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Prompto said:
I think the opening weekend will be less than DOFP no matter how good it is because 1. It's opening the same day as the Alice sequel when the original made a billion and 2. Same month as Civil War when that will be huge.

It's got an uphill fight against it. The week after that is the TMNT sequel which won't be good for legs either. They picked a poor time to release it even if it is Memorial Day weekend.
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The fact that the Doc Strange teaser is just 3 million views off the last Apoc trailer in less than a week is weird. There really doesn't seem to be much interest. No Wolverine, no old cast seems to hurt.

Fox is going to have to pull a Marvel and screen it a month early to critics, with at least a 3 week lift of the embargo before release imo.
 
$28 million is higher than I expected for Huntsman

PhoncipleBone said:
I don't see Alice making too big a dent with this one. Of course, Civil War might actually hurt X-Men more than we think in the end. It is coming only a few weeks prior, and even if most of the gas will be out of the tank by then, since it seems to be well received already could dampen enthusiasm for X-Men.
DoFP was coming a few weeks after the disappointing ASM2 in 2014, so that might have helped it. Who knows.

But Alice just seems like something that will kinda come and go like a mild fart. It will make its presence known, then quickly dissipate into the air.
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Yeah Alice doesn't seem to have much buzz at all. That's true.
 
kswiston said:
Updates from Boxoffice.com's long range projections

The Huntsman was bumped down to $28M opening/$68M total. We'll get their final prediction on Wednesday, but WOM seems pretty weak.

Their prediction for Civil War was bumped up to $182M opening/$490M total.

Warcraft, The Conjuring 2, and Now You See Me 2 were added for the first time.

Box office is giving Warcraft an initial $35M OW/$78M total prediction. NYSM2 got $23M opening/$65M total (the first film opened to $29M, and made close to $120M). The Conjuring got $45M opening and $105M total.
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I think that is too high on Warcraft. Movie is going to be a complete disaster domestically. I could see something like a 15-18 mil opening weekend and doing 50-60 mil total.
 
BLACKLAC said:
The fact that the Doc Strange teaser is just 3 million views off the last Apoc trailer in less than a week is weird. There really doesn't seem to be much interest. No Wolverine, no old cast seems to hurt.

Fox is going to have to pull a Marvel and screen it a month early to critics, with at least a 3 week lift of the embargo before release imo.
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The Doctor Strange trailer is an ad on YouTube now which kinda inflates views. And the first trailer for Apocalypse still has a ton of views. Only about 5 million off from the first Civil War trailer. I don't think Apocalypse will do as well as Deadpool or Days of Future Past but it should at least still be the third highest grossing X-Men film. If it's not third best, then Fox will probably hit the panic button and have Deadpool or Wolverine in all X films
 
Lucas said:
Do we know the budget of Ratchet and Clank? Wonder if it's actually going to be one of the biggest bombs of the year.
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$25M CAD according to Rainmaker Entertainment (excluding 25% Canadian tax rebate). It's not going to outright bomb or set records, it'll be a nice revenue stream for the company, nothing more.

Prompto said:
Has he had any success outside of Marvel? Seems like he's only been in bombs
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Outside of Star Trek and Rush, not really.

Ghostbusters am cry.

Edit: How the hell does BoxOffice Pro have Angry Birds Movie at $43,000,000 OW and $140,000,000 DT??????
 
kswiston said:
Updates from Boxoffice.com's long range projections

The Huntsman was bumped down to $28M opening/$68M total. We'll get their final prediction on Wednesday, but WOM seems pretty weak.

Their prediction for Civil War was bumped up to $182M opening/$490M total.

Warcraft, The Conjuring 2, and Now You See Me 2 were added for the first time.

Box office is giving Warcraft an initial $35M OW/$78M total prediction. NYSM2 got $23M opening/$65M total (the first film opened to $29M, and made close to $120M). The Conjuring got $45M opening and $105M total.
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Holy crap Warcraft! If those est hold that's brutal. What's the Prod Budget at? Can't find any info on it. 200M?

Cant't wait for Conjuring 2.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
I dunno about Apocalypse. It is coming off the most successful X-Men team film (I had to add the team modifier because of Deadpool), and was one of the most well received entries in the series and comic films of the last several years.
Add in the addition of a recognizable bad guy for most people (even if Apocalypse sucks), and the same creative team as DoFP, and it has just about everything going for it.

I think it will set the opening weekend record for an X-Team film at least. After that, it is all about how well the film turns out. I think the opening weekend will be big because of the goodwill that DoFP gave them.
Shit, I am ready for Singer to do whatever he wants after finally giving me a worthy sequel to X2 after more than a decade.
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Apocalypse isn't a recognizable villain for anyone who doesn't read comics or hasn't seen the show.
 
One thing Xmen has going for it is that maybe after half a year of hearing about heroes fighting heroes, people just want a good okd good vs evil rock em sock em without the subversion and manipulation.
 
duckroll said:
Wouldn't really bother me if Pixar never makes an original movie again tbh, since personally I've moved on from seeing Pixar as some unique flower of a studio working on amazing creative works. Disney Animation Studios has been showing them up for a while now I feel. Both creatively and commercially.

I care more about filmmakers than studio brands. It would certainly be depressing if Brad Bird never made an original movie again. But since he can do live action as well now, it's probably not a huge issue for him. I'm not really seeing there being an epidemic of creative talent being stuck working on franchise stuff which is a waste of their talent. Look at the people who actually direct Marvel and DC films, and I don't think anyone can honestly say "they're being wasted on that" when most of the directors are actually getting opportunities to boost their own profile working on these films before moving on. No one is really stuck on them.
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Definitely. Disney Animation Studios has been putting out one quality movie after the other. As far as i am concerned Disney has surpassed Pixar 3-4 years ago, and never looked back.

To be frank i was very disappointed in Inside out. The whole internal journey was shite.
 
Pretty cool tweets on Ang Lee's new movie. 120fps 4K 3D

Seems really impressive....

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Have just seen the first showing of the 3D/4K/120 "Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk" footage. NO SPOILERS (more)
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First, let's say up front, it's causing a sensation here at the Future of Cinema Conference #NABShow People are super-excited.
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It was a helluva power room watching that first showing: "Avatar" producer Jon Landau, @ILMVFX legend Dennis Muren, and many more. #NABshow
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Doug Trumbull had a big group in the VIP section for the first showing. His reax: It's going to change the industry. #NABShow
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Dennis Muren was grinning ear to ear when he congratulated Ang Lee afterward. #NABShow
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My reax: First, it doesn't look like video, but it doesn't look like 24-frame film, either. It's something new. (more) #NABShow
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Second: This isn't just a novelty, or tech for tech's sake. Perfect match of material with format. This clarity = storytelling. #NABshow
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I don't know the future, but this seems to me like it really is something to bring people back to theaters. #NABShow
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FWIW, @JimCameron told me he thinks 60 frames/second is enough, which means many people could see something close to what we saw. #NABShow
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.@HowardLukk after seeing the "Billy Lynn" footage: "Stunned... the best #3D I've ever seen... absolutely amazing. #NABShow
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General consensus on 3D/4K/120 is: feels like video for the first few seconds, but then it goes way beyond. #3D feels flawless. #NABShow
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Tech tidbit: I'm told that at 120 fps, digital noise goes by so fast you can't even perceive it. Less need to clean it up. #NABShow
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This really does feel like being present for history being made, like people will be bragging about having been here. #NABShow
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Full 4K on each eye, both eyes at 120fps. Presentation was on dual high-end Christie projectors, 28 foot-Lamberts. https://t.co/ju8y455MUC
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Exciting stuff!
 
Apocalypse has plenty of hype, i mean the trailer that was released last month has over 16.5 million views.
Prompto said:
Has he had any success outside of Marvel? Seems like he's only been in bombs
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Yeah bro, he had the massively successful well recognized movie, and that movie is called Blackhat.
 
Toxi said:
Sobody would be complaining about that if the movie was actually good.

See: Tim Burton's Batman.
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Only Batman movie from '89 onwards with no bat kills is Batman & Robin. Which I guess goes to show that staying true to the source material is extremely important.
 
duckroll said:
One thing Xmen has going for it is that maybe after half a year of hearing about heroes fighting heroes, people just want a good okd good vs evil rock em sock em without the subversion and manipulation.
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Isn't X-Men going to be Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey vs Storm, Psylocke, Angel?

Team superhero movies just can't get away from this year's theme.
 
Popstar said:
Isn't X-Men going to be Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey vs Storm, Psylocke, Angel?

Team superhero movies just can't get away from this year's theme.
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Yeah but none of those are established as heroes here. So while it does have a bit of that, it can also been seen as a straight good vs bad thing with the baddies eventually going the Xmen later. Apocalyse is a clear villain leading a team of bad people with Magneto by his side. BvS and Civil War don't have that.
 
jey_16 said:
damn....didnt realise The Good Dinosaur flopped, $330m gross on a $200m budget. Really weird after the success of Inside Out
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It's a really bad/mediocre story, with great visuals. It was in a development hell. They should've just scrapped it. It's the shittiest Pixar movie.

Dash_Riprock said:
Universal praying the Chinese love Warcraft. Only thing that will save this movie now.
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I doubt anyone gets excited over it. Too bad for Duncan Jones. I like his movies.
 
AmaterasuOni said:
It's a really bad/mediocre story, with great visuals. It was in a development hell. They should've jsut scrapped it. It's the shittiest Pixar movie.



I doubt anyone gets excited over it. Too bad for Duncan Jones. I like his movies.
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I, and my friends are looking forward to this movie. I will predict that the movie will be successful WW.
 
Calm waterfall said:
I, and my friends are looking forward to this movie. I will predict that the movie will be successful WW.
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I don't believe it will be. From what I've seen it does almost nothing to Warcraft fans, even GAF, the gamers (nerds and alike), are quite cold towards it. Same goes for other gaming forums. Who are going to watch it then? Fantasy fans who watched LOTR and Potters? I doubt it. I really don't know who the audience could or would be.

It looks ugly, loud and senseless. It's just those big summer movies which have no substance I'm afraid. And it's based on a game. Game movie failure rate must be near 100 %.

Let's hope you're right, but I think it's going to be the biggest bomb of 2016. I've seen zero hype. The trailers are being mocked upon. Poor Duncan.
 
AmaterasuOni said:
It's a really bad/mediocre story, with great visuals. It was in a development hell. They should've just scrapped it. It's the shittiest Pixar movie
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I haven't seen it, but I think the trailers looking horrible didn't help the film. With that I mean the huge disconnect between the world (organic and detailed) and it's characters (very cartoony and simple).

I grew up with Pixar and was a massive fan as a kid, but honestly feel they are way too overrated. Even though other studios definitely have worse track records when the whole output is taken together, I feel the best animation features haven't been from Pixar for a long while now.
 
Harmen said:
I haven't seen it, but I think the trailers looking horrible didn't help the film. With that I mean the huge disconnect between the world (organic and detailed) and it's characters (very cartoony and simple).

I grew up with Pixar and was a massive fan as a kid, but honestly feel they are way too overrated. Even though other studios definitely have worse track records when the whole output is taken together, I feel the best animation features haven't been from Pixar for a long while now.
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Inside Out is one of my favorite movies in recent years. Without Mad Max and Sicario it would've been my 2015 MOTY. Then there's The Little Prince and Zootopia. Both absolutely fabulous but not Pixar movies.

I don't know. Pixar is one of my favorite studios, but now Disney is making a huge comeback as they're ditching the singalongs. I really hate singalongs. I didn't like Frozen at all because of all that singing.

All I can say is that it's good to be an animation fan these days. :)
 
kswiston said:
Updates from Boxoffice.com's long range projections

Box office is giving Warcraft an initial $35M OW/$78M total prediction. NYSM2 got $23M opening/$65M total (the first film opened to $29M, and made close to $120M). The Conjuring got $45M opening and $105M total.
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Their Conjuring 2 prediction feels a little low. When a 'cheap and cheerful' spin off in Annabelle ends up with $84m domestic I think that a well reviewed Conjuring sequel could easily out gross the original ($130m+) and become the horror film of the summer.
 
AmaterasuOni said:
Inside Out is one of my favorite movies in recent years. Without Mad Max and Sicario it would've been my 2015 MOTY. Then there's The Little Prince and Zootopia. Both absolutely fabulous but not Pixar movies.

I don't know. Pixar is one of my favorite studios, but now Disney is making a huge comeback as they're ditching the singalongs. I really hate singalongs. I didn't like Frozen at all because of all that singing.

All I can say is that it's good to be an animation fan these days. :)
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John Lasseter is the Chief Creative Officer of both Disney Animation and Pixar now (has been since 2006). I don't think it's any coincidence that Disney Animation saw an uptick in quality once Lasseter became CCO. You could also argue Pixar's "decline" since 2006 is because he couldn't focus strictly on them anymore.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Will he drag Ghostbusters down with him?.
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I imagine Ghostbusters would of dragged itself down with or without Hemsworth.

Actually only thing I actually found funny in the two Ghostbusters trailers was Hemsworth's stupid Ghostbuster logo designs in the international trailer.
 
The Good Dinosaur isn't as bad as the internet is making it out to be. Beautiful visuals, and an interesting take on the western/coming of age trope, even if it has numerous problems that mess up the execution.

It's low tier Pixar, but I would take it over brainless shit like Ice Age 4.

Busty said:
Their Conjuring 2 prediction feels a little low. When a 'cheap and cheerful' spin off in Annabelle ends up with $84m domestic I think that a well reviewed Conjuring sequel could easily out gross the original ($130m+) and become the horror film of the summer.
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I wonder if they think that 3 major releases that weekend will hurt the film a bit?

Two month out predictions aren't super accurate though, so who knows.
 
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