No. Because even though you've been trained to expect them, Warner Bros. would like you to go fuck yourself. They'll put the stuff most suitable for a post-credits scene in the middle of the movie where it makes no sense.
Batman v Superman Spoiler Thread: Don't believe everything you read, Son
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No. Because even though you've been trained to expect them, Warner Bros. would like you to go fuck yourself. They'll put the stuff most suitable for a post-credits scene in the middle of the movie where it makes no sense.
ryutaro's mama
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Don't mind Subpar. He's just calling people out for their flawed opinions.
It's noble work, really.
bananafactory
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The ridiculous email attachments should have been the post credits stinger. They had no place in the middle of the movie
They're all in the movie, whether they make sense there or not.
Like hell WB is gonna let people miss 3 trailers for upcoming movies.
No shit. I was ready to head out of the theater the second it hit credits, but my group and I were right in the middle of the row and everyone was just sitting there...
Waiting...
ryutaro's mama
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That was some shit you put on the fake website for LexCorp, that you can access in the "restricted files" but not in the middle of an actual film.
Subpar Spatula
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You think he's a monster, asshole, or bully based on his actions. Batman has never really been the picture perfect hero because that's not the world he lives in. You can find fault with that but Gotham is not Metropolis. He's a hero, you just won't accept the iteration. You only re-bundled the "Batman doesn't kill" argument. Batman has always been shady.
It really would have been perfect post credits. Unfortunate that they felt they had to cram it in during the actual film.
ryutaro's mama
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My question is, why did he ask for permission to import when he was just gonna do that shit anyway?
Okay, reading comprehension clearly isn't your strong suit, but I encourage you to keep trying. I believe you'll get it eventually, but as a hint the bolded is the farthest thing from what I'm saying.
Brian_FETO
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I imagine this has been mentioned at this point but:
That was totally Miles Dyson working on Cyborg right? Hilarious
EDIT: Yuuuuup. Haha!
(Loved the movie)
That was totally Miles Dyson working on Cyborg right? Hilarious
EDIT: Yuuuuup. Haha!
(Loved the movie)
Why the hell is Lex Luthor asking anybody for permission to do anything?
ryutaro's mama
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He gonna quote you where he believes that is exactly what you said.
So may strange editing choices. Doomsday is wreaking shit, we get some momentum moving to the climax, and it's all put on hold so Wonder Woman can read her email from Bruce and watch preview trailers of Justice League.
Lois picks up a handful of dirt at Superman's tiny funeral, with Bruce standing there. Cut to Lex getting his head shaved, then to Bruce's weird confrontation with him in prison. Now cut back to the funeral with Lois still holding that dirt from several minutes before. The hell?
Fishburne does his "click his heels together and go to Kansas" line, and any half decent director would cut to Superman in Kansas. But instead it's Lois out in the rain (IIRC?). And then like, two scenes later we cut to Superman in Kansas. Just cut there after the line! It would have been funny and connected the scenes. Instead we get some totally unrelated scenes from different parts of the plot, and then go there when the reference is long past.
The entire movie plays out like this.
Lois picks up a handful of dirt at Superman's tiny funeral, with Bruce standing there. Cut to Lex getting his head shaved, then to Bruce's weird confrontation with him in prison. Now cut back to the funeral with Lois still holding that dirt from several minutes before. The hell?
Fishburne does his "click his heels together and go to Kansas" line, and any half decent director would cut to Superman in Kansas. But instead it's Lois out in the rain (IIRC?). And then like, two scenes later we cut to Superman in Kansas. Just cut there after the line! It would have been funny and connected the scenes. Instead we get some totally unrelated scenes from different parts of the plot, and then go there when the reference is long past.
The entire movie plays out like this.
element
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I always go to local theatre and the usher made sure to tell everyone that there was nothing post credits.
it was schizophrenic at times. I feel the editors need to watch this or go back to school. https://youtu.be/OAH0MoAv2CI
SamualDude
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Another thing. At this point in time I've heard they are doing Aquaman and Cyborg not as origin stories which doesn't really make sense to me. It's origin stories that haven't been explored in live action. I can understand not having a origin story movie for Flash given the TV show but surely the GA would need one for Aquaman and Cyborg?
OmegaSmash
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She saw through his bullshit words and knew he was likely off his knockers. Because she insulted him. Because Batman thinks that Superman was the one that screwed with the disabled guy's pensions (I believe, I'm probably very wrong on that)
bananafactory
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I don't understand why we got a Bruce backstory we've already seen several times, but Wonder Woman's story was ¯\_(ツ
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_/¯It's just straight up bad editing.
The Driver
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Oh yeah man, I can't fault that, I liked the movie but if people found the movie lacking for whatever reason then that's their opinion and they are entitled to it, I was just trying to clear up some of the misconceptions and unfortunately you happened to post about Batman killing thing just as I had finished seeing it again and while it was still fresh in my mind haha.
I agree that the movie does push it with the bleak tone and the fact that the only ray of light comes after Superman croaks and everyone realizes they need to do better must sting, especially for the Superman fans. I'm really hoping that Justice League manages to fully capitalize on this feeling as BvS did with MoS, except you know, actually make everyone a bit closer to their traditional comicbook selves instead of the more tortured versions finding their place or lost in the world here.
They needed to establish Elastigirl as an adversary for Lex, so that Lex had a reason to blow her up. And Lex needed to blow up a senate hearing so that the world could turn against Superman. Or something.
Well, he can, because I certainly do talk about the things he does, yeah, but I feel I've made it clear what makes him so disgusting to me is his mentality. I spent a lot of time detailing that why I have issues with batman that have nothing to do with "but batman doesn't kill!" whining. I don't doubt his copy and paste abilities, it's his reading comprehension that's off.
Frozenprince
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ryutaro's mama
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Great point.
"I was wondering, once I illegally cut the fingertips off this dead Kryptonian, can I illegally enter the restricted alien ship and illegally access it's AI construct to illegally create a monster that will destroy the world?"
Also, why did he create Doomsday...it's not like Doomsday would be loyal to Lex and spare him or whatever...he's a mindless monster, after all.
Subpar Spatula
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You've said your point, it was obvious because you prefaced it with "but it supports my point":
I've answered your point. You just don't want to accept it because "BATMAN DOESN'T KILL". Batman's a shady dude who prowls around at night, breaks arms, legs, jaws, ribs, feet, hands, etc.
He's never cared if bad people are collateral deaths. He doesn't mourn them because he rationalizes it as, "you were bad and you died by your dumb bad ways". That's his shtick, he's not going to shoot you in the head but he's not going to care if you get in a car chase with him and you fall into the river and drown. Your car is also up for dibs if you crash by being in his way.
Welcome to Batman, he's been around for decades.
sketchsanchez
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Why are people in this thread saying batman has killed the joker? When was that confirmed?
Subpar Spatula
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Joker's not dead since he's in Suicide Squad and it's not a prequel. Or is it?
DANANANANAA
broncobuster
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Because doing it illegally attracted Batman's attention, who stole the kryptonite. Which may have been the reason Lex resorted to Doomsday. Admittedly, that part isn't clear.
Auto-Reply
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One could argue that they put the post credit scenes into the middle/end of the movie, on the laptop and in Batmans dreams.
PhantomZone
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Joker is missing / feared dead and the Jared Leto Joker is really Jason Todd
It makes perfect sense, you're avoiding the direct Heath Ledger Joker comparison and going in a twisted direction.
Subpar Spatula
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But then who was damaged?!
Nope, that is literally not what I wrote, but if you can't comprehend how the single line you quoted fits the context and figure out that I am talking about Batman's mental state vs Batman's actions, then I don't know what to tell you. Literally, I don't know what to write here, because you're problem is you can't read and comprehend, so how can I communicate with you through writing?
Though, it's funny that you think you're enlightening me to Batman's history when I've been reading comics for this past decade and can tell you that what you describe sure as fuck isn't anything like what Batman is like.
I don't think you can replace Tim with Alfred. Bruce's mental and emotional redemption comes from being a dad. Take that away, and even Alfred can't save him.
And I know it's dumb, but it's something that a lot of Batman writers in various media (including Miller) usually overlook or just don't care about exploring. Usually because it involves acknowledging the Robins as characters and Bruce as something other than a "crazy" manchild still obsessed with just his parents.
I think the only reason it's in this movie or as a motivation is because of how "dark" it is on the surface. So many people think Robin is shit as a character and unnecessary so it's cool and gritty and realistic that he's dead and Batman went crazier because of it.
Would Jared Leto really sign up to play fake joker
ryutaro's mama
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Except when you realize that Jared Leto is just as old as Afflack, give or take a year.
Well, he could always just be playing someone younger. I really hope you're right though.
ryutaro's mama
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It's not like audiences know that. Jesse Eisenberg is the same age as Henry Cavill but Eisenberg can still convincingly play fairly young characters and I doubt many view the characters here as meant to be the same age.
Just got out from my viewing and I really don't think the film deserves the amount of hate it's getting.
With that said, it was an okay movie with some pacing issues and definitely not a very good setup for Justice League.
The things the film did great were:
- Wonder Woman. I knew she would be good and it's shitty people didn't even wait to give her a chance. Her theme song was my favourite.
- Ben Afflek was a fantastic batman
- Louis helping out a lot was really nice to see
- Alfred was great
Now the biggest problems for me come down to pacing, Lex Luthor's obnoxious Joker impressions and Superman just being overall boring in a movie that mainly involves him. Also the batman killing thing was exaggerated in reviews but it's still annoying that he broke his rule.
With that said, it was an okay movie with some pacing issues and definitely not a very good setup for Justice League.
The things the film did great were:
- Wonder Woman. I knew she would be good and it's shitty people didn't even wait to give her a chance. Her theme song was my favourite.
- Ben Afflek was a fantastic batman
- Louis helping out a lot was really nice to see
- Alfred was great
Now the biggest problems for me come down to pacing, Lex Luthor's obnoxious Joker impressions and Superman just being overall boring in a movie that mainly involves him. Also the batman killing thing was exaggerated in reviews but it's still annoying that he broke his rule.
Subpar Spatula
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I even quoted your point and it is exactly "Batman's mental state vs Batman's actions. I will re-quote you:
If you don't think that's your point that you posted then you're not understanding yourself, but, please, be another person to just dodge it all and say I can't read well. It seems my response has riled up the jimmies in others.
Snyder knows that Lex is supposed to oppose Superman's very existence. But he doesn't know why. He literally has no clue. He just knows that stuff is supposed to happen between these characters and is just trying to make it happen no matter what.
I wish there was more Lois and Clark in this film. Especially since they are going for the Superman = Lois and Clark thing. It ties together back nicely to MoS when Martha Kent is comforting a young Clark.
Lois now is that island, she's his whole world and makes sure this Clark doesn't get lost to all the fear and suffering in the world. But I wish there was more of it in this film.
And with that I thought the shot of the dead Superman pretty great. Between God (WW) and man (Batman) it isn't Superman that's laying there but Lois and Clark.
Lois now is that island, she's his whole world and makes sure this Clark doesn't get lost to all the fear and suffering in the world. But I wish there was more of it in this film.
And with that I thought the shot of the dead Superman pretty great. Between God (WW) and man (Batman) it isn't Superman that's laying there but Lois and Clark.
PhantomZone
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I'm sure Snyder would come up with an explanation that won't make sense but it will still explain it lol.
He looks like a 20 year old could pass for Jason Todd easily
bananafactory
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I actually love the track, but it's hilariously out of place in the context of this movie.
broncobuster
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Subpar Spatula
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Stupid sexy Joker.
ryutaro's mama
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Hahahaha. Perfect.
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