Poodlestrike
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He's trying to parse Verendus statement to figure out whether or not the SHH thing is legit which he can't do because V. is a clever SOB and the wording is pretty much perfectly ambiguous.
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Batman v Superman Spoiler Thread: Don't believe everything you read, Son
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He's trying to parse Verendus statement to figure out whether or not the SHH thing is legit which he can't do because V. is a clever SOB and the wording is pretty much perfectly ambiguous.
On Community there is the DcEU thread, we're avoiding spoilers there. The OT comes in three days.Is there an official BvS thread non-spoilers ?
If yes, can someone give me the link please
Sibersk Esto
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Indeed, friend.
I haven't said anything except that the synopsis sounded good.
Maybe Warner Bros. is putting out leaks with some spoilers in them to hide the truth for another couple days before all the fans spoil the movie anyway. Would they really do that though? Waste their time like that? It'd be weird.
You mean couple of hours, as the first real spoilers come out after midnight (Mexico premiere). It's not worth it for WB to do such a thing, not now.
Oh god, I'm having flashbacks of the fake Kevin Smith script thrown out to get people off the scent.
It happens.
Schweinehund
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I know the synopsis is fake because they didn't mention Black Adam
denial sucks
That wasn't Smith. I still can't believe reporters ran with it. It was so obviously fake.
lol I know.
My only problem with that plot synopsis is that the "Superman is hated, beaten up and killed in his own sequel" complaints will have merit and then we have to listen to that for a while until Justice League is out.
Regardless of how well it is pulled off.
WrenchNinja
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Lex knowing the identity and not just outright dismissing the idea sucks
Mercy dying is dumb
Bats killing and branding dudes so they can get killed in prison is straight up dumb
Supes dying in the same movie is silly but bringing in Doomsday made it happening a given
I do like that Martha connection though
Mercy dying is dumb
Bats killing and branding dudes so they can get killed in prison is straight up dumb
Supes dying in the same movie is silly but bringing in Doomsday made it happening a given
I do like that Martha connection though
Bobby Roberts
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Huh.
Maybe "This is My World" on the soundtrack is essentially the death, and then the funeral into End Credits (the Batman Suite)
1:57 would be where he collapses after taking out Doomsday, I guess?
edit: yeah, I'm listening to that whole track and it sure as hell sounds like an elegy for Clark.
Maybe "This is My World" on the soundtrack is essentially the death, and then the funeral into End Credits (the Batman Suite)
1:57 would be where he collapses after taking out Doomsday, I guess?
edit: yeah, I'm listening to that whole track and it sure as hell sounds like an elegy for Clark.
BossDarkseid
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I...agree but disagree? Like it's not as if the death is of importance to the audience, but in the summary it's not played that way. It's important in the universe. It's needless because obviously he'll be back for Justice League but if it's Clark Kent's funeral (which would make more sense) then it'd probably mean they might not do a solo Superman film again...which would suck.
As for Marvel killing Cap in Avengers...yeah, it wouldn't work because you know they'd bring him back. If they kill him off at the end of Civil War you still know he'll come back anyway to do his speech vs Thanos in Infinity War. It's significant in universe even if it's not significant to the audience. Imo at least.
I wonder how they will manage the fact that both Clark and Superman died at the same time, it reminds me a bit of TDKRises where it was kind of masked because many people died on Gotham, but here it's a bit too convneient, not to forget there are people on Smallville who know who he is. It also brings the question if Clark will resurrect alongside Superman.
I'm reminded of Big Hero 6. To be fair, I didn't know that Baymax would come back. But I assumed he would, because is obviously a main character and they wouldn't be able to do sequels.
But when he died and sacrificed himself, the tears were flowing. Maybe Bobby has a point though, the character has to display certain characteristics for you to really feel empathy, since Groot, Bay and the Iron Giant are all kind of similar.
But it's all going to be in the execution. If Cavill can pull it off it should be good. Remember, he doesn't know he's coming back to life. That sacrifice is what Superman is all about. And I hope it works.
But now I doubt it's even real because fucking Verendus is being vague!!
But when he died and sacrificed himself, the tears were flowing. Maybe Bobby has a point though, the character has to display certain characteristics for you to really feel empathy, since Groot, Bay and the Iron Giant are all kind of similar.
But it's all going to be in the execution. If Cavill can pull it off it should be good. Remember, he doesn't know he's coming back to life. That sacrifice is what Superman is all about. And I hope it works.
But now I doubt it's even real because fucking Verendus is being vague!!
If BvS hits over a billion there will be a true Superman sequel
BossDarkseid
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Oh yeah. Probably. I just meant although I don't think Clark Kent would NEED to appear in a Justice League movie because Lois is our link to the Daily Planet, it'd be quite odd to not have him in a solo Superman movie. What I do not want is for, if the leak is true, the funeral to be Clark's and for Martha to not be in on it. That'd be too fucking cruel to his mother.
Well it sounds like they all think he's actually dead. There's nothing to be in on
I just can't believe that they would kill off Clark like that. As a new Superman movie watcher I have been looking forward to seeing Cavills Clark. Doing this means we only get Superman now? How many people are going to hate the fact that any Superman solo movie will be missing half of the character. Just seems crazy
But Man Of Steel 2 is happening though.
Schweinehund
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You don't really need Clark Kent for Superman. You probably already know this but that's what they're covering in Truth arc right now for the comics. Lois is already married to him, and like 99% of Clark's shtick is working with Lois and preventing her from finding out he's Superman. The other 1% is hanging around Jimmy and Perry, but I wouldn't consider it integral to what would make a Superman movie good.
Anyway it doesn't mean necessarily mean the extinction of Clark Kent. They could come up with some bullshit like he was taken hostage in Khandaq or something (assuming there is a civil war there, seeing as Lois is reporting in what looks like an arid place), with Bruce Wayne working behind the scenes to make it possible (hiring Mercenaries to pose as terrorists). He's done that a few times, I think his excuse for Death of Superman was that he was trapped under rubble or something equally as stupid lmao.
BossDarkseid
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Oh, I agree it'd suck. It's just if we weren't getting a solo MoS sequel (we are) then Clark isn't really needed in JL.
I haven't really been reading the Truth arc too much, been too busy to read much comics the last couple of months. I agree they could easily come up with an excuse it's just...he's not retiring the Superman role so why bother. We'll see I suppose.
Someone posted a review on letterboxd:
http://letterboxd.com/film/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/reviews/
http://letterboxd.com/film/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/reviews/
That review is more like ramblings of random thoughts
Dude, come on. This is the Batman v Superman spoiler thread, not the Big Hero 6 spoiler thread. I was going to watch that movie eventually. -.-
ViewtifulJC
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When Bats is in the Batmobile chasing the Kryptonite shipment, he swings around a corner and oh shit its Superman
Poodlestrike
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It does, yes.
Dude the movie's a year and half old. There's an expiration date on these things.
They better sell this like some Iron Giant sacrifice or some shit
What if he says "Iron Giant" refering to Bruce's armor ? xD
ViewtifulJC
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If he flies at Doomsday and says, "Iron Giant", I was take back every negative thing I ever said about this movie
Way to be a jerk, a year and a half isn't even that long ago. :|
apologies
But the moment should still be good!
Np I guess, ;_;
"Cut to Gotham, this is the “horror/SE7EN” scene Ben Affleck referred to, its also the ‘Bat Brand” scene. The guy that gets branded is running a human trafficking ring, and the victims are behind bars in a cage. Two police officers find the crime scene, where the girls call Batman “a demon” or “a devil.” One officer finds the branded man and batman, and begins shooting at anything that moves. This cuts to a news reel, revealing that the Batman Brand is basically a death sentence in prison, as its only given to rapists, child molesters, human traffickers, etc. "
Dat batman tradition of killing someone without actually killing him. I love it.
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Lord Virgin
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''Omg Snyder doesn't get Batman either, you fucking hack gtfo Batman is not supposed to kill! And not muh Wonder Woman''
This will happen, I'm sure.
Seeing what Supes is capable of if he decides to go rogue is not reason enough? I mean he saw first-hand the destruction the Zod and Supes fight brought to the city, and that was Superman trying to stop a superpowered being.
This is why I don't like critics reviews, who can actually understand the nonsense that was written there? It's not even a coherent thought, just a bunch of random thoughts thrown together.
BossDarkseid
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Exactly. You could be as stupid about Civil War and say there's no point in Tony and Steve fighting because they'll team up by the end. The Civil War or BvS is almost a McGuffin for the larger plot but important for characters arcs. Imo.
We know by what Cavill said that although they agree to work together, it doesn't mean that they are on good terms with everything. I want that friction to remain, I mean sure they become friends but they have very different point of views on justice and it's not something they will be ok after just one movie and a good beating, it goes deeper than that.
Just hope that doesn't get buried after this movie.
Just hope that doesn't get buried after this movie.
Scientist Supreme!
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Well, you basically said what I going say (as for as batman stuff), so thanks!
I like the idea of the branding, actually. It's one way for criminals to fear Batman.
You know it's always weird how in comics criminals fear Batman, by the 3rd month they'll know that he doesn't kill so why be afraid? But a branding=you are fucked, that's one way to actually get them to fear Batman for real.
I remember in TDK he tries to get one dude to talk, and the dude is like "lol, we know you won't kill. I'm not telling you anything"
You know it's always weird how in comics criminals fear Batman, by the 3rd month they'll know that he doesn't kill so why be afraid? But a branding=you are fucked, that's one way to actually get them to fear Batman for real.
I remember in TDK he tries to get one dude to talk, and the dude is like "lol, we know you won't kill. I'm not telling you anything"
Don't know if that was directed to me but i think this is actually a good concept. There is no freaking way that someone like Batman could operate for years without having killed at least someone.
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Lord Virgin
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Not directed at you no, but yeah I agree. Baleman killed even before he donned the cape, Keaton killed too etc. The no killing rule is dumb as fuck anyway imo.
Messypandas
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Batman fucked Maronis legs up for life in TDK. He's always been brutal.
Poodlestrike
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Sure he could have. He's a fictional character. If he didn't kill anybody he didn't kill anybody.
That scene gets me every time I see it, quite brutal man.
Robot Pants
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Yea seriously. What the fuck was that
Inferno313
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This is not a critic review. Letterboxd is like GoodReads for films.
No critic review would be written so poorly.
Schweinehund
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I'd see Batman killing as a negative. I don't mind Superman killing in MoS because he really had no other choice, and it was in defense of life. If Batman is branding people with the intention that they'll die in prison, then that's too fucked up. That isn't a hero, that's an anti-hero at best. It also makes for shitty story telling considering Joker and his rogues gallery is still walking around.
generic_username
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Yeah agree. Just go up to the breaking bones limit but that's it.
Doesn't Joker and his Rouge gallery mostly end up in Arkham and not prison? And I would doubt that regular prisoners would even think of touching someone like Joker or Two-Face.
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