Final Fantasy XV: Platinum Demo Thread
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toddhunter
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That is kind of the point of a demo?
I thought it was awful, both as a demonstration and a game.
Performance seemed bad.
Graphical effects like the hair were jarring
It had an annoying mascot creature
It had you collecting gems like a f2p mobile title
Combat made me wish it was KH1 so things would be more fluid and the camera would be better
The environments were bland and lifeless
The music was excellent
I don't know what they were trying to do here.
I contributed, fantastic demo. Criticism isn't really fair in this thread when obviously everybody wanted some hybrid Witcher3/Bloodborne gameplay. It is not, it's FFXV and it plays great for what it is.
GhostTrick
Banned
Katana_Strikes
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Was enjoyable. A nice taster I guess. Nothing amazing in any sense or in any department but enjoyable all the same.
DarkLordMalik
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This makes no sense but okay.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Final games framerate is gonna be just as dreadful isn't it?
Can already see the PS4K comparison vid that will give me a rage headache.
Can already see the PS4K comparison vid that will give me a rage headache.
You may have a point. Dynamic resolution is tricky to see on my 4K panel if I don't use some form of Motion enhancer.
A lot of people just want it to be more intuitively responsive. The reason people cite games like those is because while they have animation commitments for attacks (Witcher less so), they address character agency during combat animations in an effective manner that makes for and engaging and strategic combat experience.
I don't think anybody wants that gameplay, but they want that sense of connection with the buttons you press/hold and the actions you take and your character's ability to respond to that. As it is now, it just feels really underwhelming and that click of satisfaction just is not there yet.
GhostTrick
Banned
Which is my point with dynamic. Some screens seems to be clean, others seems to be subnative res. If this is 1080p:
Then SE is doing something wrong.
SymbiantXenos
Member
How do you attack lol. Held O nothing. Press O also nothing..
Remember attack/defend in a FF game is as repetitive as it can be. They obviously wanted you to make proper decisions in combat rather than mash buttons.
I am with you on the responsiveness though, could be better, it's worse than Witcher3 pre alternative movement patch.
backflip10019
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How long is the demo?
I don't think this demo is much of a reflection of the final product. Anyone put off will just wait for the reviews, if the game turns out good, this demo will be forgotten pretty quickly.
SkylineRKR
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I thought Duscae was awful. Poor performance, subpar Gameplay, bad AI etc. I gave it the benefit of the doubt because it was a very old build. But this one is still shit. I probably won't skip it, never skipped new numbered FF, but it looks disappointing.
DarkLordMalik
Member
They are using a really terrible post-process solution for the game. Duscae felt the same to me. This one looks much more sharper in detail than Duscae.Which is my point with dynamic. Some screens seems to be clean, others seems to be subnative res. If this is 1080p:
Then SE is doing something wrong.
There's definitely some bizzare stuff going between the framerate hitches and camera issues. Actually had to take a break for a bit despite the demo being incredibly short. Definitely not just you.
Edit: wow mobile autocorrect really butchered that apologies.
toddhunter
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Yeah can last longer if you explore the environments to find all the gems.
Because FF is apparently now spyro the fucking dragon.
KojiKnight
Member
As someone who had no interest in this game going into the demo.... I left feeling even more lethargic than before hand.
If this game was supposed to sell me on the story, character, combat, or anything but the graphics... it failed spectacularly.
A shame really, because the CGI movie announcement got me interested enough to even try the demo (and the first episode of the anime wasn't too bad either)... but if this is what I have to expect from the final game...
If this game was supposed to sell me on the story, character, combat, or anything but the graphics... it failed spectacularly.
A shame really, because the CGI movie announcement got me interested enough to even try the demo (and the first episode of the anime wasn't too bad either)... but if this is what I have to expect from the final game...
YankeeDonB
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Just finished demo - thought it was quite nice for what it was. Pretty (Altissia!), fun to poke around, carbuncle is a bro. Folks seem to have been expecting a full functionality battle demo, which yes, I can see that being disappointing.
No, Final Fantasy isn't, but this demo is. The gems are just there to guide you to the golden circles.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Have u equipped a weapon? Track pad on PS4 to select weapon first. Then O to attack.
Final Fantasy XIV was that game.
SymbiantXenos
Member
That'll be why. Ty for the info.
YankeeDonB
Member
It's just a little FF XV toybox. Maybe not wise the release that to the hungry masses at this point though....
The gems just felt like a guidance system to drive you from location to location and encourage exploration. I didn't mind it as much as all the performance issues.
I haven't played any FFXV content for now (Episode Duscae or others beta things), and damn. That's amazing. I was scared sometimes about how the game would play, but... I'm really satisfied.
The fact to use a "tech demo" gameplay (with these plates) to show you game content is a very good idea for me.
These ~3Gb are definitively constituting a true collector element that any FF fan should keep on their PS4 HDD, this make me think to P.T (speaking of this, is the demo planned to be deleted of the PS Store ?).
Some gameplay thoughts :
- I would prefer a more dynamic way to attack. I think I will need to wait FF7R to see the CC2's work.
- Now, I understand why Sony want a PS4K. I really hope to see a PC version of the game. This tech demo is one of the most beautiful thing I saw running on my PS4. I can even hear the PS4 screaming while playing the demo (honestly, dear Square, keep the game as it is, I don't give a f**k about framerate issues, or add some graphical settings if you want).
- The noise that the boy is making while attacking enemies is REALLY annoying. I'm not that annoyed by the Carbuncle noises, but I hope to hear less onomatopoeias in the final game (generally I'm a big fan of this sort of "cute" sound design, like in LocoRoco or what I saw in The Last Guardian (speaking of Trico noises). But these boy sounds are really annoying). Despite this, musics are just fantastic.
- Level/City design... Oh My God. Before playing this, I thought that Mirror's Edge Catalyst would be my Level Design Of The Year. But I just found a new contender. I had some Ape Escape 2 feelings playing the city level (the one just after the room level).
- I don't really like the vehicle handling for now. I hope the black car will be funnier to use, because actually there is no accelerations feelings, or suspensions, etc... (speaking of the toy truck you can use in the room level).
- Oh and, yeah, the gems. Not a cool idea. At all. I don't know a lot of things about FFXV, but I hope these things aren't in the final game.
Well, I think FFXV is ready to be Day 0 for me.
The fact to use a "tech demo" gameplay (with these plates) to show you game content is a very good idea for me.
These ~3Gb are definitively constituting a true collector element that any FF fan should keep on their PS4 HDD, this make me think to P.T (speaking of this, is the demo planned to be deleted of the PS Store ?).
Some gameplay thoughts :
- I would prefer a more dynamic way to attack. I think I will need to wait FF7R to see the CC2's work.
- Now, I understand why Sony want a PS4K. I really hope to see a PC version of the game. This tech demo is one of the most beautiful thing I saw running on my PS4. I can even hear the PS4 screaming while playing the demo (honestly, dear Square, keep the game as it is, I don't give a f**k about framerate issues, or add some graphical settings if you want).
- The noise that the boy is making while attacking enemies is REALLY annoying. I'm not that annoyed by the Carbuncle noises, but I hope to hear less onomatopoeias in the final game (generally I'm a big fan of this sort of "cute" sound design, like in LocoRoco or what I saw in The Last Guardian (speaking of Trico noises). But these boy sounds are really annoying). Despite this, musics are just fantastic.
- Level/City design... Oh My God. Before playing this, I thought that Mirror's Edge Catalyst would be my Level Design Of The Year. But I just found a new contender. I had some Ape Escape 2 feelings playing the city level (the one just after the room level).
- I don't really like the vehicle handling for now. I hope the black car will be funnier to use, because actually there is no accelerations feelings, or suspensions, etc... (speaking of the toy truck you can use in the room level).
- Oh and, yeah, the gems. Not a cool idea. At all. I don't know a lot of things about FFXV, but I hope these things aren't in the final game.
Well, I think FFXV is ready to be Day 0 for me.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
I enjoyed it for what it was to be honest. A very brief little bonus to tie over anyone who's been waiting for it all this time, I don't get why they say it was to target new players since it does an awful job at representing the game for them. Still, it was nice to get my hands on the magic system even if it's a very bare taste. I definitely prefer the combat system to what we had in the original duscae demo (still haven't gotten around to trying 2.0) and the few teasers of what's to come in the main game were pretty cool.
I'm gonna have a little mess around with it later and see what else is to be found out there rather than just hurrying onward to the Iron Giant. It could have performed better is my only real complaint since I only went in expecting a very small tech demo.
I'm gonna have a little mess around with it later and see what else is to be found out there rather than just hurrying onward to the Iron Giant. It could have performed better is my only real complaint since I only went in expecting a very small tech demo.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
But it still looks noticeably blurry compared to practically every other game this gen. This screen just looks lifeless and sterile.
Combat is really limited in this demo. It wasn't the point. The point is to introduce FFXV story by an artistic point of view (a dream Noctis did when he was a child...), they aren't using it to demonstrate complex gameplay.
But then, people are saying it's not a good action RPG (it's not an action RPG at all, guys), it's not responsive, it's automated... And yes, it is. It is FFXV, a game in a series where you were using a menu to control your characters in the past games. Here, there is no menu, but everything is the same, you choose what you are doing, you aren't really playing the actions themselves. If you want a different game, go in a different genre. That's why I hated every whiners about FFXV becoming an action game. It is not one, more so since Tabata got his hands on it.
usp84
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Played the demo in 37 minutes. First time i played this game and I didn't like it except the battle at the end which wasn't anything special but at least it showed me that maybe i could like the final game.
Those gems are a terrible idea.I can explore the world just fine by my own without some shiny things showing me the way.
I think they should make the first demo available for everyone because that seemed a lot more interesting than this.
I am not sure that this demo will convince many people to buy the game.
Those gems are a terrible idea.I can explore the world just fine by my own without some shiny things showing me the way.
I think they should make the first demo available for everyone because that seemed a lot more interesting than this.
I am not sure that this demo will convince many people to buy the game.
GhostTrick
Banned
Which is my point with dynamic. Some screens seems to be clean, others seems to be subnative res. If this is 1080p:
Then SE is doing something wrong.
damn.....look at that imgur compression makes it look even worse!!!....but I do see the Vaseline filter
QuantumZebra
Member
As someone who enjoyed XIII, the schadenfreude is palpable here.
People raged out over XIII so hard they had to build up XV in their minds as the savior of FF... when in fact it is, and was, just another FF game.
I don't doubt it will be decent, and I will probably play it, but the bro-metal characters, lifeless environments, and seemingly linear/boring story are definitely not doing it for me currently.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I don't have an answer to your question because I am not the developer, obviously. But I liked what I played and saw. Now if your theory holds and the resolution is dynamic, that would be certainly an interesting turn of event. If this leads to stable 30 fps, no issue for me.
Darryl M R
Member
Fun tech demo. The music was amazing. Wow.
Aztechnology
Member
I did the same thing. I swung at the Box just as I moved past the tree and saw it.
It isn't dynamic. I don't see the game being 1080p when you don't move and less than that when you move, it's silly and frankly absurd. But I think terribad motion blur coupled with an horrendous AA solution is the culprit here.
warpping to the enemy from far distance while eqipping Broadsword will stagger him in mid air change your weapon and do some combo in mid combo move L3 will do air flips and airial dodges , I'm dodging his attacks with warping more useful than normal roll
.hint: change the Lock-on button from R3 to R1 that will make your life easier
I haven't played it yet, but I did watch some of the demo online and Carbuncle is bothering me a bit. The text messages he sends don't seem to really match up with the character of screen. The messages seem to be bubbly and energetic, while actual character just stands there pretty emotionless.
I know that since animals don't have human faces, they don't emote the same way, they they can still show signs of life. Carbuncle being so animated kinda makes a pretty big disconnect.
I know that since animals don't have human faces, they don't emote the same way, they they can still show signs of life. Carbuncle being so animated kinda makes a pretty big disconnect.