LyleLanley
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Bradley is indeed more of a shooting guard than a point guard.
Steph Curry Supernova
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Gully State
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What I didn't really notice was how deceptively strong Steph is at bodying up guys trying to post him and how he never hesitates to box out bigs even if it isn't his check (he's always been a good rebounder at the guard position).. All that dead lifting really paid off.
he's an elite team defender though
Isiah Thomas would be an elite team defender if he was on the warriors. Your point is moot and means jack all.
And Coach Nick is one of the biggest Warrior nitriders so I'd take his ridiculous claim with a grain of salt
I think Curry or anyone could be an elite defender if they could get away with the contact CP3 gets away with.
That said I agree with you.
Frozenprince
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I'll never understand how CP3 gets carte blanche to use his hands and body in as much as he does.
LyleLanley
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I assume you mean Isaiah Thomas and I would like to tell you that he is an elite defender. https://streamable.com/2kvh
the film don't lie
beat
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Elite team defense isn't just about having other good defenders on the floor with you. It's about proper positioning, help and recovery. Anyone on the floor can be bad at it and it weakens the entire defense even if the rest are good defenders who are executing a good scheme well.
Gully State
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Did you watch the video? Did you take a look at his defensive numbers? I don't think it's a stretch to argue based on everything that Curry is an elite defender at the pg position.
Exploratory
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Sports is like religion. People believe what they want and that's up to them. The only difference is that the disbelief of the facts are just out and out wrong.
Basically you can show someone 100000 videos of Curry playing great defense and you can show them the stats but people will believe whatever they want at the end of the day. Especially for Curry because if people admit he's a good defender then that puts him into top 10-20 all time range and many people aren't ready for that.
Basically you can show someone 100000 videos of Curry playing great defense and you can show them the stats but people will believe whatever they want at the end of the day. Especially for Curry because if people admit he's a good defender then that puts him into top 10-20 all time range and many people aren't ready for that.
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Curry is mediocre at best on defense.
he's actually been very good at worst these past two seasons
LyleLanley
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I agree, Curry is trash on defense. The same goes for his offense.
Gully State
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All your stats and clips don't fit my narrative...therefore, invalid.
I think some people see "elite" and freak out like Nick is saying he's Gary Payton.
All he's really saying is that Curry is intelligent, usually in good position off the ball, and gives good effort on the ball. That doesn't mean he can't get beat or that he's on point 100% of the time.
All he's really saying is that Curry is intelligent, usually in good position off the ball, and gives good effort on the ball. That doesn't mean he can't get beat or that he's on point 100% of the time.
Fennec
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http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/defense-per-game/sort/avgPointsOpponent
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/defense
You want me to believe Curry is "very good at worst" at defense when his team gives its opponents 105ppg and has given more points than the Knicks and the Bucks since the start of the season?
Yeah right...
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/defense
You want me to believe Curry is "very good at worst" at defense when his team gives its opponents 105ppg and has given more points than the Knicks and the Bucks since the start of the season?
Yeah right...
Gully State
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Of course he isn't Gary Payton...he's Michael Jordan...
ok I'm kidding...but Steph's a really good defender now.
Gully State
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They play at a faster pace than the rest of the league (thus more possessions).. Opposing fg% is the more accurate stat...
That's the result of fast-paced gameplay. Their opponents get lots of possessions because the Warriors score so much.
Also Curry is due for a big game, he's been slouching the last week or two.
This is trolling, right? People who have serious basketball discussions in 2016 understand pace of play and why per game stats are worthless, right?
Opponent PPG
Warriors are fifth in defensive efficiency, much more useful indicator of defense (and even that is imperfect when we're talking about an individual's defense).
You just got wrecked, son
You expect us to take your argument seriously when you don't seem to understand why modern sports analytics provide pace-adjusted numbers?
Yeah right...
LyleLanley
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THE WARRIORS ARE TRASH! Steph is overrated.
Stabby McSter
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TRASH ASS TEAM
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;'(
LyleLanley
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Jordan wouldn't have missed that.
Dr Duncan Steel
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Bad Luck Brian's first Warrior game!
80s Bad Guy
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Woo! This young Boston team made an all time statement tonight. Best regular season game of the year. Wish I was with Simmons.
Hope my 76ers can show such heart in the next 100 years. Curry sucks. Peace out!
Hope my 76ers can show such heart in the next 100 years. Curry sucks. Peace out!
Us fans don't get overly caught up in the moment or anything?
LyleLanley
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My boy Isiah
Isaiah. Show some goddamn respect to the best point guard to play tonight.
CassidyIzABeast
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Jordan would have made that wide open 3
LyleLanley
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Now that Curry has been exposed do you guys think he gets traded this summer?
Austin Rivers for Curry.
Jack The Nipper
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They really should have lost the Utah game but missed rebounds and dropping back the three line a bit before on curry lost it in the 4th.
Should be interesting to see how San Antonio goes.
Should be interesting to see how San Antonio goes.
LyleLanley
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WHO SAYS NO?
Elfforkusu
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Those last 4 loom large right now:
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Feels like 50/50 as to whether they get 72 or 73.
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Feels like 50/50 as to whether they get 72 or 73.
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