Western Localisation Of Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Features Costume And Age Changes
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When the age is raised to 18, it's not arbitrary.
Nobody wants to be the publisher that puts out "pedo filth" if there was suggestive content going on with underage characters. That's the reason why DOA5 aged up all the characters that were previously underage in the series.
Let me RT this post so it doens't get lost in the last page.
I already have my Special Edition pre-ordered because the game looks tight.
timetokill
Banned
Ah, I see. Well then, either way, I still think it's a stupid idea.
That was only for that sweet, sweet gamer cred though.
Linkstrikesback
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I'll bite.
Because maybe it's possible to still get enjoyment out of the game even if some of the characters aren't wearing swimsuits during one particular dungeon?
Scientist Supreme!
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If she was still there it would be.
You want to play as a sexually provocative 8 year old with big tits?
Why keep changing things? Especially this one, it doesn't even have a dub. Who does Nintendo think this will appeal to? I just don't understand why these changes keep getting made. Yes, they're minimal and they change nothing integral to the game but I just don't get it. So many other localizers don't care and the games getting changed aren't even things that would typically fit with Nintendo's family friendly image anyways. I'll likely still get the game and the changes won't affect my decision but it's just becoming a little annoying.
Suzushiiro
Banned
This is starting to get a little ridiculous. It's one thing when they do changes like this for a game that could conceivably appeal to younger audiences whose source of games is their (potentially) relatively conservative parents, but this is a spinoff of a franchise that hasn't released a main line entry with an ESRB rating below M since the 90s and is so fucking weeaboo they're not even bothering with a dub. Absolutely fucking nobody who could possibly be interested in buying this game or paying attention to it at all would have a problem with this content.
WiiRevolution1
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I plan on it, tho it depends on a few money factors. That being said, I should make this a priority since I don't see the physical release having much of a life.
Hope there are no story changes, hate this censorship, but story changes would be the worst.
I wonder what is in that Hot Springs DLC that Nintendo felt that they could not bring it over, after all Fire Emblem: Fates and Awakening had Hot Spring and Beach DLC...
Unless the Hot Spring DLC is as problematic as the one ATLUS made for Etrian Untold 2:
At least the boss was easy. :0
I think the changes are stupid and wouldn't even really change the rating. I will still buy it and I am sure unless you know what to look for you won't even notice it, but it's still stupid as fuck.
WrenchNinja
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Good.
I'm going to keep that in mind once another witch hunt for an Atlus or Nintendo employee starts in the coming days.
You don't like it, tough, it's reality and its related to types of localization involving things like this.
I will, however, save it for the inevitable thread coming soon.
Sakura
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But there are still characters under the age of 18 in the game...? So raising the age of three characters from 17 to 18 makes no sense really, especially when they don't do anything particularly provocative (especially the boys)
what
reminiscingLemon
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Yknow the Localization argument would be fine if it was just the age being raised to 18
That would just be a change and not something actually being removed
That would just be a change and not something actually being removed
Japan gonna Japan but those characters should be 18 from the start
You mean that you couldn't care less.
Glad that someone said it. So much thirst for drama here sometimes.
Pancake Mix
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Atlus did not make these changes independently. Nintendo's statement said as much.
You don't want to give Atlus money for small changes to a game they developed? What kind of absurd brand of self-righteousness is that?
Crash Station
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Age raise is whatever, but the other censorship is annoying. Not deal-breaking, but annoying.
Age change and dungeon change seem fine. The lost DLC is disconcerting even though I wouldn't have bought it. I'd have figured that optional content would be less scrutinized (plus the bikinis shouldn't be a problem with more girls being 18).
Doesn't seem like a huge deal to me so I'll probably still get this.
Doesn't seem like a huge deal to me so I'll probably still get this.
dakkumauji
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from the other thread:
so literally nothing really worth not bringing over unless swimsuits are way too SCANDALOUS for NOA which I guess they are at this point
Nintendo's original statement:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...tendo-published-tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe.aspx
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...tendo-published-tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe.aspx
Palculator
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Might do the same if the price here is actually 70€ as Amazon.de lists it. Not gonna pay more for a bad release. It's common for games to go down in price shortly before release, though, so let's positive thinking.
If I recall, Nintendo seemed to be prepared for the game to be Rated M. I guess once they saw there was a way to reduce it to T they asked Atlus to do some changes. I personally don't mind, since so far it just seems like an outfit change and a minor age change.
I don't care, they can fuck right off.
I'd rather give it to a gamestop if this is what they do, I don't particularly care for what's being cut but the act of cutting it at all makes me not want to support them.
SolidSnakex
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There isn't anything about that content that would've netted the a M rating. Bikinis aren't going to push the ESRB to a M rating.
Kandrick
GAF's Ed McMahon
Because Atlus is a shitty company.
Nothing removed warrants a M rating.
Abstrusity
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Hah, joke's on you, Fatlus! One-piece swimsuits are better than bikinis anyway!
If you care more about these changes than the rest of the game Atlus developed, to the point that you think the developer doesn't deserve your money, why are you even playing the game?
They anticipated it, but I strongly suspect they were basing it on how Atlus' other RPGs have gotten higher age ratings in the west versus Japan. Persona 3 and 4 had the same CERO rating as #FE, so I can see why they would think that happen again.
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Jotamide
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So rumors have been confirmed then.
Sure, the same company that brought us PG-friendly games like Conception 2 and Dungeon Travelers 2 did these changes out of their own volition. I'm not into this kind of stuff but it pisses me off that NoA wants to pass on the burden of these changes to Atlus, well knowing that a big part of the audience will be pissed off by them. Even if Atlus was in charge of localization, Treehouse was probably breathing behind their backs. At least have some spine NoA and back up your position. If you're gonna make changes, stand by them and take the heat.
Sure, the same company that brought us PG-friendly games like Conception 2 and Dungeon Travelers 2 did these changes out of their own volition. I'm not into this kind of stuff but it pisses me off that NoA wants to pass on the burden of these changes to Atlus, well knowing that a big part of the audience will be pissed off by them. Even if Atlus was in charge of localization, Treehouse was probably breathing behind their backs. At least have some spine NoA and back up your position. If you're gonna make changes, stand by them and take the heat.
Not going to pay full price for a censored product in a month with 5 other Japanese games I want (SO5, Atelier Sophie, Zero Time Dilemma, Grand Kingdom and Odin Sphere) coming out that will be uncensored.
NinjaCoachZ
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Seems more like they were just casting that as a safety net, worst-case-scenario type thing. To be honest games like Persona 3 and 4 are really soft Ms anyway.
Bayonetta 2 isn't their IP. This is a Fire Emblem game. They're cool with people doing whatever with their own franchises but things are different if you use one of their own.
I hope there aren't any story changes either. The only thing I am worried about is the 2nd dungeon and how they will do Tsubasa and Maiko's development in that chapter because that dungeon and scenario is really one where you get to see Tsubasa push herself and find courage to do what she needs to do to make her dreams come true. And a lot of that inspiration comes from Maiko and her interactions with her throughout this dungeon.
I don't understand the posts that say good that there are changes or anything like that as the game itself has nothing that warrants any issues. This game is less of an idol game and less of a fan service game than Yakuza 5, Tales of Series, and other RPG series. It's one thing to not like the game and not be interested in it, but it's another thing to continue to slander it when you have no intent on buying it in the first place.
At the same time it shouldn't be a huge end of the world deal that there are some slight changes, it doesn't detract from the fact the game is really good and it deserves and needs the sales it can get. The game has a lot of positive things going for it.
Nintendo and Atlus are in the wrong for making these changes, but to punish such a good and unique game doesn't really feel right. As there isn't anything like this and I'm amazed that this game was even able to come out in Japanese and English. It really embodies the idea of bringing what the developers want to come to life and it is the game they really wanted to make.
Makes sense. I'm just trying to think why they would do such a minor change for a game that's Rated T. The family friendly excuse has always bothered me, there's gotta be more to it.
go_straight
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Nope.
Apparently Nintendo want to sell this game to families and children. They are probably going to butcher the translation so that doesn't have anything offensive.
I'm not their demographic for this game.
Even with the Nintendo IP costumes?
Some people REALLY want this to be about GG bouncing from thread to thread with this shit. There should be like a GG signal.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
All told, doesn't seem like anything too major. But removing content like this shouldn't even be a thing in the first place. It's just kind of silly that this seems to come up so frequently.
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