Pokemaniac
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There are ARM designs which can compete with the PS4 and Xbone, and that's really what matters here.
Reddit [verified] User shares NX info: x86 Architecture, Second screen support etc.
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There are ARM designs which can compete with the PS4 and Xbone, and that's really what matters here.
Well to be fair, LCgeek has the receipts to back up their claims with CPU leaks since the Wii. I believe they also linked their posts from those times in this thread too.
While I don't believe the rumor of this thread and how they seem to go against WSJ in some of their posts, LCgeek comes off more legit.
DaSorcerer7
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How does this rumour contradict what the WSJ reported?
There was a different verified reddit rumor that contradicted this reddit rumor and the WSJ. https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4dbfw2/some_things_that_need_to_be_stated_re_leaks/
I believe it was about not sending NX devkits out already which seems odd because i believe they would be if it's expected to come out at the end of this year.
Yes, for laptops/netbooks. It's not the sort of thing you can pull on a DS/Vita-sized handheld.
Size and power comparison with Tegra.
You forgot that intel released that kind of product:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/compute-stick/intel-compute-stick.html
And only need a 2A of electricity to function. So, it's DEFINITELY possible to get x86 on an handheld.
DaSorcerer7
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Ok, you're referring to the claims that other reddit user made.
The rumor claimed that the NX SDK the WSJ reported was actually an "existing SDK (Cafe) updated with NX references with sparse toolchain modifications."
DaSorcerer7
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Yeah, I'm aware I was one of those pressing him on it, lol.
James Scott
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A coder for Nintendo is kind of laughing at our (GAF's) obsession over x86 saying we have no idea how things work.
So I'm not too sure about this
So I'm not too sure about this
Yes, for laptops/netbooks. It's not the sort of thing you can pull on a DS/Vita-sized handheld.
Size and power comparison with Tegra.
That slide is from 923 bajillions years ago... Intel has released plenty of smartphone/tablet sized processors.
Huh? x86 implies the opposite
I saw it too. I think he's still watching Jimmy, he's onto us!
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Pokemaniac
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Wait, are you saying this is something that's actually happening, or is this just an assumption?
At any rate, I do agree that most of GAF has no idea how these things work.
SinCityAssassin
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I'm still not believing anything about any leaks until Nintendo puts them out, but the rumor of graphical power not being fettered by novel control schemes or possible compatibility features is very interesting.
James Scott
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After Alison and Chris got fired, I'd rather not get another nintendo employee fired so not sure if I should share the link or if he's fine.
He tweeted it today.
Meh, at the end of the day it doesn't matter. I assumed ARM for a more similar architecture between handheld and console plus the A72's can best out the cat APU's.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Everyone should.
But we occasionally have a guy who knows a guy who knows how these things work.
A cool Nintendo dude. No need to worry about it too much.
You can trust me...I'm good for it...
I'll just assume we're getting ARM
DaSorcerer7
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You can trust me...I'm good for it...
I'll just assume we're getting ARM
GAF's obsession with it doesn't mean that x86 is not being used, he could be referring to the assumption that being made here that the unified development approach is off the table.
Which would be seriously disappointing because they just restructured their hardware and software development to unify their development approach.
Pokemaniac
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Nah, I just found it, and the way it's phrased definitely seems to be more of a dismissive comment about how people on GAF seems to think x86 is necessary for some reason.
AcademicSaucer
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LCGeek has basically said that its an underpowered piece of shit that is only good for nintendo games and indies but not for AAA third party games right?
Im asumming thats the console, Im most curious about the handheld tho, Nintendo has no place in the home console market.
Im asumming thats the console, Im most curious about the handheld tho, Nintendo has no place in the home console market.
cartman414
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DaSorcerer7
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Going with x86 on console and ARM on handHeld doesn't prohibit that
Pokemaniac
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They specifically said that the CPU is more noticeably more powerful than PS4 and Xbone. They were disappointed about it relative to PCs.
Naked Prime
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With ps4k games still having to work on stock ps4s, if the nx matches or exceeds vanilla ps4 specs, the the difference between it & the ps4k should be irrelevant. ARM or x86 are only of interest to me went pondering the handheld sku; as ARM makes the most sense. GPU seems like it would be more telling...or topic worthy to say the least
Pokemaniac
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It doesn't prohibit it, sure, but it adds a bunch of complexity where there really doesn't need to be any.
James Scott
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He said it's a underpowered piece of shit like the PS4 and X1. (he thinks they should all be better)
DaSorcerer7
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He's not saying that at all. Especially when compared to current consoles.
This is what literacy has become. This is what happens when kids listen to the justin biebers.
Fess
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That's basically my point too right now, unless the PS4K and XB1.5 talk is upsetting old PS4/XB1 fans enough to want to jump ship I don't see power being enough of a big deal to steal back some users from the PS/Xbox ecosystem. They're stuck, they still want to play Halo, Uncharted, Forza, Gran Turismo, Gears of War, God of War etc.
It's better to try to get that unique secondary console spot where they're not competing directly with any of the other two but still get those gamers to want the new Nintendo console next to their other core gaming machine of choice, be that PC, PS4/4K or XB1/1.5.
I honestly don't think Nintendo will get any wows and crazy cheering this year by slightly beating PS4 and XB1 in power, even if they're also beating their rumored upgrades. They need to do their usual thing and evolve gaming in some way so even PC gamers simply can't play that way on their $3000 gaming rigs either. VR is a big of enough deal right now that anything ordinary no matter how powerful it is will get the "meh" respons from the masses.
I actually don't know.
They're pretty reputable on CPU stuff of Nintendo's. They linked their past leak from Beyond3D about the Wii's CPU.
I completely forgot that the NX will be the first 9th generation console.
I guess gens don't matter without power distinction, at least not right now.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Sunshine 2 confirmed.
Just saw the talk about it a few pages back. Thanks!
cartman414
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How does it handle heat at higher power envelopes though?
MrCunningham
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This is gen 8.5.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo starting the next gen soon, there is no doubt about that.
Only because PS4k is backwards compatible to PS4 doesn't mean it is not a new gen. XOne has some BC to X360, Wii U is BC to Wii. XOne2 will be BC to XOne.
Nonetheless the last gen (PS4 & co) will perhaps last a bit longer than the usual last gen consoles. But this depends entirely how fast the people switch to the new gen. if the purchasing power went to next gen fast.
It seems the early adopter/people who buy many games are willing to move on, if this happens the current gen will only get sparse and sub optimal ports soon enough.
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