Dark Souls III - PC Performance article

Jarrod357

Neo Member
I'm rockin' a 4690k 4.5ghz and crossfire 6950s with 16gb of RAM. I'm not sure if I should go with the ps4 version. I played dark souls 2 just fine on pc and that was with a 1090t but my graphics cards are showing there age. Any idea about crossfire for this game?
 

Durante

Member
I don't know about Crossfire support (if DS2 has support than DS3 should get it too I would assume), but ultimately even a single 6950 should at least match a PS4. And that CPU obviously kills it dead. The only thing that could be slightly concerning is how the AMD driver deals with the game's memory allocation on a 2GB card, but if it turns out to be an issue you can always get a refund.
 

Durante

Member
There's no way you will be doing 60 FPS at Ultra in 1440p on a 770.
You can't achieve a consistent 60 at those settings on a OC'd 970.
 

Korezo

Member
So is this a bad port or a very graphically demanding game? I was expecting 970s and other gpus to run the game at max with 60fps easily. Seems not to be the case.
 

Amadeusz

Neo Member
Is it known whether the "day 1 PC performance patch" is confirmed, or just a rumour that was started by people assuming that FROM will still work on PC version performance?

Also I've heard some people talking about enemy HP/dmg being buffed with day1 patch, does anyone have any info about that?
 
So is this a bad port or a very graphically demanding game? I was expecting 970s and other gpus to run the game at max with 60fps easily. Seems not to be the case.

A freaking GTX 950 is doing ULTRA settings @60fps 900p. Does that seem bad to you? Cmon.
 
guys I'm thinking of getting baseline alienware alpha, how is it gonna run dks3?

Will I be able to get consistent 60fps possibly higher than low setting?

not sure whether to go for the ps4 version or alpha at the moment...
 
There's no way you will be doing 60 FPS at Ultra in 1440p on a 770.
You can't achieve a consistent 60 at those settings on a OC'd 970.

Oh jeez... I wonder which settings are actually worth setting to max. I'll probably keep ambient occlusion, DoF, and motion blurs all at low/off. I wonder if that will allow my 290X to get consistent 60fps at 1440p.
 

Durante

Member
So is this a bad port or a very graphically demanding game?
Neither.

It's a game which runs at 30 FPS on PS4 at 1080p (most of the time).
To run at 1440p at 60 FPS on console settings would require 3.6 times PS4 performance.
Maximum settings are higher than PS4 settings, so we are talking at the very least 4x the performance if the port is pretty good. A 970 is not 4 times as fast as a PS4.
 

JMY86

Member
I am looking forward to the PC release more and more. I am currently playing on Xbox One, fighting the last boss and the frame rate is truly awful in some spots maybe even single digit bad. Lots of particles flying around...
 

fozzy

Member
I wonder how this will run on my 760, 3570k, 8gb. It would be nice to speculate since the ease of gaming on ps4 is more appealing than a computer if it's not much different in quality.

Please don't pitchfork me. PLEASE.

Nearly the same as my rig. Hoping for 1080p 50/60fps medium settings
 
guys I'm thinking of getting baseline alienware alpha, how is it gonna run dks3?

Will I be able to get consistent 60fps possibly higher than low setting?

not sure whether to go for the ps4 version or alpha at the moment...

What are the specs for the baseline alienware alpha? IMO its prob better to just build a PC.
 

Grassy

Member
guys I'm thinking of getting baseline alienware alpha, how is it gonna run dks3?

Will I be able to get consistent 60fps possibly higher than low setting?

not sure whether to go for the ps4 version or alpha at the moment...

What specs does this Alienware Alpha have? The $500 base one? I just checked it out and I wouldn't recommend that to be honest. 4GB ram isn't enough nowadays. It appears to use a Geforce 860m 2GB which has worse performance than the 750Ti, which is the minimum card as far as Dark Souls 3's 'Minimum' system requirements go.

Stick to the PS4 version.
 
Neither.

It's a game which runs at 30 FPS on PS4 at 1080p (most of the time).
To run at 1440p at 60 FPS on console settings would require 3.6 times PS4 performance.
Maximum settings are higher than PS4 settings, so we are talking at the very least 4x the performance if the port is pretty good. A 970 is not 4 times as fast as a PS4.

I know you don't have time to educate idiots, but maybe you could help me understand in some small way how you get to this figure of four times more powerful. Or are you doing pixel math? I'm also curious how the PS four GPU compares to my 980 TI in terms of power ( yes, I know it's significantly more powerful, I had just never thought about exactly how much). I don't mean this doubtingly, I mean it seriously because you know your shit and I am ignorant.

I was expecting to get ultra 1440p or close thereto on the card, But I had never stopped to consider what the difference in power was from card to card in terms of multiples of performance.

When you're measuring power what are we referencing from? Is it clock speeds? Is it cores? Is it a combination of all those things?
 

Hypron

Member
I wonder how much would you have to decrease the settings to get those 60fps at 1440p with a 970. Hopefully not much lower than high.
 

TitusTroy

Member
There's no way you will be doing 60 FPS at Ultra in 1440p on a 770.
You can't achieve a consistent 60 at those settings on a OC'd 970.

the game is that demanding?...none of the other PC Souls games have been anywhere close to being hardware killers...is the Bloodborne engine that much more demanding?
 

Chakan

Member
Neither.

It's a game which runs at 30 FPS on PS4 at 1080p (most of the time).
To run at 1440p at 60 FPS on console settings would require 3.6 times PS4 performance.
Maximum settings are higher than PS4 settings, so we are talking at the very least 4x the performance if the port is pretty good. A 970 is not 4 times as fast as a PS4.

On your tests did you visit the more demanding areas of the game? Names are (spoilers) -
Farron Keep and Grand Archives.
I have already finished the game on PC, and on these places the fps simply "dies".

My rig - i5 4670, 16 gb, 970, w10. The fps with graphics on either low or max stayed between 30 and 40 on these areas. I have restarted the game after swapping the settings just to make sure everything was properly changed.

Also there a lot of areas where the fps stays between 40-60. I played at 1080P.
 
On your tests did you visit the more demanding areas of the game? Names are (spoilers) -
Farron Keep and Grand Archives.
I have already finished the game on PC, and on these places the fps simply "dies".

My rig - i5 4670, 16 gb, 970, w10. The fps with graphics on either low or max stayed between 30 and 40 on these areas. I have restarted the game after swapping the settings just to make sure everything was properly changed.

Also there a lot of areas where the fps stays between 40-60. I played at 1080P.

What was the cpu usage when that happened?
 
What specs does this Alienware Alpha have? The $500 base one? I just checked it out and I wouldn't recommend that to be honest. 4GB ram isn't enough nowadays. It appears to use a Geforce 860m 2GB which has worse performance than the 750Ti, which is the minimum card as far as Dark Souls 3's 'Minimum' system requirements go.

Stick to the PS4 version.

appreciate the reply

My friend has extra 4GB ram so my concern is the gfx card. Can the baseline still play it at 60fps with 8GB ram?
 

Chakan

Member
What was the cpu usage when that happened?

On both 60 and 30-40 fps areas the cpu cores goes from 30 to 60-70% usage.

However, the GPU stays all the time between 70-80% usage on the 60fps areas, and between 30-40% usage on the 30-40fps places.

Something on these locations is preventing the GPU to work. No idea why.
 
appreciate the reply

My friend has extra 4GB ram so my concern is the gfx card. Can the baseline still play it at 60fps with 8GB ram?

No it can't and to be honest I don't consider the Alpha a good choice right now as opposed to 2 years ago. Of course if a new Alpha comes out that opinion would change but a lower than 750Ti performance isn't gonna cut it anymore unless all you play is indie/light games.

On both 60 and 30-40 fps areas the cpu cores goes from 30 to 60-70% usage.

However, the GPU stays all the time between 70-80% usage on the 60fps areas, and between 30-40% usage on the 30-40fps places.

Something on these locations is preventing the GPU to work. No idea why.

Probably Durante will shed some light on why that happens in his article. Maybe driver updates will help with that also.
 
appreciate the reply

My friend has extra 4GB ram so my concern is the gfx card. Can the baseline still play it at 60fps with 8GB ram?

Do you know if the alpha has room for an additional 1-2 slots of ram?

As others have said, $500 is a bit much. You could probably build a much more powerful PC with that much money

Also, if you already have a ps4 then just get the ps4 version
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
With a 760 at 1080p and a 4670k, should I just lock the game down to 30fps and crank it up to ultra, or should I try to negotiate 60fps out of some medium/high combination?
 

Gbraga

Member
With a 760 at 1080p and a 4670k, should I just lock the game down to 30fps and crank it up to ultra, or should I try to negotiate 60fps out of some medium/high combination?

The benchmarks we have show very little performance differences from Medium to High and High to Ultra. I'd try running it unlocked on High or Ultra, and only thinking about locking it if it ends up being too unstable.

It might even possible to run at 30fps on High at 1440p? With a couple of settings on medium? That would be pretty cool.
 
With a 760 at 1080p and a 4670k, should I just lock the game down to 30fps and crank it up to ultra, or should I try to negotiate 60fps out of some medium/high combination?

Based on this:
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you could try high/ultra 900p as a 760 is just slightly slower than a 950.


The DS3 drivers are already out, so I think it's all on From Soft now.

Yea the game will require a few patches I guess.
 

Anastasis

Member
As I understand it from reading the thread, 970OC or better. Maybe you'll be CPU bound? I don't know how good that CPU is, or is not.

Thanks! I had an i3, so my motherboard isn't able to overclock the i5 unfortunately. I hope it doesn't create too many bottlenecks.
 

Jarrod357

Neo Member
I don't know about Crossfire support (if DS2 has support than DS3 should get it too I would assume), but ultimately even a single 6950 should at least match a PS4. And that CPU obviously kills it dead. The only thing that could be slightly concerning is how the AMD driver deals with the game's memory allocation on a 2GB card, but if it turns out to be an issue you can always get a refund.

Thanks for your help! Dark souls 2 had crossfire support and I could get 60 fps on 1080p most of the time. I think I'll give PC a go.
 

Durante

Member
I'm assuming a i7 3820 and a 980 would consistently obtain a 60fps at1080p?
Sure.

What people need to realize is that the GPU load in this game scales very linearly with resolution. In other words, 1440p requires almost 80% more GPU performance than 1080p.
 
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