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[Turrican3]

More? Nah dude, track record shows that their last few attempts, from handheld to console, have been underpowered compared to the competition.

Nintendo has been traditionally "weak" on the handheld side of their business though.

This is definitely not true for their console efforts, so what BABTY said is factually correct: 4 out of 6 Nintendo home platforms were definitely (at least) comparable to the competitors offer.

 

[Easy_D]

Nintendo has been traditionally "weak" on the handheld side of their business though.

This is definitely not true for their console efforts, so what BABTY said is factually correct: 4 out of 6 Nintendo home platforms were definitely (at least) comparable to the competitors offer.

I'd argue the 3DS wasn't even that weak, apart from its abysmal resolution it could push some nice graphics, in 3D to boot. The Vita was just that much stronger.

 

[diaspora]

Cause most of gaf and net who understand speculation or theory would like more proof. One detail doesn't make up for what I had last time or what others in better positions than me would have. Look how off people were the last 2 gens. This reddit rumor is legit but not context which is why I put up that red flag in a topic that basically is skyrocketing much quicker than other nintendo pre launch spec wars.

So I mentioned one detail I knew and that's why I'm skeptical. Nintendo either upgraded from what I was told or there's some bs'ing. Don't think I'm inherently hyping it I'm saying no way a lowball spec can do the rumored performance. There's also the problem of bottlenecking. I don't know how supposed people didn't catch this. You need a good cpu to feed 7870/7950 that would have to do grunt work with little performance issues, and then you would need polaris or higher gcn tech to do the job. Hypothetically what people are saying from my perspective is with a shit cpu that nintendo is gonna put in a GPU as good as that to somehow makeup for the shit cpu that is needed to get ports working if they move on from BC in the manner said rumors describe. People in to emulation know why there are holes in certain rumors. Nintendo, could easily make performance in other places and get there. AMD chips fx4300 is a decent minimum too if we are talking smooth ports or ones devs want to spend time on. I don't buy this rumor knowing that piece of info. Cpu has to be good somewhere in that range and its not unreasonable outside of what people mention which is form. Nintendo usually is more impressive in this area than we give them credit so we can wait and see as usual. Low level apis have proved themselves so the real issue to me are tools that make the difference between a tomb raider patch and ashes of singluarity showing an i3 can keep up a processor a couple hundred more bucks more than it. We are in magical time I want to know the spells. People were laughing at MisterX, for good reason. He was right about apis he just needed a more balanced setup to show they could offset quite a bit. Is nintendo game, we will find out so start that countdown?

Welcome to negoaf megaton or megadud, it's spring time and there's no better way to start it than to throw down with a bit a love.

People were getting confused because you were saying that it had a shitty CPU when you're using PC CPUs as a benchmark when they're using the PS4 as a benchmark.

 

[Turrican3]

I'd argue the 3DS wasn't even that weak [...]

Fair enough.
I just wanted to say that, if we look at Nintendo history, it's definitely their home console business that showed most of their "cutting edge" efforts.

 

[Bots are better than you]

More? Nah dude, track record shows that their last few attempts, from handheld to console, have been underpowered compared to the competition. That's not me talking out of my ass, that's me going on what Nintendo have been doing for about ten years now. The fact that the Bone and PS4 are underpowered doesn't mean that the NX will match them or surpass them either, if anything it makes hardware power seem like more of an afterthought. Especially since Nintendo will probably be focused on chasing the Wii crowd again, the audience where they found the most success. And probably won't be willing to sell a console at a loss again or "cater to the core gamer" after the Wii U didn't pan out.

I don't trust so called "insiders", on GAF or not. Especially when it comes to Nintendo. As that's where you usually run into mental gymnastics.

I don't know what part of my posts managed to get you pissed off, or go ahead and assume that I know nothing about Nintendo's hardware or history. Aside from the fact that I said something you didn't like in a thread about a dumb rumor, with some posts being in jest. But OK, I'm totally wrong on a console we know nothing about in the first place.

You post "confirmed fake", like ... as this being a fact, using track record from the last 10 years, ignoring track record from earlier gens than the ones that support your mindset, projecting this belief on a new gen, and just happen to happily ignore posts from a user who shared a possible detail of the console, but is still criticising Nintendo for not using the most optimal components again.

If anything of this was in jest, there's a handy thing, called smiley, as i have serious problems in spotting sarcasm in a text not written in my native language.

And that is what i don't like, make your opinion sound like a fact, despite not knowing anything, just as i know nothing about it.
The difference is, that i try my best to not make my posts sound or appear like a fact, because for the very reason of not knowing anything about the system(s).

But let's stop this here, our posts have derailed the thread enough i think.

 

[DaSorcerer7]

If this guy gets verified then, lawdy lawd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nintendo_NX/comments/4cyr2t/details_regarding_nx_console_nx_ue4_dev/

 

[Exodust]

This is definitely not true for their console efforts, so what BABTY said is factually correct: 4 out of 6 Nintendo home platforms were definitely (at least) comparable to the competitors offer.

I was saying that for two generations of consoles Nintendo has chosen to be underpowered and focus on another hook. One lead to their greatest success, the other to their biggest failure. Their handhelds also followed the idea of having some sort of thing bring new gamers in(touch screen for DS and 3D for 3DS). I wasn't talking about their being more powerful nintendo consoles or not, that's not the argument here and I'm not sure why you think that changes the discussion. That was Nintendo then, Nintendo changed their philosophy, that changed brought them more success than they ever had before, and in spite of how the Wii U ended up I can definitely see them try the same approach they've doing again.

What does Nintendo gain from being the most powerful console on the market? Why would Nintendo make a new powerful console? Third Party won't be there for them, their online infrastructure just now is starting to catch up to 2005, they know they can't beat MS or Sony at their own game, and they can't exactly afford selling a console at a loss after the Wii U. The Wii worked out for them too well for them not to be chasing that magic dragon again. And since the Wii Nintendo will always feel like it would need a hook, usually a new controller type, to bring people in.

How the hell is "Well Nintendo wasn't always the weakest hardware around" a part of this discussion again? What does it change? Nothing. We're talking about now, not 2001.

You post "confirmed fake", like ... as this being a fact, using track record from the last 10 years, ignoring track record from earlier gens than the ones that support your mindset, projecting this belief on a new gen, and just happen to happily ignore posts from a user who shared a possible detail of the console, but is still criticising Nintendo for not using the most optimal components again.

If anything of this was in jest, there's a handy thing, called smiley, as i have serious problems in spotting sarcasm in a text not written in my native language.

And that is what i don't like, make your opinion sound like a fact, despite not knowing anything, just as i know nothing about it.
The difference is, that i try my best to not make my posts sound or appear like a fact, because for the very reason of not knowing anything about the system(s).

But let's stop this here, our posts have derailed the thread enough i think.

My problem is "Nintendo is going to do this thing and it's going to be totes sweet" rumors have been around since forever and start up before E3 by a bit every damn time, and people get hooked on them every damn time.

I'm not criticizing Nintendo as much as I'm pointing out that Nintendo works in a different way and has been for a while now. I don't think their old hardware working out or not in an industry that has changed completely since makes anything I say any less valid. I think I realize the problem here. Y'all think I'm insulting Nintendo, I'm not because lol who gives a shit they're a corporation and I'm not emotionally tied to them. I was just calling bullshit cause it sounds like bullshit, and in all likelihood it's probably going to end up bullshit.

But you're right, we derail this thread enough. I'm out.

 

[geordiemp]

This reddit rumor is legit but not context which is why I put up that red flag in a topic that basically is skyrocketing much quicker than other nintendo pre launch spec wars.

So if this reddit rumour is legit, his 2 posts referring to hardware say 2 important points :

1. X86 architecture

2. He says "The studios that are building / porting to NX only have access to software.

If thats the case, then nobody would know details on the CPU, RAM or GPU if Nintendo are just shipping software ? Is that correct ?

This reddit post conflicts with all other rumours.

 

[Herb Alpert]

If this guy gets verified then, lawdy lawd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nintendo_NX/comments/4cyr2t/details_regarding_nx_console_nx_ue4_dev/

as we get closer to reveal the rumour mill becomes crazy.
I found that reasonable until they gave the name. Nintendo EXTRA lol.
I'm afraid this thread will soon get a friendly visit from Modbot...

Nintendo using an external engine?
the name of the guy who posts this rumour? NXDEV16UE4 lol.

The weeks ahead will be full of BS, let's remain cautious...

 

[ffdgh]

amd 8350 stock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NX>>>>> X1 >> PS4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii U. All 3 of big 3 manufacturers got this issue wrong, yet I know next gen 2 of them won't cause they tend to do a decent job. Nintendo isn't impressing anyone.

Honestly this is more than I was expecting if I understand this correctly lol. /pessimism

 

[Sadist]

And the crazy starts

 

[Easy_D]

Nintendo Extra is the worst name ever. It might be true guys.

 

[Orniletter]

If this guy gets verified then, lawdy lawd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nintendo_NX/comments/4cyr2t/details_regarding_nx_console_nx_ue4_dev/

The reddit guy said the CPU is 30% more powerful, which is along the lines of what LCGeek posted (the X1's CPU is about 10% more powerful than the PS4's, 10% = >>).

Probably just coincidence and it's just horseshit though.

Nintendo Extra is the worst name ever. It might be true guys.

It's not very good, but Extra is far, far more neutral than Wii fucking U. That was an awful name.

 

[klier]

Verified forum poster?

LOL, never change NEOGAF.

 

[DrROBschiz]

30 pages?

Yup im not catching up with this then

 

[VariantX]

Nintendo Extra is the worst name ever. It might be true guys.

As long as its not called Wii-anything, I consider it a step up.

 

[Herb Alpert]

The reddit guy said the CPU is 30% more powerful, which is along the lines of what LCGeek posted.

Probably just coincidence and it's just horseshit though.



It's not very good, but Extra is far, far more neutral than Wii fucking U. That was an awful name.

Yeah, if we choose WiiU as a metric to measure how shitty a name is, well, any name could be awesome.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Nintendo Extra is the worst name ever. It might be true guys.

is this real?

Thats a terrible name to consider

 

[Brinbe]

NINTENDO EXTRA

EXTRA CRAPPY

 

[Orniletter]

Nintendo Extra is the worst name ever. It might be true guys.

Thats the spirit !

I mean, these ae videogame boxes. You might not realize it, because those names are super old by now, but XBox and PlayStation are not some ultra creative and brilliant names either.

 

[Vampirolol]

A Nintendo game using UE4? Percentages to show power difference? Nintendo Extra? Sounds a little fake.

 

[Marvel]

Nintendo Extra, so stupid it probably is true.

 

[Bots are better than you]

If this guy gets verified then, lawdy lawd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nintendo_NX/comments/4cyr2t/details_regarding_nx_console_nx_ue4_dev/

So, a team of devs, porting a PC indie game, has the name of the system?
And the console has an additional ARM SoC for playing the handheld games?

I think this is a pretty obvious fake.

 

[AppleSautts]

Would Nintendo really tell a 3rd party the final name of their console already?

 

[Brocken]

Every name is better than another Wii "something"

Even Nintendo Extra

 

[James Scott]

A Nintendo game using UE4? Percentages to show power difference? Nintendo Extra? Sounds a little fake.

Just a little.
Though I do wonder if it would be beneficial for some studios to use the engine.
Would give Epic more of a reason to support the engine and could help nintendevs that don't have a good engine to use like the fire emblem team speed up development for their first titles especially if it facilitates porting between console and handheld

 

[doop_]

I would be happy if it was true but it probably isn't.

 

[Herb Alpert]

Would Nintendo really tell a 3rd party the final name of their console already?

this. Some of you may know how things work generally. When a dev get a devkit, the thing has a codename, hasn't it? Devs are not told the final name of a system, which is, I imagine, kept secret by the marketing dept?

THis "rumour" seems ridiculous, move on.

 

[DrROBschiz]

We are going to be pissing in the wind all the way till the 27th arent we

 

[shark sandwich]

Nintendo Extra, so stupid it probably is true.

If anything it's not stupid enough to be a Nintendo console name.

 

[BY2K]

If this guy gets verified then, lawdy lawd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nintendo_NX/comments/4cyr2t/details_regarding_nx_console_nx_ue4_dev/

At least 1 Nintendo Game launching this year will use Unreal Engine 4

*Nintendo using anything else than their own engine.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

[Vampirolol]

About the name being known by an indie dev, isn't Nintendo always waiting the last days before announcement to choose the final name? I'm almost sure they did with both Wii and Wii U.

Just a little.
Though I do wonder if it would be beneficial for some studios to use the engine.
Would give Epic more of a reason to support the engine and could help nintendevs that don't have a good engine to use like the fire emblem team speed up development for their first titles especially if it facilitates porting between console and handheld

Yeah, I mean, it would be awesome but still unlikely.

 

[Peru]

"NEX" could look nice though, if you just don't tell people the real meaning.

 

[Orniletter]

*Nintendo using anything else than their own engine.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Retro Studios is a part of Nintendo too and their own Metroid Prime engine was rooted in Unreal. And they are due another game this year.

Not saying this is true though.

 

[bomblord1]

If this guy gets verified then, lawdy lawd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nintendo_NX/comments/4cyr2t/details_regarding_nx_console_nx_ue4_dev/

Typically anyone claiming a firm release date is lying. That's not really something they give to dev's before announcing to the world.

 

[Kikorin]

I think all these leaks are pretty random and for the biggest part false for now, I can't believe developers like Rebellion or people behind Ori are frustrated because they don't know nothing about NX, even the specs, and random people around the web know all these details. Maybe these rumor are true, I'm not saying they are false for sure, but I'm still pretty sceptic.

 

[bomblord1]

Retro Studios is a part of Nintendo too and their own Metroid Prime engine was rooted in Unreal. And they are due another game this year.

Not saying this is true though.

This was a rumor that was never confirmed. The only "proof" ever presented was they both use the word cooked and had a similar approach to level streaming.

See this thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=457673&page=4

 

[DrROBschiz]

*Nintendo using anything else than their own engine.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I dunno

something about this guys leak feels plausible


jk its all hot garbage

 

[Mpl90]

"NEX" could look nice though, if you just don't tell people the real meaning.

"How's this console named?"
"It's the NEX, which stands for-"
"Nope. It's a cool name, I don't want you to ruin it for me by explaining its real meaning. I know it's going to be stupid and completely vaporise all the collness off the non-extended name. Nnnnope"
"But it stands for Nintendo Ex-"
"I CAN'T HEAR YOU, SURROUNDED BY THE AWESOMENESS THAT IS THE NEX, DUDE!"
"*whispers*...tra."

 

[Marvel]

If anything it's not stupid enough to be a Nintendo console name.

Ruh oh.

 

[Herb Alpert]

OK guys, let's all create new threads with ground breaking rumours on reddit! We will see whose rumour will get covered by dual pixels!

 

[Graphics Horse]

About the name being known by an indie dev, isn't Nintendo always waiting the last days before announcement to choose the final name? I'm almost sure they did with both Wii and Wii U.

I doubt anyone knows the final name. I guess EXTRA is a believable development codename though.

 

[Bots are better than you]

I doubt anyone knows the final name. I guess EXTRA is a believable development codename though.

I thought that's what's NX is for?

 

[Herb Alpert]

lol

 

[DrROBschiz]

OK guys, let's all create new threads with ground breaking rumours on reddit! We will see whose rumour will get covered by dual pixels!

lol

that reddit page is legit poison

They are slinging so many things at the wall that at least some of that info might end up being true

which is kind of dumb. I say unless your "leak" is 100% accurate you should be marked and discredited from ever leaking again

 

[ViridianHues]

"NEX" could look nice though, if you just don't tell people the real meaning.

I like this. Has a similar ring to "NES".

 

[TheJoRu]

If this guy gets verified then, lawdy lawd.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nintendo_NX/comments/4cyr2t/details_regarding_nx_console_nx_ue4_dev/

There's so much BS an external developer would never know here that it's almost funny. Almost.

 

[Pyrokai]

This isn't meant to be a crap post, but I'm honestly cobfused:

I can't tell if LCGeek is speculating, in-the-know, or telling us what he wants in the system. Can someone clear this up for me? Sorry for being dense.

 

[Graphics Horse]

I thought that's what's NX is for?

There's usually a code word, wouldn't surprise me if it's known by something different internally. Still, none of this is significant or relevelant to the final product, I don't believe any of these guys without evidence.

 

[James Scott]

This isn't meant to be a crap post, but I'm honestly cobfused:

I can't tell if LCGeek is speculating, in-the-know, or telling us what he wants in the system. Can someone clear this up for me? Sorry for being dense.

Speculating on online aspects and in the know with the CPU