Ghost_Messiah
Member
Bond: Scorpio, do you expect me to talk?
Scorpio: No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!
And that's all I have to add to the thread.
Scorpio: No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!
And that's all I have to add to the thread.
Polygon: Xbox Scorpio will be a ~6 TFLOP system (v PS4K's 4.14), unveil soon, Fall 17
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I doubt it's gonna be named xbox one, that name is fucked as far as this gen goes, the faster they get rid of it the better.
They could go with Xbox 4k or something, or Xbox X/10 to go with their Windows shit.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Much less than you would think
an 800 dollar pc comes with a powerful cpu. If you settle for a potato cpu like the jaguar in these things then you can build it for MUCH less (as mobo+cpu is already more than half of that 800 dollars for most people)
The r9 390x equivalent from polaris (which is what this would be) is probably going to be somewhere around 200 dollars. +100 for case+psu, +100 for jaguar equivalent cpu (like an athlon x4 or a pentium) and motherboard , + 30 for ram +40 for a hard drive and you'd be there.
So these parts are plenty affordable for MS to put into a console especially as they don't pay nearly as much for their parts as you and me do at retail.
It's not a 600 dollar gpu, maybe 200-250 dollars max (polaris 10)
rokkerkory
Member
I bet it'll be 5.6 TF max
Art Vandilay
Member
Yet equally as helpful as 99% of posts.
dano1
A Sheep
Rodman wrote the book but Lebron definitely read it!
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
What's with everyone quoting a $600 price for a consumer GPU as if
A) Microsoft is using a consumer retail GPU in this thing
B) Even if they were, like that's the price they'd be paying?
I mean, what sort of volume do you think AMD sells of their high end GPUs? That's a part of their cost. They don't expect to sell a tonne of them.
Microsoft would be ordering millions off them. So they'd be paying far less than you'd think.
I mean even the 2TB hard drives. I, as a regular consumer can get a packaged, 2TB Seagate drive for under $100. Microsoft would be paying a fraction of that for raw drives.
A) Microsoft is using a consumer retail GPU in this thing
B) Even if they were, like that's the price they'd be paying?
I mean, what sort of volume do you think AMD sells of their high end GPUs? That's a part of their cost. They don't expect to sell a tonne of them.
Microsoft would be ordering millions off them. So they'd be paying far less than you'd think.
I mean even the 2TB hard drives. I, as a regular consumer can get a packaged, 2TB Seagate drive for under $100. Microsoft would be paying a fraction of that for raw drives.
In light of the Xbox dashboard/interface on Windows 10 for E3:
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
The thing is, at least from my point of view, the people who evangelise on behalf of Sony are not the people who typically make their consoles a success.
Sony's best asset is they are very successful at capturing that market that straddles the line between casual and hardcore, the type of people who see the PS4 as another gadget first and a games console second.
Microsoft on the other hand, has a very hardcore following, but outside of that, most are ambivalent to what they do, especially outside of English speaking territories.
Microsoft needs to learn how to make a "must have" product. I feel the closest they have ever got with that is surface and 360.
On UWP? no thanks. the sooner that fails the better for everyone.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
sounds like a fairy tale. But I will let you dream.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
I think we're getting there; UC4 looks phenomenal and Dreams looks as good as it does w/o even using polygons, but is probably still using a lot of compute tricks in lieu of that. Between those and stuff like Horizon we'd probably start reaching a saturation point in how far current-gen consoles can be pushed visually on pure technical merits, tho those games also have fantastic art direction to aid in their presentation.
Pathfinder
Member
UWP is the future of Xbox and Windows interactivity. Better get used to it.
anexanhume
Member
Given the codename, the release date seems a little too easy to guess. IMO, the CPU will be much more interesting than the GPU given how much that seems to limit current gen in some cases.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Well tough luck for you dude, it will not be going anywhere. Unless MSFT goes bankrupt. Everything is riding on UWP for the company atm.
Hidden One
Member
Well not surprising if the Xbox upgrade is better than the PS4 upgrade. Specs for the PS4 upgrade have been around for a while no?
you think MS waited till sonys specs leaked ? lmao
Well I mean I don't know about the PC thing, though if MS wants to get people to use their store, Red Dead will do it.
Anyways, I posted before about the surprise announcement. I think they're going to announce something, and whatever it is, will be related to GWG, I don't really think they'd do it but maybe every XB1/360 BC game is on the Win10 store, and they have PC GWG aswell with RDR as a GWG so PC can get it aswell by paying a month of gold? Could be a good trojan horse into getting PC guys to pay for xbox live for the free games. But then again, you'd think they'd give Sunset Overdrive this month instead of April if they were going to do that. Dunno but I do feel like they're gonna announce something.
rokkerkory
Member
So getting both ps4k and xbox1.5 will be amazeballs.
F that choose a side right now! your making other posters nervous
MS needs the power advantage to compete, wont be surprised if their box has more ooomph
LukasTaves
Member
I'm totally expecting that and a sort of exclusive deal (mostly marketing, bundle and dlc) on RDR2 as well.
vpance
Gold Member
More awesome than owning a PS4 and Xbone, that's for sure.
A lot of 4k sets don't do 1440p though, so probably ain't gonna happen.
rokkerkory
Member
Rubs my NX... does that count?
Night Angel
Member
But it's not the future of PC gaming, so... can't a fella hope it gets a standard PC release instead of this draconian horseshit?
you mean a steam release for their games ? why the fuck would they do that ?
Night Angel
Member
Red Dead is a MS IP?
TLZ
Banned
Not a smart cookie are you?
What?
I was talking about if Xbox 360 BC were to make it to PC via the rumored Xbox interface on Windows 10 a la Steam Big Picture.
So an emulated version of the Xbox 360 game, not a re-release.
I would do this if the last time i had turned on my Xbox wasn't when Halo 5 came out :/ Probably still will... Damn those exclusives.
Then again with Microsofts PC initiative I might just upgrade my PC and buy the Neo, best of all 3 worlds?
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thehillissilent
Member
I would perfectly be okay with that.
Hockeymac18
Member
I've seen this thought process here more than once.
I'm going to blow your mind here, every game that releases for Scorpio will be a UWA.
Can someone explain what microsoft's plan is here. If, ultimately, they are planning on releasing all xbone (whatever iteration) games on PC, what incentive is there for any PC users to purchase an xbox? As an xbone owner I don't know what about this plan is making me want to buy an xbox. If anything it's making it more and more likely that I'll keep my current PC setup and buy whatever the new sony console is out for those exclusives.Perhaps they don't care where we play there games as long as we're playing them, but I can't see the console selling gangbusters if most of msoft content is going to be available on windows.
Night Angel
Member
Oh, my bad. I misunderstood - that would be well within reason for MS to limit BC to UWA. I thought you were suggesting announcement of a PC version.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Simple answer THEY DON'T care if you game on Xbox or PC. You are in their eco system either ways. They will get your money.
But it will be a shitload less cause people will buy games on steam instead of from Microsoft. People will only buy those exclusives from Microsoft and nothing else. At least on xbox they get money from every game sold.
they're hoping the Xbox ecosystem on Windows is enticing enough to get them to buy games on the windows store instead of steam
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Hopefully after the announcement for the new Red Dead though. BC is fun stuff and all, but good good lord I want to see what a new Red Dead looks like on the current or actually new hardware.
It's probably best to not get my hopes up for new hardware announcements. Better to just take the wait and see approach.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Let's say it's $450 you won't get a PC with say a 1070gtx anywhere near that price. But if you already have a more powerful PC well l wouldn't be bothering with Xbox but look to Neo for its exclusive games.
"[RDR BC on Xbox and W10]...and noooooowwww, here's Red Dead Redmeption 2!!!"
*Crowd passes out collectively from all the excitement*
Especially for people who own both an Xbox console and a PC, and thus can take advantage of buying it once and playing it everywhere with cross-buy.
how crazy would it be if they tried the same shit with RDR as they did with tomb raider and exclusivity?
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
They will have to make it more compelling. And I am sure that's what they are going to do.
Freeman
Banned
In your case I think there is no advantage in getting an Xbox if you already game on PC. Unless the hardware they are making is priced aggressively and has a bettter CxB than buying a PC with a similar spec(no way this will ever happen).