Lister
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Doubt it. The ps4 and xbone releasing after a super long console cycle had no effect on the continued incredible growth of pc gaming, steam and or pc gaming hardware
Is the PS4K a threat to PC gaming?
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Doubt it. The ps4 and xbone releasing after a super long console cycle had no effect on the continued incredible growth of pc gaming, steam and or pc gaming hardware
DrROBschiz
Member
Its subjective
depends on the needs, desires, and budget of the person considering the product
Chairmanchuck
Member
Another thing that will be good is, that the games are not moddable. So we wont get any anime girls in our games. I mean mods are totally destroying what the developer had in mind!
Netherscourge
Banned
Nothing but exclusive games are a threat to other platforms.
If anything, 4K itself is only a threat to 1080 TVs/monitors. But that's about it.
If anything, 4K itself is only a threat to 1080 TVs/monitors. But that's about it.
PC is gaming growth is seriously overstated because of a handful of F2P games. I don't think anyone can deny that. Most people also don't care about graphic and modding, that's the reality.
Anyways, I knew my opinion would be unpopular here. Gaf is seriously out of touch with the general world, especially outside the western sphere. I am done here.
Anyways, I knew my opinion would be unpopular here. Gaf is seriously out of touch with the general world, especially outside the western sphere. I am done here.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Well I assumed PC gamers upgraded later in gen. Not rebuild their whole PC, so it'ss probably still cheaper for them to stay PC gamers.
PS4K is no threat to PC gaming the way I see it.
PS4K is no threat to PC gaming the way I see it.
ieptbarakat
Member
A PS4K would actually be beneficial to pc gaming, console ports of games that use the added power for any graphical features would have no reason not to use them for their pc versions if previously unavailable. Basically parity would be less of an issue.
Why would they sell secret new hardware at a discount price to Console creators instead of selling it at a margin to take back market share from Nvidia?
You think Nvida cares about console contracts with their marketshare? You think AMD makes much money from them?
Chairmanchuck
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mugurumakensei
Member
nah, pcs primary strengths are outside of its power. You can change OS. You can change DLLs to modify the behavior and patch in functionality the devs never intended. Modding is easier on PC. You also have the advantage of being able to do all your productivity stuff.
PS4K from rumors just narrows the gap between top of the line PC and PS4.
PS4K from rumors just narrows the gap between top of the line PC and PS4.
C'mon man, so please explain why anyone should bother with a 4K capable console then.
You're killing your own argument here. Pls calm down...
The only thing out of touch here are people seriously thinking a Playstation with slightly better graphics will somehow invalidate all of the PC's strenghts that don't have anything to do with graphics.
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Especially when according to you most people don't even care about graphics. You're contradicting yourself.
God that you're done tho, good riddance.
Mr.Marston
Member
No idea but I'll definitely be buying one.
A PS4 that can run existing games at higher levels? Sign me up
A PS4 that can run existing games at higher levels? Sign me up
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Thankfully I can't say I've seen it. Would be amusing to see the responses though.
Netherscourge
Banned
The PS4 could upgrade to mandate 4K resolutions and maybe 75+FPS to give PC gamers a run for their money, but so long as there is a ripoff service like PS+ blocking online gameplay, PC gamers will have the edge.
Get rid of the internet tollbooth and then we can talk about threats.
Get rid of the internet tollbooth and then we can talk about threats.
DieAntwoord
Banned
There is a ton of PC games that never makes it to consoles.
Strategy games is just one example.
Thank you for reminding me of this comic lol
Lord Radik
Member
For the folks who understand systems-on-a-chip, how far away are AMD, Nvidia and Intel from making something that could realistically run games at 4k? I thought that the Tegra chips were a bit ahead of everyone else but I don't think Sony or Microsoft are jumping off from AMD at this point. I look at the Nvidia Shield console as a possible route Sony might take. The UI and video apps like netflix and amazon will run at 4k, but for gaming, not even close.
It is already the case.
PS4K would only mimic what PC versions do right now, probably with less power.
SmartWaffles
Member
PC gaming is already on the widespread adoption of UHD resolution and 120Hz+ refresh rate.
That was kinda my point.
LegendofLex
Member
In order to be "like a console" the defining selling point of the system would have to be that the hardware itself is enabling software that would not be possible without the unique hardware (in other words, that couldn't be done on a typical PC, specs aside). Merely having a set of specifications doesn't really qualify something as a console, otherwise everyone's PC configuration would be a console.
NES set itself apart as a machine because it had a controller that wasn't anywhere else. It also had cartridges that could come with their own unique technology packed in, like the Zelda save chip. Likewise for SNES.
It's kind of laughable to suggest that either PlayStation or Xbox is taking this approach to hardware right now, because the vast majority of their libraries consists of PC ports that have no relationship to hardware whatsoever (again, aside from specs). The controllers are for the most part standardized, and the controller bits that PlayStation has that Xbox doesn't (touchpad, lightbar - which functions like a mouse in practice) are basically just stolen from PCs. The hardware is now being built using mostly off-the-shelf PC parts, not specialized architectures like we saw historically.
The main difference between these consoles and PCs is that the hardware isn't modular, and therefore all games released for the system must run at the same spec. On a different level, they're both closed ecosystems, meaning you must buy a PlayStation or Xbox to run PlayStation or Xbox games.
But functionally, looking at the way the hardware and software are designed, and the way the systems are positioned as development machines? They're just out-of-the-box PC configurations that don't require the end user to manage specifications and settings.
2 of them, and one in backup in the box.
Hilarious that you think you can lecture about "reality" when every conceivable metric shows real growth in enthusiast PC use, from Steam customer growth and software sales (both paid and F2P), to actual unit sales of enthusiast GPUs hardware.
But hey, it was nice to read some of the same bullshit arguments heard the last time new console hardware was being announced, right on cue.
No idea but I'll definitely be buying one.
A PS4 that can run existing games at higher levels? Sign me up
Has this been confirmed? I thought the performance boost was for new games only (like the 3DS > New 3DS).
So that means... a better performing Bloodborne, dare I say 60fps and no CA, is possible?
Is it just me but I am thinking this is good news for PC gamers.
This would mean more graphically powerful console games exceeding current GPU requirements would be possible thus giving PC gamers an upgrade.
could also mean more time needs to be spent on the console versions which to a shitty publisher like WB means less time spent on the PC version
Thankfully Steam refunds are a thing. No more bad games bought <3
Demanufacture
Banned
You are completely out of touch with PC gaming. Do some research please.
Chairmanchuck
Member
I actually think most console-gamers dont even know that 4k means 4 times the resolution of 1080p and think its totally feasible to run games in 4k.
I have an 980Ti and modern western games run in 4k, but barely. Maybe japanese games will run in 4k on the PS4k, but besides that I doubt devs would use the "PS4k" for resolutions and rather add more graphical "options" to the games and stay at 1080p.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
More like just upscaled to 4k. Performance will be the same.
Lister
Banned
Is it just me but I am thinking this is good news for PC gamers.
This would mean more graphically powerful console games exceeding current GPU requirements would be possible thus giving PC gamers an upgrade.
Yeah if anything it might be bad for console gaming, and good for pc gaming. PC hardware will stool continued to outpace the console and now you'll get even better graphics and effects thanks to devs targeting slightly better hardware.
No, because PC gaming isn't all about graphical prowess which is all an upgraded console could offer over the previous versions of consoles. Only a handful of people have high end cards and the most popular games on the platform run on low spec machines. It also has a software library that no console could ever hope to touch that spans decades back.
Acerac
Banned
So... you're stating you're out of touch with the general world?
Or are you not part of GAF?
Or is this just a "EVERYONE BUT ME IS STUPID!!!!" kind of thing? That's what most "Gaf is XXX" posts come across as, and yours seems really similar.
What do you mean by outside the western sphere. The dying japanese market or the asian market where console are not even sold ?
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
Ease of use is no longer an issue on PC gaming. Some of the biggest advantages of consoles (parity, life cycle) are eliminated and make the PC even more attractive. It's going to have the reverse of affect in my opinion. I see it driving more people to PC than away from it.
That is if the PS4K we get is actually more powerful enough that we even notice anything in a 1080p game.
That is if the PS4K we get is actually more powerful enough that we even notice anything in a 1080p game.
I love it when people like you are so blatantly wrong in your opinions that it makes it TRIVIALLY easy to ignore
Movalpolos
Banned
Great thread.
I'm gonna go with yes. Just to be different really.
I'm gonna go with yes. Just to be different really.
I would say if the rumors are true, the NX will be the real threat to PC gaming. It's fundamentally offering something the PC or PS4 can't with its unique control; furthermore it is supposedly more powerful than the ps4 while offering easier development. I know it sounds ridiculous because wiiu is such a fart in the wind, but we aren't so far removed when everybody in America had a wii, it was pulling in gamers wildly outside of normal gaming demographics and PC was pretty niche.