WaterAstro
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Not sure if it's been posted yet:
It has been an honour, and a privilege, to post with yall. I'll be very sad on the day this thread dies.
All these posts contain reasons why they like Iron Man 3 and Thor 2.
Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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All these posts contain reasons why they like Iron Man 3 and Thor 2.
Discotheque
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yeah way too high tbh. i'm ashamed.
Yo Iron Man 3 is good.
BronsonLee
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Easy there sonny, no one has to get hurt.
BronsonLee
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*fumbles around, hastily lights match next to gas tank*
broncobuster
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Hey, anybody hear BronsonLee has 124 posts in this thread? 124 posts! That's 124 posts from BronsonLee. That's as many as twelve tens.
BronsonLee
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You son of a bitch
*projectile vomit*
I legit don't even remember posting that much though. Did I black out and just go on a posting spree of death?!
Vampirolol
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Just please stop comparing this pile of garbage with Iron Man 3. The only sin of that movie was having edgy trailers and endgy fans that wanted dark knight Mandarin. As a movie is so fucking good and at worst you could say it follows the basics of storytelling. BvS is Star Wars prequel level of madness.
Vampirolol
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1 and 3 yes.
It's currently on the front page of the Daily Fail, at least here on the UK site
You've lived long enough for you to become the villain!!
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
That is the first time I've heard someone describe Iron Man 3 as "so fucking good."
Oh come on, thats not true.
DonMigs85
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I thought it was somewhat decent, but it overstayed its welcome and I also don't like manic, unhinged Lex. Batfleck and Jewish Diana were good though. It also lacks the humor and wit of most of Marvel's films. Oh and Doomsday looks like El Gigante from RE4 before and after he fell in the lava.
Lifejumper
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3 is tho. 1 and 2... not sure.
There isn't a single scene in Episode 3 or any of the prequels where I could say "That scene was okay" or "that would've been way more effective if they had just cut or tweaked this last line" or something. I could say that instead for atleast enough parts of BvS that I'd say it's inherently way better than any of the prequels. Those needed almost complete rewrites from the bottom-up.
The Fighting in the War Room Podcast on this was a very good listen for me. They all hated it, but I liked the discussions.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I wanna see the Iron Man 3 you saw then.
Monocle
Member
Hey, you can't mention good superhero movies in here.
I'm going to see this today, but is there any chance that the directors cut does for this what it did with Kingdom of Heaven, where it makes an aggressively mediocre film into a pretty cool one?
Like is this all Snyder or is it possibly the studio fucking around with his movie as well?
Like is this all Snyder or is it possibly the studio fucking around with his movie as well?
I dont think that another 30 Minutes will do this movie any favor
OK. Bummer. That sucks. I hope I like this movie but I'm going in worth my guard up.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The most you can hope for is a completely new edited version of the movie that paces it out better. The puzzle pieces are all there it's just not assembled correctly.
I'm late with this, but...
This is a very odd definition of "throwing" someone into the propeller as some were saying Cap did, because I'm not seeing that here (he kills on occasion, as one would expect of a WWII soldier, but that guy getting blended was his own fault).This is what he's talking about.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I don't remember this scene in the movie at all. Was this in some Directer's Cut?
Ditto. One of the most fun Marvel movies.
Went in with low expectations and this managed to fail to meet them. Unbelievable that there was ever positive impressions from this, the whole thing is a chaotic mess with no rhyme or reason.
Diana was ok but had a total of like 7 minutes screen time.
Extremely disappointed.
Diana was ok but had a total of like 7 minutes screen time.
Extremely disappointed.
Lol people are reaching this far now?
One guy hangs on (Cap) and one fails to and gets minced and it's a push?
Also while I know close to zero about comic tone for Cap he's a soldier in WW2. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if he kills in that context. It would be like expecting Indiana Jones not to kill.
The whole killing thing s a red herring anyway. The issue is weak narrative, weak script, some very uneven performances, mediocre editing and some frankly bizarre cuts, and some of the poorest, laziest internal logic I've had to endure since a Bay transformers film. This movie is a textbook for the evil of not having any internal logic or consistency for your characters behaviour or how the plot progresses.
One thing that is accurate with this GIF is BvS is exactly like the results of that guy going through the prop: a bloody mess.
Imperfected
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If you're actually serious...
Ethically, considerations for self-defense and reasonable escalation of force have to take into account the capabilities of the person in question. A little old lady being accosted by a group of five thugs is more justified using a weapon and potentially deadly force to defend herself than a three hundred pound 20-something with a group of five friends who gets punched in the face by a 12 year old, right?
Captain America has limited options in that scene for dealing with the situation without killing the person.
Superman has effectively unlimited options for dealing with most situations without killing anyone. He's always going to face more scrutiny as a result. The argument for him killing Zod is one you can make; the argument for him pasting a normal criminal with a gun (rather than just, you know, melting the bolt on the gun with light-speed heat vision or something) is almost completely impossible to manage.
Batman
is easily the worst in this, because he actively chooses to apply a death sentence when it is no longer a case of necessary self-defense. He's a straight-up murderer and the methodology used is moral narcissism and blatant cowardice of the most disgusting variety.
crazyrabbits
Banned
I... I'm at a loss.
I need a couple days to collect my thoughts before I talk about this.
I need a couple days to collect my thoughts before I talk about this.
Another fallen soldier..take a recup and report after hopefully feeling better in the next couple of days.
DonMigs85
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Hit some tires with a sledgehammer, you'll feel better
I think the actual argument about whether Superman or Batman should or should not kill is boring. It is so boring that the only thing more boring is the static depiction of Superman as a total boy scout with perfect morality. Why is the argument boring? Because it doesn't matter. character changes in adaptations can always be justified if the writing is good enough and if there is a good point being made. The problem isn't that a superhero kills people, the problem is when there is a disconnect between a character's actions and how those actions are depicted. Just like how the problem with MoS' ending isn't that Superman kills Zod. That in itself can be justified. It is how the scene was depicted that is laughable.
True when i watched MoS and seeing supes killing zod i was like what the hell happend?
Looks like i am going tomorrow morning non 3d..i hate 3d these day but i need to see it i want to express my feelings after watching this movie.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
I think the audience scores say all that is needed about critics and this film.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
That blind fanboys will sandbag a big movie's user score if the critic's reviews don't match up with their expectations for the film before they've even seen the film themselves?
DrROBschiz
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I agree with this!
We need the drop the whole "hero never kills" schtick
Its ok to explore other themes. Daredevil and Arrow have been wearing me out with this shit
Funny though that seeing Batman slaughter guys took me off guard at first. Some shit is just so ingrained
The Raid movies were where the audience lost their shit. The best kills in both movies had the audience losing their shit. The Mad Dog fight at the end of the first one, the doorway scene,the car reversing in Raid 2, the use of a baseball bat near the end of Raid 2.
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