GitarooMan
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The idea of it seems great but they showed so little it's hard to get actually excited. It's like when they show a teaser for Metroid by Team Ninja. Sounds great but who knows.
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Giant Bomb @ E3 2016 | WEED3
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But ammo scarcity has nothing to do with using an improvised silencer.....
still, that silencer was dumb.
Death Metalist
Member
The only thread that matters is this one.
But Insomniac man, they must know a thing or two about open world games by now. I don't see how they could fuck it up but I guess the possibility is always there. I guess what I dislike the most is how far this is going to take to come out.
I mean the game is called
HASHTAGSPIDERMANPS4
Doesn't read like it. It happens every single year for every conference. OMG I can't believe you didn't love this as much as I did, it was awesome!
Well... People have different opinions. You're the one linking to Ryckert's twitter as if it means anything.
Scalebound was easily the worst. Days Gone wasn't super interesting but it didn't necessarily look bad either, there just needs to be more to it. FFXV was a poorly performed showing of a game that has been shown well multiple times. Scalebound was the most dull demo of a character action game that I have ever seen. The majority of the fight was spent firing fucking arrows and fireballs at slowly moving targets. They're inviting these comparisons to DMC with their style choices but nothing they showed was anywhere close to that quality bar. If all this co-op stuff is slow, gigantic bosses, they need to drop the focus on that and present the fast paced action because right now Nier 2 is looking head and shoulders above Scalebound as an action game.
At the start they were more enthusiastic about it and then it kinda died out.
But yeah, they weren't the biggest fans of the conference for sure.
MassiveNights
Banned
Yeah and people are allowed to think it was cool too and disagree with the guys without being made out to be weird Sony fanboys.
MS conference was about ideas, that contradict (or counter) the previous idea.
Why buy a Xbox One when you can get a Xbox One S?
Why buy a Xbox One S when you buy a Scorpio?
Why buy any of this and not just get on PC? Its essentially the quanandrum that Dan was in. "But Killer Instict didnt work with all monitors properly".
Sony conference was about games, understandable if some people dont like them, but we are in the middle of a gen, this should be a games centric E3. Every year cant be new hardware reveals, makes it feel like you are always waiting for something rather than playing now in the moment.
Why buy a Xbox One when you can get a Xbox One S?
Why buy a Xbox One S when you buy a Scorpio?
Why buy any of this and not just get on PC? Its essentially the quanandrum that Dan was in. "But Killer Instict didnt work with all monitors properly".
Sony conference was about games, understandable if some people dont like them, but we are in the middle of a gen, this should be a games centric E3. Every year cant be new hardware reveals, makes it feel like you are always waiting for something rather than playing now in the moment.
Coming off the last few Amazing Spider-man games what little they showed off has me excited at least (save for the costume, but w/e).
RepairmanJack
Member
So I was watching this with my cousin who is a big gun nut and apparently this is a real thing? I have no clue but he said there is something he can buy where literally he can attach any oil filter to his gun? He could have been completely bullshitting me and I would have had no idea, but apparently that could be a thing?
I just accepted it because it seemed like something just scary enough to be real and to come out of all the people that think there will be a zombie apocalypse.
Man, the more I think about Kojima's thing the more bummed I am that it's probably a 2019 game at best.
Yeah, there's been a few cool games demo'd so far, but there's always that sense of knowing what each dev/pub is going to give you (for the most part). Kojima's thing could be anything, and even when all the trailers are released and you're playing the game, there'll still be that element of 'wtf am I playing/watching?'.
I think genuine surprise/weirdness is becoming my favourite trait in video games - even if the game itself doesn't end up great.
Yeah, there's been a few cool games demo'd so far, but there's always that sense of knowing what each dev/pub is going to give you (for the most part). Kojima's thing could be anything, and even when all the trailers are released and you're playing the game, there'll still be that element of 'wtf am I playing/watching?'.
I think genuine surprise/weirdness is becoming my favourite trait in video games - even if the game itself doesn't end up great.
NumberThree
Member
Caught up with the Sony conference. Horizon was definitely the high point for me and Detroit seems interesting (androids are cool). Cautiously optimistic about Spider-Man.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Spider-Man looked great just because it appears to have a fucking budget for once. Hopefully it does for Spidey what Arkham Asylum did for Batman.
Heckler456
Banned
It was 60 minutes of almost nothing but trailer upon trailer. How is that being "badly paced"? It's almost impossible for this to be badly paced in a world where we have a 2 hour Ubisoft conference where they're wasting time on a full match of Soar.
Because of money. People have limited funds and priorities.
I can't believe that some people still don't get this.
PuppetMaster
Member
Get some new friends before it is too late Dan!
Jeff's darkness is rubbing off on you! Also stay away from that Navarro clown. Stupidity that far gone is contagious.
Except there are quite a few people in this thread and just online in general that berate the guys for not liking the conference as much as everyone else does. There's a difference between disagreeing with them (which is totally fine) and getting upset and calling them jaded or whatever because they didn't like it as much as everyone else. It's pretty obvious what kind of person the latter applies to.
They seemed OK with RE7. Expected reaction for Detroit (and Drew was happy with the latter too). I guess we'll see at the end!
If people have limited funds and priorities to buy a whole new version of a console every 3 years, they have limited funds to buy a new PC instead.
RepairmanJack
Member
Non-stop =/= well paced
There is a good balance somewhere in between those two conferences.
MassiveNights
Banned
For every person like that, there's always someone way too defensive of the guys.
They put their opinion out there to be judged, it's kind of their job and they don't need protected or excuses made for what that opinion is.
Their response to the Sony thing was *totally fine* but it was negative and I haven't seen anyone saying that accuse them of anything untoward.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Yo, I know we are doing the whole "Jaded! -nu-uh!" song and dance routine right now but can we talk about Trials of the Blood Dragon for a second?
The second misson-pack (?) has you riding around
but that's almost too much
The second misson-pack (?) has you riding around
in Miami, wearing a Tiger mask, shooting up drug-trafficers while Roller Mobster plays and you get the mission from a payphone talking about something completely unrelated. Like, I get it somebody really like Hotline Miami
But they won't buy a console 3 years?
And some people don't want to mess with PCs.
Like, people have different priorities and knowledge and even time.
I know NeoGAF is a bubble but this isn't hard to understand. It's like some people only know one type of people or never talked about games with anybody else.
To be fair I haven't followed the thread during this and even I did catch a few JADED type posts, so I assume there were plenty of those kind of drive by posts. But at the end of the day who gives a shit about that.
I need that game in my life right now.
I won't disagree with you that there are some people who are way too defensive because it's definitely true but all you have to do is look through this thread around the time the conference was ending to see some people calling them jaded or whatever because they didn't like it as much as everyone else.
I feel like this happens whenever a GB thread is on the front page because of some event though. Far too often when someone doesn't like an opinion someone from GB has they turn to saying how old and jaded they are, how they don't find joy in games, etc., When people say things like that I know immediately that they don't actually watch/listen to anything GB related outside of the big stuff because if they did they would easily see the crew being enthusiastic and happy about a lot of different things.
I mean, it literally is out right now.
Salty Catfish
Member
'Til the conference itself starts, yeah. GB in about three hours.
Heckler456
Banned
I would love to hear any concrete examples of what constitutes bad pacing in this conference, and good pacing in others.
Bad pacing is usually exemplified with something dragging on too long. In a movie, when every scene drives the plot forward, for example, that's considered good in terms of pacing. Given the fact that the point of a conference is to show off your games, I really don't see how you can provide any salient argument that this one was "badly paced", as opposed to you simply being disinterested.
You might say that they had their "peaks and valleys" wrong, but even then I would have to point you to the fact that their longer gameplay demos were perfectly well spaced out with small batches of shorter trailers along with House and Layden doing their thing.
I know but I am not at home!!
Also about the jaded thing. Watching a conference with others is always different, you are not that easily hyped when you are with others.
MassiveNights
Banned
Yeah, 3 hours until GB start.
Yup, sold me on the game instantly
I don't know how directly related to pacing either of these are but the transition from VR into Call of Duty confused me for a good while and showing an alright demo for a game you announced earlier in the conference was a bad closer. Those are the two big things that stick out to me looking back on the show
I would argue that the VR section was badly paced in that they should've explained stuff a bit more. But the other parts were well paced in my book. I can see how others thought it moved a bit too fast, but at the end of the day this isn't something I care all that much about
shiftplusone
Member
I thought Sonys was fucking weird. I was into re7, last guardian date, Spider-Man looks cool, horizon looks good, they actually made God of War look exciting.
Lack of Indies and gravity rush and the like sucked, I don't care about crash and that was a lame announcement, and then I think days gone sucked the excitement out of everything else they showed. Looked as by the numbers as you could possibly make something.
What an uninteresting game, and double bad to end the show with it.
I have a PC with a high end GPU
I have a ps4
I have a 4k TV
I'm getting an Xbox S because all of the games that would see the benefit from the Scorpio I'm apparently going to get on my PC anyway, so there's no point there
An S gets me a cheap UHD player, and access to the few xb1 games that were before the PC push, and Backwards Compatibility with 360. (Which I admittedly will probably never use because who cares)
That seems alright
Lack of Indies and gravity rush and the like sucked, I don't care about crash and that was a lame announcement, and then I think days gone sucked the excitement out of everything else they showed. Looked as by the numbers as you could possibly make something.
What an uninteresting game, and double bad to end the show with it.
I have a PC with a high end GPU
I have a ps4
I have a 4k TV
I'm getting an Xbox S because all of the games that would see the benefit from the Scorpio I'm apparently going to get on my PC anyway, so there's no point there
An S gets me a cheap UHD player, and access to the few xb1 games that were before the PC push, and Backwards Compatibility with 360. (Which I admittedly will probably never use because who cares)
That seems alright
RepairmanJack
Member
I'm the farthest from disinterested. It probably had the most games I'm interested in. Badly paced is having the first half being more well rounded and full than the second half. Badly paced is showing a trailer for a game, saying nothing about it and moving on to other games, then coming back and ending with some gameplay of that first game. Bad pacing is coming out and talking about PSVR and showing games for it and then immediately going into a first person player game making it hard to tell if it's still a VR game or if it's moved on.
There is a whole lot more to pacing than just taking too long on something. Batman v Superman had some horrible fucking pacing and I wouldn't really say it had an issue with spending too much time on things.
MassiveNights
Banned
GameSpot have updated their stage schedule. All times Pacific starting today after Nintendo.
Their second stage runs throughout too hosted by Kinda Funny and others and YouTubers.
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/schedule/
Their second stage runs throughout too hosted by Kinda Funny and others and YouTubers.
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/schedule/
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
The conference could have easily been 1:45 with the typical banter, gloating, and chartz. I loved that Sony cut the fat. It also seemed like the orchestra really resonated with people who were in the audience. I love that these conferences have evolved into a pure distillation of games. If that means some people think it has weird or awkward pacing, so be it.
SliceSabre
Banned
Based on their round up of the Sony conference I think I see GB's biggest issue with the Sony conference: They actually like having those execs come out there with graphs and charts and sitting out there talking about a game for 20 minutes. They want to be sold on something. It wouldn't
surprise me if they liked the Microsoft conference more even though they showed significantly fewer games than Sony because Microsoft spent a lot of time trying to sell you on things.
The disconnect is that their audience and gamers in general hate those execs coming out there and talking and just want to see the trailers and gameplay.
surprise me if they liked the Microsoft conference more even though they showed significantly fewer games than Sony because Microsoft spent a lot of time trying to sell you on things.
The disconnect is that their audience and gamers in general hate those execs coming out there and talking and just want to see the trailers and gameplay.
I used to love this kind of coverage of E3 before, but to me now it all just feels so rushed and PR heavy with prepared scripts. I'll give it a go because of Danny!
You might want to create a new thread with this schedule.