I think you may underestimate the size of this thing.which situation is more likely?
NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]
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Forgot about tha but I don't see Nintendo using it, not unless this device is iPhone priced. Nintendo like to cheap out on mass produced screens, so I cannot see them jumping in this deep.
TheCongressman1
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Unless you miss the button completely, which is also very common.
If the on screen buttons required it, you wouldn't adjust much. I'd more lean toward there being real buttons on the back.
There's a pair of headphones next to it for scale. I don't think there's underestimation.
About the "I have to look down!??!" Crowd:
They can expand the area of the buttons like this if they wanted to so one glance down when you start the game and you'll know where everything is.
Seems like a non issue. You don't have to look down to see where the ABXY buttons are
Sorry, I just prefer to feel the buttons while I am staring at my TV screen. And what about the d-pad? If this is the controller for the console then they pretty much just went backwards from the Wii U and it will flop like a fish. Who does this target?
jts
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Probably connects his laptop to that Samsung monitor.Have we discussed the HDMI cable?
Could it be connected to the controller? What does the string on the connector say?
Is this some Asian charset?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Nintendo making games appear shorter confirmed.
Yeh, and then Game Y has 3 buttons but they're in different positions and slightly different sizes so then you have to get used to those then and remember where to tap. Bad idea imo.About the "I have to look down!??!" Crowd:
They can expand the area of the buttons like this if they wanted to so one glance down when you start the game and you'll know where everything is.
Seems like a non issue. You don't have to look down to see where the ABXY buttons are
Dark Cloud
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I hope they take a picture of the back of this "controller". I'd really like to see what the back of this device looks like.
Yeah that was my thinking as well. But usually they did these briefings early May, that's why I said May.Rösti;199102428 said:Just for clarification, Nintendo's FY 2015 Financial Results Briefing is tentatively scheduled for April 28, 2016 (JST). I made a countdown a while ago, this corresponds to Pacific time:
And also to reflect what the insider said, Mr. Kimishima said this in the Q&A sesssion of the Third Quarter Financial Results Briefing for Fiscal Year Ending March 2016
Source: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/160203qa/03.html
For them to announce reveal date, final name and if it's a console or handheld during this briefing or even the tentative news conference on April 27 seems reasonable.
Thanks Rösti.
DrROBschiz
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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I know the front of any controller is usually the sex but yeah, I want to see its ass.
(that's where the Vitality Sensor must be)
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Thats how i see it.
Kissenkopf
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It looks rough because it wasn't explained in the patent so the leakers didn't know what to tell their 3D printer to print.
Figured this would be a good exercise. Made a quick UI animation concept:
Hear it with sound for that extra OOMPH.
- Contextual actions/buttons
- Click down on left analog stick for weapon wheel
Hey, I actually really like the look of that. So long as contextual controls are kept out of the area where our hands will obviously cover it up it looks really cool. IF the original image is of a real working device it at least looks like Nintendo is finally giving us a capacitive, rather than a resistance based touch screen. Too flat and glassy looking to be resistance based. Hopefully pressure sensitive like latest iPhones though. I'd actually love it to be 3D but I highly doubt it. I think 3D would work well on such an expansive display, would make the 3D feel more natural rather than boxed into a square 'window' as such. Still don't get the scroll wheel shoulder buttons though... I NEED analogue triggers for racing games. Wonder if there is analogue triggers behind the scroll wheels.
This gif definitely makes me a bit more excited for this, good work!
It's funny how that guy had that concern about camera movement. As if Nintendo doesn't take all those things into consideration. They put out handhelds since the Game & Watch days. I think they know what they are doing after all these years.
Alcotholic
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I've stated it before and I'll state it again, the concept for the Wii U wasnt the issue, the marketing and consumer confusion was.
The worst about this is that every dev can habe their own button layout. How am I supposed to build muscle memory on a flat surface with inputa changing from game to game?
I hope the console comes packed with some normal controller also and this is just a side thing for cool gimmicks.
I hope the console comes packed with some normal controller also and this is just a side thing for cool gimmicks.
Dark Cloud
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It looks rough because it wasn't explained in the patent so the leakers didn't know what to tell their 3D printer to print.
Lol!
TheGreatMightyPoo
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It looks rough because it wasn't explained in the patent so the leakers didn't know what to tell their 3D printer to print.
I demand a picture of them holding it.
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IIRC their patents mentioned games with different aspect ratios (so most older games) would be just rendered in the center of the screen.
(Unless you're just trying to demonstrate the FoV)
James Scott
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Dpad has been used mostly for item switching or small actions like that which can be mapped to the touchscreen.
DrROBschiz
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The 350 price tag was an issue
Software Drought was an issue
Word of Mouth of how it had performance problems out of the gate was an issue
I thought that your fingers don't ever need to leave the thumb sticks. The buttons are in the thumb sticks, but the display on the controller is just like a help menu since it will all be context sensitive. To switch between using a thumb stick to move the camera and select a button, you would have to hold down a button (on the back I would guess), like a shift key. When you think about how we use a controller, we have to move our thumbs up and down from the control stick to the buttons and back again. I think this simplifies the setup so that the control stick acts as both, because you can't do both at the same time currently. I don't think you actually would press any buttons on the screen and you would always know what you were pressing because your hands would never leave the control stick. I just wonder if the control stick can actually feel like buttons or not.
About the "I have to look down!??!" Crowd:
They can expand the area of the buttons like this if they wanted to so one glance down when you start the game and you'll know where everything is.
Seems like a non issue. You don't have to look down to see where the ABXY buttons are
That's because you can feel the buttons (on a normal pad). You have a physical reference.
/mogatu
edit: also if the sides are really going to be this elipse, there's no anchor for your hand to stay in one place, you'll be shifting (even if it's only slightly) in and out of reference space. There's no definition. The only way this would work would be if you're looking at the controller the entire time you're playing. I've tried it on mobile and I despise touch controls. Not swipe, etc. mind you, but controls that try to emulate a real button. For me personally, it's one of the worst trends in gaming in the past couple decades. It's a compromise, not a solution and certainly not an "evolution".
Eh, as much as I love many things Nintendo, no they don't necessarily know what they are doing all the time. The 3DS revision coming with a second analogue nub, additional shoulder buttons and the circle pad on the 3DS are proof enough for that.
Davey Cakes
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After thinking about this a bit, I'm putting myself on #TeamFence.
This could go either way. I know it's apparently just a dev kit but the design is a bit too close to the patent.
I'll continue to keep an open mind.
This could go either way. I know it's apparently just a dev kit but the design is a bit too close to the patent.
I'll continue to keep an open mind.
UnemployedVillain
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Why do people say shit that isn't even true? The 3DS was using a state of the art screen
Alcotholic
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Probably upon release, but the price pretty much dropped to $200 not long after.
I didnt see software drought, personally, but I dont play games all that daily. Perspective, eh? There likely was some drought though.
And all systems of performance issues out of the gate these days. I remember ps3/360 having issues as well as ps4/xbone.
Fine Ham Abounds
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About the "I have to look down!??!" Crowd:
They can expand the area of the buttons like this if they wanted to so one glance down when you start the game and you'll know where everything is.
Seems like a non issue. You don't have to look down to see where the ABXY buttons are
Again, I think this is the entire point of the concept. And it will be similar to using the back touch on the Vita for L3 R3 L2 R2. It's not difficult, no. It's functional. It's just not going to work as well as buttons, and it's not going to blend well with devs who need so many buttons for things you end up with 6 buttons around each stick. How the hell would you play an Arkham game for example on something like this?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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That's as exciting as a fence.
The size of the hands is much bigger in your second pic.
Yeah, they still make dumb handheld choices. I still damn hate the C stick on the New 3DS. Aggravates me no end every time I have to use it.
Not my pic. Still it matches the size of my hands regardless. The first pair are tiny. That might've been the point.
At least the patent is much more towards using the sticks for multiple operations in combination with the context and less using the touch buttons.
James Scott
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Price is part of marketing. Software Drought should be alleviated by a shared library
Nintendo would know enough not to under or over scale. They realized Smash Bros was too small, so they added cell shading to compensate for the hard to see shapes. If Snes was straight ported to NX, it would be centered.
Price is still 250 here in Germany.
But which side of the fence has trees? That's the one you go to.
The gif showing the aspect ratio of the UE4 demo confirmed it was fake.
I think you're right, but here's the thing. Nintendo's not convincing anyone to invest in additional hardware for games everyone is already perfectly happy playing on their phones or tablets. So 1 becomes less of a big deal.
With 2, at this point, they probably won't be getting anything you wouldn't also find on PS4 or PC for a lower price. Either way, games like Final Fantasy or indie titles aren't selling consoles, let alone Nintendo consoles.
So you're left with 3. Which is what they had with the Wii U, and look how that turned out for them...
It just blows my mind that they'd go down the gimmick controller route AGAIN after the market burned them so hard with the Wii U. I was sure they'd try something more traditional this gen just to be safe and get things back on track.
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Mysterious
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Now that I look at it... the camera doesn't really look like a camera. You can't see the lens at all, it just looks straight up like acrylic or whatever material the screen is using here. And it makes zero sense to have a camera on the bottom. It won't capture your face at all, just your body, if you're ever going to use this thing for video chat. There's a reason laptops, all mobile phones, DSi, 3DS, Wii U have the camera at the top. It makes zero sense.
Also if you look closely, the white prototype has a mic hole to the left of the "camera". The black one has no such hole in any of the three photos. Of course it could simply be because it's black, but you can't see any kind of hole/indentation at all.
So where did the mic go?
Yeah, I'm leaning towards Team Fake now.
Also if you look closely, the white prototype has a mic hole to the left of the "camera". The black one has no such hole in any of the three photos. Of course it could simply be because it's black, but you can't see any kind of hole/indentation at all.
So where did the mic go?
Yeah, I'm leaning towards Team Fake now.
Davey Cakes
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I'd rather be boring than invest myself mentally to the idea that this is a real or fake thing.
It's fun to talk about, just like the patents. But "leakers" likely know that our thirst for NX info is real.
And what do carpenters work with? Wood. Where does wood come from? Trees.
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Kissenkopf
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Me too. Otherwise I never believe those leakers. Why taking just photos of that specific angle and not a 360° shot?
Why isn't the device turned on? Whats the point of showing it when it's turned off? Was the leaker in a hurry? Doubt it...so many points just seem so weird.
And why is the leaker so silent now? Why not reveal everything at once and then piss off? No, just reveal a little bit so that no one can say if it's real or not and then never come back. Thats always a sign of the real deal. Not.
You know, iPhones and iPads also don't have microphone holes on the front. Only back and sides.
Wow... Look at Pokken, SMM, Yoshi's Wooly World, and tons of other 2D games on Wii U and 3DS.
To say that the DPad isn't used equally as often as the Left analogue stick is totally unfair. Its the primary input method for tons of games.
Just look at all of the indie games on these platforms. Totally DPad oriented.
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