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[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

$12.2M Tuesday, which is a very steep 19% drop compared to the 5% for F7. We'll have to see how the holds were for other films; if everything had significantly worse holds than anticipated, we may need to throw out F7 as a point of comparison going forward. I was reading that there are about 40% of schools out for Spring Break, which may be a higher number than those during the first week of April. May explain some of the differences were seeing... or it could just be some major frontloading.

 

[Dahbomb]

Do not doubt the king.

The hilarious part is that it's feasible that an Aquaman movie can make that much bank in today's market without even needing James Cameron.

 

[GhaleonEB]

$12.2M Tuesday, which is a very steep 19% drop compared to the 5% for F7. We'll have to see how the holds were for other films; if everything had significantly worse holds than anticipated, we may need to throw out F7 as a point of comparison going forward. I was reading that there are about 40% of schools out for Spring Break, which may be a higher number than those during the first week of April. May explain some of the differences were seeing.

I liked it as a point of comparison for opening weekend, because it was an apples-apples for taking into account the Easter weekend, which other super hero movies didn't have to contend with. But yeah, going forward it may not be a good touch point for tracking if it's going to lag.

After $15m on Monday, I thought perhaps BvS would hold up better for the rest of the week, but that is a sizable drop for Tuesday, especially with discounts usually bumping or at least helping soften the drop on the day.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

More Tuesday numbers: http://pro.boxoffice.com/statistics/bo_numbers/daily/2016-03-30?force_kind=true

I liked it as a point of comparison for opening weekend, because it was an apples-apples for taking into account the Easter weekend, which other super hero movies didn't have to contend with. But yeah, going forward it may not be a good touch point for tracking if it's going to lag.

After $15m on Monday, I thought perhaps BvS would hold up better for the rest of the week, but that is a sizable drop for Tuesday, especially with discounts usually bumping or at least helping soften the drop on the day.

It looks like perhaps Easter 2013 might provide a better comparison at this point: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2013-04-02&track=croods.htm&p=.htm

Croods dropped almost the exact same amount as Zootopia post-Easter Monday. If we use GI Joe as an analogue to BvS, the latter will drop 25% today. GI Joe did have a better Monday and significantly better Tuesday hold though, so BvS could certainly fall more today. Either way, I don't think it'll be any higher than $9M for Wednesday.

 

[Mortimer Brewster]

The hilarious part is that it's feasible that an Aquaman movie can make that much bank in today's market without even needing James Cameron.

James Cameron movies don't open big since T2, they just have monstrous legs that allow them to wrack up records by consistently making good amounts of money over an extended time period.

 

[Dead]

James Cameron movies don't open big since T2, they just have monstrous legs that allow them to wrack up records by consistently making good amounts of money over an extended time period.

Yeah but he hasn't directed an established property with built in hype ever, since T2

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Yeah, that's a decent drop considering it's Discount day.

 

[kswiston]

Deadpool is officially past American Sniper domestically.

Zootopia was down 22% from last week on Tuesday. I'm guessing this weekend's take will be around $18M, bringing the domestic total to around $275M

BvS made $20.7M overseas in addition to the $12.2M domestic take. New total is now $502M.

Tuesday drop was harder overseas than I expected yesterday. I guess Easter Monday business is a big deal in many territories. BvS should enter this weekend with a total between $550-560M.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Deadpool is officially past American Sniper domestically.

Zootopia was down 22% from last week on Tuesday. I'm guessing this weekend's take will be around $18M, bringing the domestic total to around $275M

BvS made $20.7M overseas in addition to the $12.2M domestic take. New total is now $502M.

Tuesday drop was harder overseas than I expected yesterday. I guess Easter Monday business is a big deal in many territories. BvS should enter this weekend with a total between $550-560M.

That is a pretty hard Mon-Tue drop globally. I was surprised to see Zootopia's drop as well, but I'm unfamiliar with how Easter Monday drops are; this year seems kind of odd. Still, the rest of the top 10 was more normal for a Tuesday, though obviously at lower levels.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

How poorly would BvS have to perform to get Snyder off the JL movie? Or is that just wishful thinking?

#FyreSnyder

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Kid films tend to have the worst drops on Tuesdays after Easter because the Monday prior is day with the most schools on break. For whatever reason, this year seems to have had more on break than last year, so Zootopia's drop is understandable.

I don't think you can justify BvS's drop as anything more than major frontloading, though, considering it had the worst Monday drop in the top 12 and by far the second worst Tuesday drop.

 

[guek]

How poorly would BvS have to perform to get Snyder off the JL movie? Or is that just wishful thinking?

#FyreSnyder

Probably on par with Man of Steel ($668mil WW). Aint happening.

 

[Sulik2]

How poorly would BvS have to perform to get Snyder off the JL movie? Or is that just wishful thinking?

#FyreSnyder

Wishful thinking, they start filming in a couple of weeks, would lose too much money to stop production at this point. If its under a billion global at the end of its run I could see them pulling him off Man of Steel 2 and Justice League Part 2 though.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

So is Star Wars like, incapable of dipping below $100,000 a day? 3 weeks ago it dipped into the $100,000's for the first time, and it's been staying pretty steady ever since despite the theatre count dropping in half (1,021 to 552), lol.

I'm sure with the digital/BluRay release almost here it will finally drop off, but it's funny how it's still been clinging on for a while now.

 

[JadedWriter]

Wishful thinking, they start filming in a couple of weeks, would lose too much money to stop production at this point. If its under a billion global at the end of its run I could see them pulling him off Man of Steel 2 and Justice League Part 2 though.

Just hire a "consultant" and he does everything while keeping Snyder "in charge."

 

[gamz]

Gitesh Pandya ‏@GiteshPandya 7h7 hours ago
Even w/ large drops ahead, I calculate a path to $1B+ global final for #BatmanvSuperman. The fans have spoken.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Probably on par with Man of Steel ($668mil WW). Aint happening.

Wishful thinking, they start filming in a couple of weeks, would lose too much money to stop production at this point. If its under a billion global at the end of its run I could see them pulling him off Man of Steel 2 and Justice League Part 2 though.

Bleh.

I just saw BvS on Sunday. Wanted to love it. Barely like it.

 

[jey_16]

I think they will stick with him for JL1 although probably under a tighter leash and a few changes to make it lighter and then he will be done. Will continue to be involved in the rest of the DC slate but possibly in a reduced role

Wouldn't be surprised if he is a bit burnt out, doing 3 $200m+ blockbusters in the space of 4 years would take it out of you

 

[Mix Master]

lol I can't see it being that much worse than I3 or AoU. People acting like those two set any sort of template on how to do great comic books movies. Some of you guys going berserk over this movie is both funny and sad

Pathetic post, you people act like comic films are your mothers, stop being so sensitive.

 

[J_Viper]

Gitesh Pandya ‏@GiteshPandya 7h7 hours ago
Even w/ large drops ahead, I calculate a path to $1B+ global final for #BatmanvSuperman. The fans have spoken.

I don't know who this is, but I hope they're right because I loved it.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I don't know who this is, but I hope they're right because I loved it.

He's a box office enthusiast/analyst who runs boxofficeguru.com (get ready to flash back to the late 90's site design). Been reading his site since before Titanic came out. He's got a decent track record for projections and a lot of history to look back on, though I'm not as confident it hits $1b given the Mon-Tues drops in the US and internationally. We'll know for sure by Saturday.

 

[gamz]

He's a box office enthusiast/analsyt who runs boxofficeguru.com (get ready to flash back to the late 90's site design). Been reading his site since before Titanic came out. He's got a decent track record for projections and a lot of history to look back on, though I'm not as confident it hits $1b given the Mon-Tues drops in the US and internationally. We'll know for sure by Saturday.

That's when I started following him with Titanic. He's typically on the nose or a tad conservative.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Gitesh Pandya ‏@GiteshPandya 7h7 hours ago
Even w/ large drops ahead, I calculate a path to $1B+ global final for #BatmanvSuperman. The fans have spoken.

Gitesh is great, but he's often quite conservative with his predictions. I wouldn't be surprised if his defintion of "large drops" is sub 65% for the US and sub 60% internationally for this weekend.

 

[Crimsonlink]

It's sad to see trash get rewarded due to basically no competition, IMHO anyways.

 

[J_Viper]

He's a box office enthusiast/analyst who runs boxofficeguru.com (get ready to flash back to the late 90's site design). Been reading his site since before Titanic came out. He's got a decent track record for projections and a lot of history to look back on, though I'm not as confident it hits $1b given the Mon-Tues drops in the US and internationally. We'll know for sure by Saturday.

That's great to hear then

As long as this does well enough for WB to go ahead with a solo Batfleck film, I'll be happy

 

[SArcher]

Wouldn't be surprised if he is a bit burnt out, doing 3 $200m+ blockbusters in the space of 4 years would take it out of you

He already looks really tired.

 

[Timbuktu]

It's sad to see trash get rewarded due to basically no competition, IMHO anyways.

It was always going to be big, the glass half empty version would be to imagine how huge it could have been if it was actually good.

 

[JadedWriter]

He already looks really tired.

But does he look sad?

 

[tomtom94]

As long as this does well enough for WB to go ahead with a solo Batfleck film, I'll be happy

Frankly I expect WB to do the solo Batman film regardless. Not only is it one of their biggest franchises but if this film does become universally recognised as 'bad' (which is not set in stone) then they can pitch it as a rescue for the character.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

It was always going to be big, the glass half empty version would be to imagine how huge it could have been if it was actually good.

Under the most ideal conditions it could very well have out-grossed Avengers. Though that would have required a fundamentally different movie released under very different circumstances, like not being a sequel to MoS. Even without differing circumstances it should have easily done Iron Man 3 numbers. Dark Knight topped a billion 8 years ago with a weaker international market. Inflation and even a fairly weak Chinese release alone should have been enough to get it to $1.2b and beyond.

One thing's for sure, a movie starring Batman in a headlining role should not be struggling to pass $400m in America. American's fucking love Batman, and as far as headlining super heroes go, no one comes close, not even Iron Man. With Batman alone this should have soared past $450m domestically without even trying, and Superman, Wonder Woman, and the promise of a massive hero fight should have been the icing on the money cake.

 

[duckroll]

Just hire a "consultant" and he does everything while keeping Snyder "in charge."

"Just". Lol. As if the people doing the hiring know how to make a better movie than Snyder.

 

[JadedWriter]

"Just". Lol. As if the people doing the hiring know how to make a better movie than Snyder.

By consultant I meant hire a better director but in secret.

 

[RBelong2Us]

It has to hit at least 600m overseas to get a billion because 400m in the states is hard to see.

It's gotta do sun 65% this coming weekend to have any shot

 

[duckroll]

By consultant I meant hire a better director but in secret.

And what makes you think they know what a better director is?

 

[tomtom94]

Pretty sure it does a billion. Still unsure whether it beats Dark Knight Rises. Certain that a lot of people don't understand how bad those numbers would look to WB.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

Pretty sure it does a billion. Still unsure whether it beats Dark Knight Rises. Certain that a lot of people don't understand how bad those numbers would look to WB.

I'm going to say literally 0% chance it tops DKR.

 

[JadedWriter]

And what makes you think they know what a better director is?

Blind optimism.

 

[Kelsdesu]

Dini and Morrison sitting on the bench like:

Hollywood bros still aint gonna call these guys for the next slew of movies coming out....

 

[Bobby Roberts]

They don't want it.

 

[JadedWriter]

Dini and Morrison sitting on the bench like:

Hollywood bros still aint gonna call these guys for the next slew of movies coming out....

Can they get them to make a Batman Beyond live action movie? Especially one where Terry doesn't die a stupid death?

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Dini and Morrison sitting on the bench like:

Hollywood bros still aint gonna call these guys for the next slew of movies coming out....

Dini has gone on record a few times about wanting nothing to do with it. He said that he told his stories before.

 

[Kelsdesu]

Dini has gone on record a few times about wanting nothing to do with it. He said that he told his stories before.

There truly is no hope then.

 

[Father_Brain]

Gitesh Pandya ‏@GiteshPandya 7h7 hours ago
Even w/ large drops ahead, I calculate a path to $1B+ global final for #BatmanvSuperman. The fans have spoken.

Seems a bit optimistic to me, but we'll see.

 

[MisterHero]

Dini and Morrison sitting on the bench like:

is this the dude that made Superman wage war on his home planet in the last episode of his own series

the dude whose universe nerfed superman in early justice league so Batman others could stand out more

the dude whose universe's Batman shat on Superman for putting Doomsday in space jail

 

[PhoncipleBone]

is this the dude that made Superman wage war on his home planet in the last episode of his own series

the dude whose universe nerfed superman in early justice league so Batman others could stand out more

the dude whose universe's Batman shat on Superman for putting Doomsday in space jail

And the man who delivered some of the greatest DC stuff in animation. The man wrote Heart of Ice and cocreated Harley Quinn.

 

[Kelsdesu]

is this the dude that made Superman wage war on his home planet in the last episode of his own series

the dude whose universe nerfed superman in early justice league so Batman others could stand out more

the dude whose universe's Batman shat on Superman for putting Doomsday in space jail

Sure. Also the same dude who truly understood the Batman Superman dichotomy and the writer of arguably the best Batman movie to this day.

But you knew that.

 

[3N16MA]

How poorly would BvS have to perform to get Snyder off the JL movie? Or is that just wishful thinking?

#FyreSnyder

On its current path I can't see WB making any massive changes in the near future. It's on pace for at least 900M which would be disappointing but probably not enough to do anything massive like boot Snyder.

WB could easily shuffle their release schedule or add films after 2017. I expect a Batman solo film before JL2 and that could be pushed back if need be.

 

[golem]

By consultant I meant hire a better director but in secret.

WB will most likely remain firm on JL no matter what since they're (TW) under threat of takeover and any moves that show a lack of confidence will hurt their stock price.

 

[jackdoe]

Dini and Morrison sitting on the bench like:

Hollywood bros still aint gonna call these guys for the next slew of movies coming out....

While the characterizations were nothing like what Morrison would have done, the narrative structure, heavy use of symbolism, and numerous throwbacks to DC history that require Wikipedia are all very Morrison. So we'd get probably still get something as critically panned as the current product if he were involved creatively.

 

[kswiston]

Boxoffice.com is predicting $55M for BvS this weekend, which would mean a shit show for this weekend's thread.


EDIT: For comparison, Deadpool made over $56M in its second weekend. Iron Man 3 did $72.5M.