News to you guys: Kotaku houses some of the best actual games journalists out there. Namely, Schreier, Totilo and Klepek. Its closing would be a huge loss as far as media coverage of hobby is concerned.
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For every good article that casts a spotlight on an unknown game, or delves deep into a beloved game of the past, or shares a story from a game's development that needs to be told, there's something that is complete throwaway trash.

I followed them for a while on Twitter and the schizophrenic approach between genuinely interesting, well-written stuff and really worthless content turned me off.

Latest two tweets: Agent 47 could learn a thing or two from these animal assassins.
That time Marvel Comics had an awful sex demon who wanted to make everyone horny

Come on.

Not saying they should lose their jobs, but holding Kotaku up as some bastion of journalistic excellence is far from the mark.
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned but this thread was merged with another one, so many of the replies people are having problems with like "good" or stuff like that are in response to the thread
"Jury sides with Hulk Hogan in his sex tape lawsuit against Gawker (Kotaku affected)"
and NOT
"Is Kotaku in danger of shutting down?"
Thats how merging two threads works here right? every post gets transferred not only the OP?
 
On the bright side hopefully the Hulk has enough money to where we never have to hear about his racist crybaby ass again.
 
it would suck too see kotaku and lifehacker go down but I'd be lying if I said the prospect of Patrick returning to giant bomb didn't seem appealing
 
I'm glad they're finally getting what they deserve. Leaking a pro wrestler's sex tape is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Gawker's trashy brand of clickbait journalism.

Losing Kotaku would suck but hopefully the people there will be able to find a respectable outlet for their articles.
 
Why such a crazy amount of money? Fair enough the court deems it an invasion of privacy, but how can breaching someone's privacy amount to $115m USD?
 
I'm not really a fan of Gawker Media or Kotaku these days, but this ruling is very unfortunate for the people that are working there and that had nothing to do with it.

Whether Gawker will survive or not is unclear, but I hope Kotaku continues in some capacity regardless.
 
Luq said:
Say what you want about them, but they have great inside sources. Would be shame to lose it.
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It's people that have sources, not an entity. This kind of verdict may even, however unlikely, discourage sources from talking to Gawker employees. Although I don't think that would matter so much for Kotaku employees.
 
Fuck Gawker, empathize with the genuine decent people who happen to work under Gawker. but also Fuck Gawker.

That's basically how the reaction should be.
 
Man. Such conflicting news.

On one side, I'm happy Gawker lost. But I like Kotaku and in the end this will affect a ton of people who have been doing a great job and had nothing to do with this.

Hope they get sold to another company so the manage to survive.
 
I imagine someone else would pick up Kotaku if it goes down.

I have no sympathy for Gawker though after outting someone last year and aiding and abetting blackmail in the process. They've done a lot of scummy stuff, but that was definitely the lowest.
 
AgeEighty said:
That kind of market consolidation makes the sites that are left worth more, not less. It's not as if gaming isn't still a huge industry.

"Other game sites were shut down, therefore all game sites are worthless poison" is not how it works.
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OK, but consolidate with who? And why haven't all these other big bygone sites been bought when they were in danger of closing?

I don't see why someone would buy up all of Kotaku when they could just hire the people they like and probably pay them less. I doubt anyone cares about the name. It's a cold, cruel business and bigger names than Kotaku have gone belly-up before.
 
I know a lot of people feel bad about others losing their jobs, but it needs to be said that those that did good work and still lost their job because their bosses are scumbags will land on their feet. Numerous individuals will have multiple job offers as soon as their Gawker employment is rendered terminated, too. Yes, losing any job has its inconveniences, but when you lost your job through no fault of your own then you won't be punished when you apply for your next job because of that. Also, as I stated, the people that were commended and admired for their work now will have the small luxury of choosing where they will work next.
 
If they are in danger, at least they would leave with a bang after the PS4.5 leak.

Seriously it would be a big loss, I personally think they will be fine.
 
Anyone have any links to examples of investigative game journalism on Kotaku (as opposed to critique, ads, and reposts [of media and news])?

I'll wait.
 
jholmes said:
OK, but consolidate with who? And why haven't all these other big bygone sites been bought when they were in danger of closing?

I don't see why someone would buy up all of Kotaku when they could just hire the people they like and probably pay them less. I doubt anyone cares about the name. It's a cold, cruel business and bigger names than Kotaku have gone belly-up before.
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Kotaku is a pretty unique site in that their review process is different from pretty much anyone else out there and they cover games that are out of the media cycle significantly longer than pretty much any other gaming site out there. Additionally, all their contributors have a certain niche that they stick to which builds a sense of community inside of the site itself.

As for not paying to buy the site, we live in the "brand" age where a name is the most valuable commodity you can have. I used to hate Kotaku but they've gotten a lot better over the last year or two and I'd be sad to see them go. My worry fear with them being sold is going off and pulling a game trailers within 18-24 months, though it's not likely since GT's content was almost entirely video driven.
 
It's a shame the people losing their jobs aren't the ones responsible for the gross invasion of privacy. Instead there is just a shitload of colateral damage because gawker as a whole cares more about clicks than it does about people's privacy and the consequences for employees not involved in such.
 
Yagharek said:
It's a shame the people losing their jobs aren't the ones responsible for the gross invasion of privacy. Instead there is just a shitload of colateral damage because gawker as a whole cares more about clicks than it does about people's privacy and the consequences for employees not involved in such.
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But a lot of them have come out in support of these privacy invasions and against the 'business' that wants to ruin them by forcing them to remove posts like it. Like last year with the Conde Nast debacle. That includes people like Schreier. None of this would be a problem if they had listened back then.
 
If it weren't for Gawker's double standards, I would probably support them. Here's hoping Kirk, Mike, and Luke rebound into another media outlet afterwards since they're the cream of the crop IMO, but I'm guessing another media outlet would probably buy their whole operation intact.
 
Joni said:
But a lot of them have come out in support of these privacy invasions and against the 'business' that wants to ruin them by forcing them to remove posts like it. Like last year with the Conde Nast debacle. That includes people like Schreier. None of this would be a problem if they had listened back then.
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People who defend invasion of privacy are still less culpable than people who actually violate it. People should suffer consequences for actions, not beliefs (however disagreeable).
 
I really hate Gawker Media and Gawker itself, but Kotaku these days has actually turned into a pretty great website. I hope everything works out for them.
 
Wow, ridiclious damage sum. Sad for all the potential jobs lost and double sad for teams only working under the Gawker umbrella and not being directly involved.

In regards to Gawker loosing in general? That's good news, yes.
 
"Just deserts"

This group's policy of making so many controversial baitclick news drove me somewhat mad.

I get that their writers were somehow forced to write that kind of news tho
 
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