bob_arctor
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People still shitting on Wondy's awesome theme?? *sigh* The youth of today.
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Batman v Superman Spoiler Thread: Don't believe everything you read, Son
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As much as I think both films are below average, I can really appreciate this. The timing is perfect and the way they visually align at times is fantastic.
These films are meant to be ridiculous.
#1 defender
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The MOS scenes in that clip are edited, the timing doesn't perfectly line up like that.
That's AWESOME. Really glad someone took the time to create that comparison.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Wonder Woman's theme was incredible and the most perfectly placed bit of score in the movie, outside of, perhaps, the reused song from Man of Steel during one part (can't remember which, unfortunately)
At many times throughout the film, i felt the soundtrack was intrusive and not indicative of the on-screen goings-on,but for that part.
At many times throughout the film, i felt the soundtrack was intrusive and not indicative of the on-screen goings-on,but for that part.
ThoseDeafMutes
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That opening was so damn good in BvS imo. I caught a few edits to make this fit but it's damn close.
I will forgive you since pop culture envisions aquaman from super friends still, but aquaman is actually a really great super hero and im excited for his movie. Cyborg i dont have the hate most do for him but a solo movie will be hard for him to hold. Aquaman does much more then communicate with fishes. Hope we get black manta in his movie.
redfirm
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So i just read the following about wonderwomen....
She Had a Blind Audition for Wonder Woman
Initially, Gal had no idea that she was auditioning for the role of Diana Prince/Wonder Woman. All she knew was that she was reading for a project that Zack Snyder was directing and had Ben Affleck attached as the male lead. During her first audition, she read some dialogue from Death Proof, Quentin Tarantino's segment of Grindhouse.
http://www.imdb.com/imdbpicks/gal-gadot-things-to-know/ls032758135?pf_rd_m=A2FGELUUNOQJNL&pf_rd_p=2451388662&pf_rd_r=0C32YN6QZQP396XTXYMG&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=15021&pf_rd_i=tt2975590&ref_=tt_bvs_title_cap_pri_3
She Had a Blind Audition for Wonder Woman
Initially, Gal had no idea that she was auditioning for the role of Diana Prince/Wonder Woman. All she knew was that she was reading for a project that Zack Snyder was directing and had Ben Affleck attached as the male lead. During her first audition, she read some dialogue from Death Proof, Quentin Tarantino's segment of Grindhouse.
http://www.imdb.com/imdbpicks/gal-gadot-things-to-know/ls032758135?pf_rd_m=A2FGELUUNOQJNL&pf_rd_p=2451388662&pf_rd_r=0C32YN6QZQP396XTXYMG&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=15021&pf_rd_i=tt2975590&ref_=tt_bvs_title_cap_pri_3
Inferno313
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I don't believe that.
She might not have known she was reading for Wonder Woman, but she has a bad agent if they couldn't figure out the Zack Snyder/Ben Affleck movie she was reading for was BvS.
That doesn't really excuse it.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
IMO the film should have opened on the first time we see Bruce driving through Gotham.
I heard that her first intuition was perhaps reading for Catwoman. I'm almost certain she was just as surprised as us that Wonder Woman was finally getting a big screen adaptation. It's common practice to not know which character you're auditioning for in large productions. And almost always they never read a line from the final script until they get the role.
I'm glad she nailed it; she's awesome for the role.
The amount of destruction in MoS really is ridiculous. What that scene reminded me the most was people back then saying that the area where Superman and Zod fought was already deserted, as a defense for Superman's apparent disregard for human life, heh (I may have actually been one of those). BvS makes it way clearer that is really not the case, and that Superman does not appear to care at all.
That sequence in BvS was really well executed, although unfortunately its effectiveness hinges upon the quality of the movie it's referencing.
Inferno313
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I'm sure that may have been the case, but the narrative has become that she didn't even know anything other than it being a Zack Snyder/Ben Affleck movie. Which everyone would've known was BvS by then.
The BvS scene starts skipping time pretty heavily when Bruce abandons his car (at 2:10) to run to the building, as you can see by how close he gets to the debris cloud, and that's where the MOS scene is mostly edited. But in the two halves they seem pretty synchronous.
SJRB
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Bruce Wayne is a very powerful man. You don't just get up and leave your desk without permission, even if half the city is getting pancaked.
American work culture is one hell of a depressing thing
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Lol I could not figure out why the fuck they were just standing around staring at a giant alien death machine a few blocks away from them
shortsFortallPeople
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it was a real dumb moment, like by then the whole city was likely being evacuated and yet there's a whole building waiting for bruce wayne to make the call that lets them leave.
If you think about it, their blood in on his hands really.
Dash_Riprock
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That makes him sound like a tyrant instead of the benevolent boss they were probably aiming for.
SJRB
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I heard he brands employees who return late from their lunch breaks.
It's a death sentence - they won't get hired anywhere else.
I think people wanted/want the movie to be "Great", not "alright", or "ok". The potential for a truly memorable and amazing experience is what's on the proverbial table, but we're not getting served that; we're just getting served instead...
Gal on the WW movie:
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/wo...der-woman-gal-gadot-movie-has-moments-humour/
- Some humour, but overall pretty DARK (reshoot rumours in 1...2...)
-"We go back 100 years to when she's more naïve,"
- "She's this young idealist. She's pure. Very different to the experienced, super-confident, grown-up woman you've seen."
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/wo...der-woman-gal-gadot-movie-has-moments-humour/
- Some humour, but overall pretty DARK (reshoot rumours in 1...2...)
-"We go back 100 years to when she's more naïve,"
- "She's this young idealist. She's pure. Very different to the experienced, super-confident, grown-up woman you've seen."
Dash_Riprock
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WB are gonna keep trying to make another TDK until it works, goddammit!
Keep fuckin' that chicken. Guess I'll wait until reviews before I bite.
Well, sharing the same screenwriter as Pan doesn't bode confidence in this one.
Pai Pai Master
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#1 defender
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To be fair, most of the damage to the city was done by the world engine, while Superman was still busy fighting its counterpart on the other side of the world. That whole sequence went on way longer than the actual Superman vs. Zod fight, which was done after 5 minutes. Not that he went out of his way to prevent more damage though.
The writers don't make the movie. And the original Pan screenplay was great. It's really up to the filmmakers to bring that vision to life.
Dash_Riprock
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And you can bet your ass one of them will be Jimmy Olsen's great grandpa!
Pai Pai Master
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NotoriousPUG
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Glad they're staying with the serious route. We already have one company making playful romps, let DC do something different.
Those that defend it by questioning who'd rather watch Superman attempt to minimalise destruction honestly confuse me. Having Superman handicapped like that would have only made the fight more interesting, and come across all the more heroic for it.
Wonder Woman is taking place during events of World War 1. I don't see how that shit isn't dark. That's one of the big problems I had with the first Captain America film. That wasn't dark enough considered the setting it was being placed in. You do a huge disservice when you don't try to at least present a setting appropriately when you're dealing with live action and historical settings and events.
Yes dark for the sake of dark isn't good. However if the subject matter and setting calls for it then it should be okay.
Yes dark for the sake of dark isn't good. However if the subject matter and setting calls for it then it should be okay.
She never said she didn't know it was BvS. She just didn't know what character she was reading for. She assumed since she was auditioning with Affleck that the character was Catwoman.
I've never seen that narrative before until you posted it. She's always said she didn't know what the character was she was auditioning for. That's very common for actors not to be told who they're reading for. They can make assumptions like she did. That was it. Not once has anyone ever suggested she didn't know it was for the Batman v Superman film, etc.
HanzSnubSnub
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So I saw this a few days ago and I thought it was alright. I went in with zero expectations, and I'm a pretty easy-going movie watcher, so I was really hoping that I would like it. Unfortunately, like everyone else, I did notice quite a lot of flaws with it. It's a shame really, cause there are some epic moments in there that would have made a great movie.
I really loved the opening! Man of Steel was pretty forgettable, so I was confused at first what was going on. But once I realized this was where Man of Steel ended, it all clicked and I thought it was awesome. However, after this scene is where the movie took a nosedive for me.
For about the next hour and a half, the pacing was awful. I understood what they were going for, but they jumped around way too fast and it completely muddled the experience. It made it hard to follow along, and there was really no character build up at all, just a bunch of different scenes stringed together that couldn't keep my interest. The dreams/future sequences were the worst for me. The pacing was already trash, but the dreams/future stuff made following along like homework. And then afterword you find out it's a dream... I don't know, it just didn't work for me.
The last hour it started to get better for me. While Batman fighting Superman was interesting, it wasn't a highlight for me. It was enjoyable seeing Batman, WW, and Superman all fighting Doomsday together, and I did like the ending. (soil included)
Batfleck was good, but I didn't like Batman killing people at all. Like he was murdering a ton of people and blowing shit up, and I don't care what the comics say, that's not Batman. Cavill was ok, but he always has the same facial expression. Would it kill the writers to give him some more depth? Wonder Women was great, but she was pretty insignificant with only ~10 minutes of screen time.
Lex was ok, but I think there was a lot of room for improvement. I've never read the comics, but isn't he supposed to be smooth and calculating, not a stuttering awkward mess?
The "commercial break" for the Flash, Aquaman and whoever else was in the folder was obviously shoehorned in there. I wish it was done more creatively.
To sum it up, it's an alright movie. It's probably going to be forgotten, just like Man of Steel. I really wish the first hour and a half was replaced with something else. When it finally started getting better, it was already too late for me.
I'm glad I saw it, but the real disappointment is the amount of lost potential.
I really loved the opening! Man of Steel was pretty forgettable, so I was confused at first what was going on. But once I realized this was where Man of Steel ended, it all clicked and I thought it was awesome. However, after this scene is where the movie took a nosedive for me.
For about the next hour and a half, the pacing was awful. I understood what they were going for, but they jumped around way too fast and it completely muddled the experience. It made it hard to follow along, and there was really no character build up at all, just a bunch of different scenes stringed together that couldn't keep my interest. The dreams/future sequences were the worst for me. The pacing was already trash, but the dreams/future stuff made following along like homework. And then afterword you find out it's a dream... I don't know, it just didn't work for me.
The last hour it started to get better for me. While Batman fighting Superman was interesting, it wasn't a highlight for me. It was enjoyable seeing Batman, WW, and Superman all fighting Doomsday together, and I did like the ending. (soil included)
Batfleck was good, but I didn't like Batman killing people at all. Like he was murdering a ton of people and blowing shit up, and I don't care what the comics say, that's not Batman. Cavill was ok, but he always has the same facial expression. Would it kill the writers to give him some more depth? Wonder Women was great, but she was pretty insignificant with only ~10 minutes of screen time.
Lex was ok, but I think there was a lot of room for improvement. I've never read the comics, but isn't he supposed to be smooth and calculating, not a stuttering awkward mess?
The "commercial break" for the Flash, Aquaman and whoever else was in the folder was obviously shoehorned in there. I wish it was done more creatively.
To sum it up, it's an alright movie. It's probably going to be forgotten, just like Man of Steel. I really wish the first hour and a half was replaced with something else. When it finally started getting better, it was already too late for me.
I'm glad I saw it, but the real disappointment is the amount of lost potential.
See: Superman 2
The fight between Superman and Zod's goons in Metropolis gets way more interesting the moment Zod picks up on the fact that Superman cares about the citizens of planet Houston. Because then it becomes a battle on two fronts for Superman.
I hope it's going suprise me, i still can't get enough of hero flicks and also people said "a movie with a guy who can shrink himself and runs with Ant? lulz" and it worked.
Any good comic showing good Aquaman stuff?
Poodlestrike
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His New 52 solo series has been pretty good throughout, especially the Geoff Johns and John Parker stuff. This Aquaman seems like he's more based on the 90's incarnation, with the beard and whatnot. The barbarian king.
I really wish the Doomsday fight was that.
Superman getting the shit kicked out of him in the middle of Metropolis and as the fight progresses you realize it's because he's so pre-occupied with saving people, and making sure another 'Black Zero' doesn't occur. Then you can have him near death to show he was willing to die to save everyone, and have Wonder Woman even the fight out.
But nooooo, take the fight to some deserted area and ignore the dramatic potential of a Superman who wants to save civilians.
The_blonde_and_blue
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Me and few friends just booked some seats to see this Saturday and the entire theater was empty. Completely empty.
That was surprising.
Should I lower my expectations now?
That was surprising.
Should I lower my expectations now?
That would require Zack Snyder actually understanding and addressing the criticisms of the first movie, and visually depict Superman's character development as a man who grew as a hero.
You won't believe what scene Zack Snyder cut from the film for being too dark!
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04...ene-explains-pivotal-batman-v-superman-moment
For those wondering why Superman didn't hear Martha being kidnapped
No word if its in the director's cut
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04...ene-explains-pivotal-batman-v-superman-moment
For those wondering why Superman didn't hear Martha being kidnapped
No word if its in the director's cut
Depends on high your expectations were.
So basically he'd listen for Lois and Ma Kent over the cries of everyone else?
What a shitty God.
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