Captain America: Civil War - Final Trailer

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The MK 42 is a humpty dumpty of an armor that literally breaks into pieces at his feet the moment the battle seems lost, then barely puts itself together to try and save the day. It works at a visual and thematic level. And to sell many toys.
FTFY.
 
Tony's Civil War suit isn't the same from the end of AoU, is it? That's ugly but Civil War's is quite nice. Can't tell if the presentation that's helping.
 
The Hulkbuster suit makes sense, but the suit switch in the final third of Age of Ultron was probably the most gratuitously dispensable one of the entire IM/Avengers series. At least in previous films they gave a reason, no matter how flimsy, as to why Tony switches to a new suit. AoU didn't even try. A throwaway line would've sufficed.

I'm willing to bet that most general audiences didn't notice the difference. If I weren't such a nerd about these things, I doubt I would've either, they're fairly similar at a glance.
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^ but looking at them closely, I wish they had just had Tony use the newer suit on the right for the entire movie. It's slick as hell.
 
The Hulkbuster suit makes sense, but the suit switch in the final third of Age of Ultron was probably the most gratuitously dispensable one of the entire IM/Avengers series. At least in previous films they gave a reason, no matter how flimsy, as to why Tony switches to a new suit. AoU didn't even try. A throwaway line would've sufficed.

I'm willing to bet that most general audiences didn't notice the difference. If I weren't such a nerd about these things, I doubt I would've either, they're fairly similar at a glance.
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^ but looking at them closely, I wish they had just had Tony use the newer suit on the right for the entire movie. It's slick as hell.

What's it matter? And you know the armor was probably tweaked after facing Ultron in the ship so that it was better suited for battle.
 
What's it matter? And you know the armor was probably tweaked after facing Ultron in the ship so that it was better suited for battle.

It matters because I like the technical details and want to know what differentiates them beyond just mere asthetics.. If there was a reason, I wanna know why. It's as simple as that.
 
That was my take. They kinda "showed" it when he switched the armor interface to Friday. Other than that, yeah, it was not explained and there was seemingly no point. I liked Mk 45 it a lot tho, the other I thought looked awful from the very first set pics, so it was a welcome change.

She is played by Kerry Condon by the way. I kinda wonder if she'll be the voice from now on... heck, even if they have any other plans for her.
 
It matters because I like the technical details. If there was a reason, I wanna know why. It's as simple as that.
I get the feeling that there was a deleted scene where Ultron takes over Tony's armor. That's why the Hot Toys figure has a "Battle Damaged Head with red eyes". That's probably also why the armor change feels so extraneous. A change like that is bound to feel unnecessary when you remove the reasoning behind it.
 
Iron Man 2 was actually pretty good about the power increase. They gave him the one off after all. Age of Ultron was the worst about the armor though. There was no justification, outside of toy merchandise sales, for him to upgrade his armor. That was really when I thought they jumped the Iron Man armor shark. Iron Man 3 came close to pushing it though, where a lot of the armors were functionally similar but aesthetically different.

Tony is an engineer at heart, the blue prints in his head is always 2 versions ahead of what he has on.
 
The Hulkbuster suit makes sense, but the suit switch in the final third of Age of Ultron was probably the most gratuitously dispensable one of the entire IM/Avengers series. At least in previous films they gave a reason, no matter how flimsy, as to why Tony switches to a new suit. AoU didn't even try. A throwaway line would've sufficed.

I'm willing to bet that most general audiences didn't notice the difference. If I weren't such a nerd about these things, I doubt I would've either, they're fairly similar at a glance.
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^ but looking at them closely, I wish they had just had Tony use the newer suit on the right for the entire movie. It's slick as hell.

Where are those suits from? They look really great. I only noticed the change from Iron Man 1's suit to Iron Man 2's suit.
 
I get the feeling that there was a deleted scene where Ultron takes over Tony's armor. That's why the Hot Toys figure has a "Battle Damaged Head with red eyes". That's probably also why the armor change feels so extraneous. A change like that is bound to feel unnecessary when you remove the reasoning behind it.

I had no idea what you were referring to so I looked it up. Huh, this is really interesting.
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Nothing on the AoU blu ray about a cut scene with the red eyed helmet?

also, that's a nice looking action figure.

Where are those suits from? They look really great. I only noticed the change from Iron Man 1's suit to Iron Man 2's suit.

Age of Ultron. The one on the left is the same as the main suit from Iron Man 3, just with a repaint.
 
I get the feeling that there was a deleted scene where Ultron takes over Tony's armor. That's why the Hot Toys figure has a "Battle Damaged Head with red eyes". That's probably also why the armor change feels so extraneous. A change like that is bound to feel unnecessary when you remove the reasoning behind it.
There's a deleted scene where Tony overnights a chip to Rhodey that prevents Ultron from taking over their suits.
 
There's a deleted scene where Tony overnights a chip to Rhodey that prevents Ultron from taking over their suits.
Oh wow. So there's a very high chance that there's a cut scene of Ultron taking over his suit for them to write a reactionary scene like that.
 
I had no idea what you were referring to so I looked it up. Huh, this is really interesting.
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Nothing on the AoU blu ray about a cut scene with the red eyed helmet?

also, that's a nice looking action figure.



Age of Ultron. The one on the left is the same as the main suit from Iron Man 3, just with a repaint.
There's also a promo art for the movie that gave the indication that Ultron would have taken over the Mark 43 suit.

Seems like it was something that would have explained the switch in suits but it got cut.

 
My guess is that the angle used to be that Ultron took over the suit and was pretending to be Iron Man, therefore everyone started hating IM and they somehow turn it around later. Then a bit through maybe plans for Civil War changed or solidified and they switched it around to Ultron taking over the damaged Stark drone to taunt the Avengers to set Tony up in a more desired path re: the public for Civil War.
 
If Ultron did take over all of the Iron Man armours and Tony had to go armourless again like in IM3, MacGyvering weapons together, that'd probably be a better movie.

Plenty of caves and boxes of scrap in Sokovia, I bet.
 
There's also a promo art for the movie that gave the indication that Ultron would have taken over the Mark 43 suit.

Seems like it was something that would have explained the switch in suits but it got cut.

This could've been really interesting and yeah it'd have fixed my issue with the unexplained suit switch.

I can see how it could've affected the flow of the film (or subsequent films), so it's understandable if it was cut for that reasonn.
 
New image:

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“Steve’s become the caretaking parent and Bucky is more of an unstable child now — someone who’s really struggling to have more of a sense of identity and is totally lost and confused with who he is.”
 
There's also a promo art for the movie that gave the indication that Ultron would have taken over the Mark 43 suit.

Seems like it was something that would have explained the switch in suits but it got cut.

I think that's just an allusion to Tony being the creator of Ultron.
 
His Winter Soldier stealth suit for reference:


The AOU suit was already a derivation of that, and the Civil War suit is kind of a hybrid of the AOU and stealth suits. They've gotten to a good place with Cap's suit.
 
Where are those suits from? They look really great. I only noticed the change from Iron Man 1's suit to Iron Man 2's suit.

One on the left is a tweaked version of the main Iron Man 3 suit used in Age of Ultron. One on the right is for the final battle of Age of Ultron.
 
His Winter Soldier stealth suit for reference:



The AOU suit was already a derivation of that, and the Civil War suit is kind of a hybrid of the AOU and stealth suits. They've gotten to a good place with Cap's suit.

The only fuck up overall is Cap's Avengers outfit, where they didn't add a chinstrap to the cowl. It's good without the cowl otherwise.

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Winter Soldiers' stealth suit to modified WWII suit is one of the rare occurrences of a costume change tying into the themes of the story. I appreciated that. Most times it's that Batman & Robin, change for merchandising sake.
 
Aren't we going to get a new costune for cap in civil war, with the chain mail look? Or am I just dreaming that up?

There have been some product/publicity art which features Cap wearing the scale mail.
I'm guessing he gets it
after Black Panther joins Team Cap.
 
There have been some product/publicity art which features Cap wearing the scale mail.
I'm guessing he gets it
after Black Panther joins Team Cap.
The chainmail look is probably stuff they prototyped but never used. Remember that Avengers Cap promo art that showed his ears?
 
Chain mail look? What is this?

I also accidentally clicked on that spoiler. Stupid me.

I don't think that's an actual Spoiler. Although considering the character
Its pretty much guarantee that Black Panther doesn't really care about Tony's argument or the accords, and he just allied with him because their goals align. He seems to be after Bucky specifically, which is why he is against Cap.
 
I don't think that's an actual Spoiler. Although considering the character
Its pretty much guarantee that Black Panther doesn't really care about Tony's argument or the accords, and he just allied with him because their goals align. He seems to be after Bucky specifically, which is why he is against Cap.
That was a spoiler though. As I had no idea
that Black Panther would switch teams
. I'm not reading your spoiler either sorry. :)

[edit] okay I read your spoiler. All of that is obvious yes.


Here's some chain mail:

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Yeah I remember that image. I don't see any difference? Is it the grey on his shoulders?
 
That was a spoiler though. As I had no idea
that Black Panther would switch teams
. I'm not reading your spoiler either sorry. :)

[edit] okay I read your spoiler. All of that is obvious yes.

That's the thing though, I am saying is that poster's spoiler is speculation and not something that will happen. It
could
happen, but I think it was just speculation.
 
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