from yesterday
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/03/18/sources-say-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5
it's okay to be embarrassed
Is Kotaku in danger of shutting down?
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from yesterday
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/03/18/sources-say-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5
it's okay to be embarrassed
qa_engineer
Member
TIL that 150 million is all it takes to shut down a media company
AnthonypUK
Member
http://kotaku.com/investigation-a-video-game-studio-from-hell-511872642
http://kotaku.com/the-messy-true-story-behind-the-making-of-destiny-1737556731
http://kotaku.com/a-game-industry-layoff-that-didnt-suck-and-four-that-d-1660857291
http://kotaku.com/why-game-developers-keep-getting-laid-off-1583192249
Jason Schreier does plenty.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Really?
One of the few I'd actually call a journalist.
Part of that first article stated that yeah, they plan to appeal, but also stated that the founder dude who is on the law suit, had sold some significant portion of his company in January as additional protection.
I think they will find a way to stay operating. We will see though!
I think they will find a way to stay operating. We will see though!
I just looked this up. Uh, yikes.
Damn. Being compared negatively to BB of all things is pretty harsh.
Got any pieces that were written, uh, this year?
Thank you--and although Kotaku UK is operated by Future Plc, not by Gawker, I'm still going to give you credit for finding this one. I will treasure this as Kotaku's one example of sort of almost obtaining the news
rumor that will never amount to anything
I bet it is, Jason. I bet it is.
Story was written by Patrick Klepek and published on the gawker owned kotaku US, keep moving those goal posts, man.Got any pieces that were written, uh, this year?
Thank you--and although Kotaku UK is operated by Future Plc, not by Gawker, I'm still going to give you credit for finding this one. I will treasure this as Kotaku's one example of sort of almost obtaining the news.rumor that will never amount to anything
I bet it is, Jason. I bet it is.
You do know that actual investigative journalism takes a lot of time right? But I'm sure there are plenty of gaming sites that run pieces like this on a daily basis. I don't even visit Kotaku that often but come the fuck on.
Seems your ploy to be edgy didn't work out for you
metareferential
Member
If Kotaku goes down, the world will be a little bit better. Sad for people losing jobs, though.
ClosingADoor
Member
I fail to see the problem with this article? Articles on a blog style website have plenty of titles with the opinion of the writer in it and there is nothing wrong with it.
I bet it is, Jason. I bet it is.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Not that crazy coming from a GG.
Yes, the world will be truly better after a bunch of people loose their job because now you aren't forced to read their articles on the internet anymore.
I'm not Kotaku's biggest fan but come on man. You tried to be snarky, got called out and embarrassed and now you're moving the goalposts. The Destiny piece is a fantastic example of the kind of work everyone should be doing, being written last year does not devalue it.
God, I hope not. "Our sources, who we won't identify, have informed us that there is a possibility that Sony is exploring an idea. Our fellow colleagues have confirmed that this possibility is possibly true."
Anyway, I don't know what your definition of "a lot of time" is--but I certainly agree that it probably takes more time and creative processes than reposting entire subreddits:
But in Kotaku's eternal defense: They post this stuff because it's what people want. Even on NeoGAF, people are unwilling to put in the two minutes required to actually read a thread's opening post. The majority don't want in-depth editorials all the time--and there's nothing inherently wrong with that; it's mentally draining.
My point is not that Kotaku should change, but that no one is going to be put out on the streets if Kotaku goes under. No one is relying on Kotaku for their income (except a few people at the top). Writing and editing at this kind of outlet just doesn't pay well enough for that--not when 99% of your content is comprised of ads, critique, and second-hand content that could have been published by a computer program.
Lmao stop acting like you give a damn about these people and their jobs.
Indeed.
No matter if you don't like a person, gross invasion of privacy, then breaking a court order telling them to take it down.
To quote the article:
No Gawker, that is a gross mis-repreentation of protection of the press. If Hogan was found to do something disgusting (Like, say, profess his hated of certain races/creeds/parts of society) then yes, that would be fair game for someone with a public persona. Filming someone having sex, and then chucking it on the internet is not journalism, it's tattle tale. Hell, if you wanted to out a cheater, sure, but even then publishing a video like that is beyond the line.
Again, if Gawker just objected but complied with the court order, this wouldn't have happened. Instead, a good site, owned by a bad company is caught in the crossfire.
I'd like to see were you saw this on GAF.
absolutely nothing, because your first post was this:
which has nothing to do with what you just posted. Just take the L.
TatteredHat
Member
For every decent article posted on Kotaku by Schreier there's 2 articles that are shitty clickbait, I hope the better writers there manage to find new jobs but it won't keep me up at night if Kotaku does go down with the cesspit that is Gawker.
One of the biggest unwritten rules of a journalist is to protect your sources.
Educate yourself.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
It's good you know me so well, what else can you tell me about myself? It's like a free visit to a therapist.
But you are right, I don't care at all which is why I choose to comment here.
Guys, nobody cares what you think of Kotaku. Really, it's irrelevant. The question is: are they in danger of shutting down?
I'd personally be more interested if Hulk is the new owner and they're forced to compete in a WWE-style league against other Gawker sites. Winners gets to keep their jobs.
I'd personally be more interested if Hulk is the new owner and they're forced to compete in a WWE-style league against other Gawker sites. Winners gets to keep their jobs.
Well sorry if a hobbyist news site hasn't uncovered a child sex abuse scandal within the past 3 months.
Nice job on moving the goalposts.
DannyDanger
Member
Damn!
Orniletter
Banned
wow some people are just.....
Oh, it's the vile women, who tried to get Alison Rap (the Nintendo employee) fired, after Gamer Gate convinced here of some nonsense again.
Awful person.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Somehow I didn't realize that was her. "Pos" indeed.
No it isn't. This isn't a complicated issue. Klepek emailed her, she responded, he quoted her response. It's exactly what any journalist would have done. Her response was essentially "I don't want to deal with this," and that's what he published.
If she doesn't want to comment, she should have responded with "no comment" or "I won't talk on the record.". She didn't do that, so it's perfectly fair for him to publish her response.
Admiral Woofington
Member
As long as Jason doesn't end up in Polygon. I want him to work at a cool site.
Or make his own. With blackjack and hookers.
Or make his own. With blackjack and hookers.
I just want his podcast with Kirk to continue. But wherever Schreier goes, I will follow.
Kingsora
Would rather have no penis than have to show his to a medical professional
Someone explain me please how it is possible that you get 115 (!) million dollar for a leaked sextape... Only in America, right?
Also, what if they removed the video after a couple of days after first posting it? Would it have been a totally different story then? Or would they still have to pay this crazy amount of money.
Also 115 million, he knows that he will never get that amount of money, he'll probably will only get a fraction of it and 300 people lose their job...? By knowing that and demanding such an amount of money, Hulk is just as bad as the one who released that video, maybe even worse.
American legislation, I'll never get it.
Also, what if they removed the video after a couple of days after first posting it? Would it have been a totally different story then? Or would they still have to pay this crazy amount of money.
Also 115 million, he knows that he will never get that amount of money, he'll probably will only get a fraction of it and 300 people lose their job...? By knowing that and demanding such an amount of money, Hulk is just as bad as the one who released that video, maybe even worse.
American legislation, I'll never get it.
entremet
Member
That judgment is based on lose possible income due to the reputation hits the tape caused. Remember, Hulk Hogan was fired from the WWE effectively after the racist comments, which were found on the tape leaked.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
The bolded isn't his fault. If it happens, that's Gawker's fault for being a shitty site and a shitty employer.
Admiral Woofington
Member
The tape effectively cost him his job and his reputation with a lot of fucking people after the tape showed him saying the n word. Not even apologizing in tears has made some people forgive him . Gawker is the group that condemned leaking 'the fappening' images and everyone who sees them on one site, but was perfectly fine showing the leaked Sony emails and the hulk sex tape. Even so far as to digging their heels when a judge asked them to take it down. They're fucking hypocrites. Some good people losing their job doesn't make me not happy at this decision to fuck them over.
I still like the Hulkinator though. Nobody's perfect.
DasPenguin
Member
Yeah, that's a no.
How about we stop leaking out sextapes of famous people? Is that too much to ask?
I don't know if many are familiar with the SPJ Code of Ethics, but I'm wondering if Pat violated multiple codes while a) printing her denial, and b) not printing her denial in full as she accuses. It's almost as if he confused advocacy with commentary to make his point as well.
Not that I'm armchair quarterbacking. He's the professional journalist and I'm not.
His brand is nice nostalgic cheese but the person? Dude's racist as fuck. Doesn't get a pass from me.
People still don't seem to understand that Kotaku will be sold off before they are at risk of closure. If they are profitable, then chances are someone will buy them. If someone buys them, then they probably won't be shut down. They are required to sell it by law if they declare bankruptcy (under chapter 11). AFAIK Kotaku is still profitable, so I don't think they are at much risk right now.
Its a bond, not a payment. I believe its because you are required to put up a bond for the amount owed, with a cap at 50 million. If you were to win the appeal, you would get it all back.
Its a bond, not a payment. I believe its because you are required to put up a bond for the amount owed, with a cap at 50 million. If you were to win the appeal, you would get it all back.
Scientist Supreme!
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Yeah, it's weird that people do give him one.
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