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Mass shooting at Orlando gay nightclub [50 dead, 53 injured]
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smokeandmirrors
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dude is complicit too. fuck him and his business.
Reminiscent
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Called this earlier in the thread!
This is surreal.
Wild speculation: Dude was deeply closeted and filled with a very specific kind of self hate. Ultimately externalized it in the worst way possible.
Oh wow, that's fucking nuts.
Solid SOAP
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This is fucked.
I dunno... like... wow. All the material coming up about his social life. It's possible he was a closeted gay who opened fire on the people he was scared to openly identify as.
It will be interesting to see how the people who have been supporting him (Isil) now react to supporting a gay muslim.
Astral Dog
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No...
Gay guys have higher steroid use than straight ones, it's the same reason women have more eating disorders than men. (The male gaze is harsh and withering.)
And his ex-wife said he had a steroid problem...
What.
Bigoted religious text that he didn't cherry pick the bad stuff out of had an effect on him. Made him feel like he couldn't be himself, made himself see himself as evil because of what he read/was taught, sought out to do the righteous thing according to the text and do jihad against the thing he couldn't accept within himself.
Homophobia/self-hatred brought out by Islamic text and ease of access to weapons were the main components of why he did what he did. If you think that he was self hating gay and Islam had zero percent to do with it and just went on a rampage for no reason other than self hatred. To say, he joined ISIL as a goof - or a red herring. Get real dude.
hahaha what
ouch. Do women not check out and judge negatively other women more than men do? Might look for research into this later.
You sound dumb.
Theanine3D
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I had a feeling from the beginning that the guy was probably closeted and internally conflicted about it. This would lend credence to that.
Astral Dog
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you do sound stereotypical
How? It's well known that there are a lot of gay guys that are bodybuilders, there are entire dating services set up exclusively for gay bodybuilding.
If i'm wrong I'll apologize but I thought it was pretty well known that there a lot of gay guys into bodybuilding?
Poltergust
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I can't say I'm surprised. People who take their hate to that kind of level are usually the ones afraid of being the very thing they hate, and that hate is further exacerbated by witnessing other people overcome that fear.
That's related to intra-group status. It has to do with standard of attractiveness/snap judgments and how the genders differ. If you set up an app like Grindr for lesbians, for example, they just straight up won't use it- they're not interested in rows and rows of headshots,.
Youtubing that name plus Puls gets this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcwlzxEzi2s
Not sure if thats him.
Not even remotely close to the same bone structure in the face.
JHoNNy1OoO
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Damn Cooper can barely hold it together right now talking about the victims. 
j_k_redtail
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Theanine3D
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Yeah. It would easily explain why he got angry enough at seeing two men kissing to kill people. He might've been thinking, "They get to do that, and I don't. It's not fair." Same sort of attitude Elliot Rodger had when he slaughtered women at UCSB - he was angry that he wasn't getting any. Both sexually-repressed psychopaths.
You do know cherry picking is exactly what Isil do, right? Sometimes I can't tell the difference between Isil's version of islam and islamaphobics.
My own feelings are edging toward this being a homophobic attack - first and foremost. And why was he a homophobic? Probably like you said he kept reading stuff about how wrong being gay is. Closeted gay attacks his own community. Which is, I'll admit, heartbreakingly sad.
Not that this differs from ISil who also attack muslims, or just about anybody who crosses their path.
thenight11
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Damn Cooper can barely hold it together right now talking about the victims.
yeah he is barely holding it together at times
Apparently been in the gay dating space since 2007 per those interviewed by MSNBC.
j_k_redtail
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I don't think we can discount the possibility that he may have been using these apps to find targets ... but ... that's very curious.
Agreed. I mean, he didn't just stumble upon that particular nightclub
Scouting since 2007 would be quite long. Even since 2013 which I was hearing from another source would be very long.
3 different dating apps and dozens of visits to Pulse and getting very drunk there seems like going overboard in research. He could have just gotten on Yelp.
This seems like a weird claim since he has been on a bunch of gay dating apps, spent years going to a gay nightclub, and his wife thinks he might have been gay.
I feel like that is actually a lot of indications that he might be gay.
gutter_trash
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so speculation wise:
this guy was in the closet but has a super ultra-conservative Father who is a religious nutter and lashed out on 100 people instead of facing his father
Possibly, word coming in that someone claimed he'd been coming to the club in the attack for three years, plus word he'd been on gay dating websites.
If true, it's possible the motive might have been entirely based on his own conflicted feelings towards his sexuality.
Perhaps if he did call up 911 to pledge allegiance to Isis he simply did so to throw investigators off his real motive.
Didn't hear any of that. All I saw was that line of thought where he was a body-builder. Guess I'm wrong.
Visiting a gay club over a dozen times over the span of 3 years, being active on 3 gay dating apps and having 1on1 sessions with transsexual camgirls doesn't indicate that he could have been gay?
That's a whole lot of research if he did it just to scout out locations, victims etc.
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