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Digitimes: NX mass production delayed to early 2017, VR integration, hybrid(?)

This really had better not be true...Skipping this fall because they cannot get their lineup ducks in a row--regrettable, but a strong and steady launch year is probably more important than a couple strong launch months. That said, NX needs to come out sooner rather than later as much as it possibly can at this point. Every year the generation is more decided and there are less people still on 360s and PS3s to pick up. Every year whatever Nintendo's idea is risks getting too much older. Every year the specs they are building into the machine and developing their games for is less viable. Etc. Not to mention that a delay to fall would see Wii U dead from Holiday 2015 to Holiday 2017; and what do they have planned for 3DS that they won't show off at E3 for whatever reason?

I mean this rumor sounds ridiculous, it goes against Nintendo's mulish self-directed way of business in favor of a chicken with its head cut off approach, but Nintendo has yet to do anything to instill confidence in its NX direction and the company is clearly in transition so, really, it isn't impossible to give some credence to an otherwise ridiculous rumor like this. I hope all this is resolved in September or so with a reveal event that shows off a console that we can be modestly optimistic about and feel that Nintendo software has a new, interesting home to thrive on, and that it meets the March release date, but Nintendo is not a company atm that I can feel comfortable believing will deliver something like that.

So I don't believe that Nintendo is suddenly scrambling to add VR and changing up these launch year titles it already can't get ready for this holiday to incorporate Nintendo's suddenly invented approach to VR. But I can't totally dismiss this rumor comfortably either. It is not a nice time to be a Nintendo fan that follows this sort of talk as it comes out.
 
Folks, the answer is obvious and I am surprised no one here has figured it out.

The NX includes a time machine.

Early adopters are using it to come back to today and tell us what the NX is.

Unfortunately My Nintendo went sentient and started killing off users in an attempt to generate more platinum coins so the messages we are getting are garbled.

But yesterday (you know, time travel and all) we should see a poster tell us in more detail what games the NX will launch with.
 
Digitimes is usually a terrible source and the hybrid thing was already debunked by Nintendo themselves ages ago. Don't believe a word of it.
 
Sure, the production delay is obvious. No need for a source there.

Hybrid? Naw, not buying it. Expensive, low power, low battery. Shitty all around. Seperate Handheld and Console. Like multiple sources already stated.

VR? Dunno, but definitely not with a hybrid device. lol.
 
The12thGripper said:
i would buy a nintendo vr headset

but i also don't want to

please be fake
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They can't be that stupid. Nobody bought their last console, nobody will want to pay $800 just to play Nintendo VR games either. This rumour makes it sound like NX is in development hell. With the reduction we would be looking at a October launch. And VR should mostly be a software thing, do they need to add USB ports? Do they change the SOC to something more powerful? If they can do it, will Sony do the same? Will we get three new consoles late 2017?
 
I wonder if all this 'targeting VR' speak will end up biting all three console manufacturers in the ass at some point. Because honestly, VR isn't going to seriously take off for several more years at least. And that doesn't mean 2017.
 
Never believed that it'd come out in March.

9 months before launch and we're still unsure if devs got development kits or not.

And, yeah, if thay push the launch just to add VR, oh boy what a gloriously shitty idea.
I wonder what VR is gonna look like with NES resolution.
 
AgeEighty said:
It saddens me that this thread is going to get pages upon pages of concerned posts despite this rumor being complete bunk.
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Yes. This is a one-liner with everything and anything in it. No way this is friom any kind of reliable source.

This is a 100% "CLICK ME" shit.
 
I wish Nintendo would just come out with some real news already, if only to shut up all the damn rumors and speculation.
 
liquidtmd said:
NX was first touted and speculated in March 2015. It's now June 2016, no-one still knows anything and Nintendo isn't saying anything despite the Wii U being pretty much dead at retail for the last six months (I'm being generous), with their E3 line up consisting of Zelda, Zelda, Zelda and Reggie running round dressed as Basil Fawlty whispering to the guests 'Don't mention the NX War, I did once but I think I got away with it'

Legit question: Has there ever been such a prolonged period of open speculation before without clarification in gaming?
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Half Life 2: Episode Three was announced 10 years ago, had a couple of concept art images shown, and has never officially been cancelled. Gotta think that's the top right now, but NX info is really sparse.
 
This rumour is such a mixture of theories bundled together that I can't really believe it. Too unfocused for Nintendo.

AgeEighty said:
It saddens me that this thread is going to get pages upon pages of concerned posts despite this rumor being complete bunk.
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Would you say that you're concerned? :D
 
Azure J said:
NX is looking like it's simultaneously everything and nothing. I don't know what to think anymore.
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Nintendo need to replace the 3DS with a handheld. And want something that plays Android games.

So a Samsung VR style attachment for it makes a lot of sense. However that would never work with a 540 or 720 screen so Nintendo is going to have to significantly increase the consoles screen resolution and power.
 
I don't think this is true, but I could see Nintendo delaying the NX to make it beefier and compete better with the revisions of the other consoles if it'll help avoid a Wii U 2.0 situation.
 
There is so much negative buzz around Nintendo. Is it only here on GAF or all over the internetz?

And if true: sounds like something Miyamoto and his gang could have thought up really. "What do the kids like these days? Let's add it all, but cheaply and poorly!"
 
If production starts in January and this thing launches in March it's going to be impossible to find these things in stores. The quality control will probably also be bad.

But I honestly don't believe the rumor. I doubt Nintendo wants in on the VR pie, it's too risky and VR requires significant GPU power that would probably put the NX at an uncomfortable price point.
 
Benzychenz said:
I don't think this is true, but I could see Nintendo delaying the NX to make it beefier and compete better with the revisions of the other consoles if it'll help avoid a Wii U 2.0 situation.
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This. No point launching a .2 Tflp handheld and a 1.2 Tflp console when your competitors hardware is 4tflps and 6tflps respectively
 
rokkerkory said:
NX is in trouble with PS4k coming in the same time frame and just right after is Scorpio, both which are much much more powerful and have more 3rd party support.

I just truly hope that system is at least slightly more powerful than PS4, something unique ala Wii Mote and of course plethora of nintendo 1st party games.
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Well if it's true about Nintendo wanting VR intergration and that's a big "IF", I'd think they'd have to probably beef up their system substantially.

IMHO, if the NX isn't at least on par with PS4 in terms of graphical/processing power, it'll be d.o.a.

As a matter of fact, I have no problem with Nintendo going back to the drawing board of sorts and retooling the system to be competitive with the Neo and Scorpio.

Sony and MS showing their cards with Neo and Scorpio has lent Nintendo an edge to take advantage of bringing out the NX as a system that can hang or bypass those upgraded models.

But alas, this is Nintendo where they probably *won't* do that and continue doing what they do and march to their own beat. It's just frustrating as a Nintendo fan that they actually have somewhat of a strategic advantage right now on making NX a truly killer home console and will most likely end up releasing another underpowered(below Xbox One specs) system that nobody besides Nintendo will support. I hope I'm wrong.
 
I am all in for dedicated VR console. the way i see Sony VR is like their push to the Move. the technology is there but not many games will adopt it. if the console is VR ready from the box and VR required on the devs if they want to make games for the system, then it could be something big.
 
Looking forward to seeing Nintendo's version of VR.
 
cyberheater said:
Looking forward to seeing Nintendo's version of VR.
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I'm thinking it is just going to be like GearVR, the controller/screen thing just snaps into a cheap bit of plastic that you put on your head for some basic VR. Doubt it'll be anywhere near as good as PSVR, Rift or Vive but closer to Cardboard / GearVR quality.
 
Nirolak said:
Well, if it's a hybrid, then it's effectively a handheld with TV out.



In what sense? You can do phone VR.
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Considering Nintendo sold 60 million 3ds handhelds and 10 million WiiUs it's not exactly a shock that Nintendo will make a new handheld.

As for VR. They already have the eye tracking tech from the 3ds developed so it would be very easy for them to transition to a Gear VR style system (which would be sold selerately.

Hopefully Nintendo is just using Microsoft and Sony releasing the Details of their Next Gen Systems to redesign their next ten system so it isn't DOA like the WiiU
 
Nirolak said:
Well, if it's a hybrid, then it's effectively a handheld with TV out.
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Certainly that's the suggestion of the article, that the portable is the NX and the "console" is simply connecting the portable to a TV. I guess that would still leave open the possibility of the portable connecting to a supplementary/additive computing dock/hub (see: their patent) rather than directly to the TV.
 
Tagg9 said:
The VR stuff completely kills the legitimacy of this news.
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i think so too. the drain on a handheld would be pretty severe. that said, i think it's how vr really gets going in the gaming market - it would remove a lot of barriers, especially accessibility and affordability, if it's built into a single device.
 
I don't know what to think anymore. Nintendo need their version of the PS1 at this point. Simple, powerful enough and cheap. No gimmicks, just games.

The VR talk in this article has to be BS though, right? Sony have spent 100's? of millions of dollars and 3-4 years on it and it is clearly still early both in HW and software.

I doubt Nintendo can knock something up in a year or less.
 
Didn't someone in the NX speculation thread make a mock-up of this? In that case Gaf->digitimes->gaf. It would be really rather straightforward to turn the handheld into a VR device a la Gear VR. The delay could be due to a new form factor where the sticks don't press against your face (if it even has sticks), and maybe switch out the IMU to a better one. That doesn't seem impossible. The handheld might not be strong enough, but if that patent is true, the added compute device of the main console would be easily.

The only thing that would make it impossible to me is that it would mean the handheld has a 1080p display. That would seem like a pretty big battery drain.
 
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