Gator drags child into water near Disney's Grand Floridian
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i have no idea how to go about asking this, but when you say "recovered" do you mean the body was found inside a gator?
SchrodingerC
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Oh geez, I haven't been to Blue Springs in years.
Since you were able to go into the water the park officials determined it was safe.
EDIT: at least the parents can have some closure now.
ElectricBlanketFire
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A nightmare.
http://www.cbs8.com/story/32223990/...-by-alligator-at-disney-resort-is-likely-dead
Live stream - another press conference starting in 5-6 minutes, probably to confirm that the body was found.
Live stream - another press conference starting in 5-6 minutes, probably to confirm that the body was found.
Of course, but that doesn't seem to be the case here though.
echoshifting
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I apologize if that came across overly morbid. I'm not trying to be insensitive. I would think everyone would want them to be able to definitively identify and kill the maneating alligator.
Agent Cooper
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No, no, no. You make sense!
I chuckled at first because my brain went the dark humor route... and now I feel like a terrible human being.
But you're fine!
I feel for the parents... this is like, worst nightmare territory.
can either of you point to where the child was being ignored and unattended?
peteykirch
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I know when I'm at Disney there are usually signs along the bodies of water saying not to go into the lagoon/lakes.
I've heard conflicting stories that the kid was like 10-15 feet out into the water and got snatched.
I've heard conflicting stories that the kid was like 10-15 feet out into the water and got snatched.
cpp_is_king
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How do you protect your kids from a fucking gator? Don't let them go near the beach? Give me a break. Apparently the dad was right there, and tried to fight off the gator and got injuries from it, but he couldn't save the kid.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Deputies-Gator-drags-toddler-into-water-near-8164936.php
says he was like 1 foot into the water, I'm pretty sure everyone else in the world except the internet police would agree that's a fairly safe distance.
There are a lot of (likely childless) parenting experts on GAF. They were all over the gorilla thread too.
Yeah, I've heard nothing about the kid being unattended.
I don't think the kid (or any guests) should have been in the water, even just a little, esp. at night. But that's a separate issue. And with the parents right there I can see how they could have THOUGHT there was no danger. Just an unfortunate turn of events.
Also, just announced that the body was found completely intact.
"No reason to believe that the body recovered was not that of (this child)"
I didn't even think of that possibility, that it could have been a different kid found. Eesh.
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I find that in itself crazy.
echoshifting
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There are "no swimming" signs warning of a steep drop-off but no gator signs.
Now I'm scared. I once swam at Bahia Honda State Park. There were no warnings, I hope I wasn't doing something stupid?
edit- also, dat username...
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wanderingprostheyltite
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Agreed. Whether people want to admit or not, sometimes the chaotic nature of, well, nature, is just going to intersect with our lives like this sometimes as rare as it may be, especially when you build your amusement park and resorts in the middle of a fucking gator infested lagoon :/
echoshifting
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Found in the immediate area where he was taken. Fuck
Tal Shiar Agent
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For gators it isn't. They would be attracted by the splashing and they take prey off land and drag it back into the water.
Are you an adult and was it daytime? Gators are the most docile of the large crocodilians and generally avoid humans. Most attacks occur because of mistaken identity and usually with children because of their small stature and after dusk. Gators typically hunt at night.
nortonff
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"Wildlife officials had earlier caught and killed five alligators from the lagoon to examine them for traces of the boy but found no evidence they were involved"
Why? They are guilty for being alligators?
Why? They are guilty for being alligators?
Yeah, daytime. I guess that's mildly reassuring to hear, but if I had thought for a second that alligators hung out anywhere near the place I was swimming at, I definitely wouldn't have done it.
It's not even that the lagoon was originally infested (it was man-made and gator free, presumably, when opened). The whole state of Florida is infested with gators.
This could have happened near any body of water in the state, or even on land in the vicinity of water.
Disney already removes/kills alligators found on property, and have an open license to do so. In this case though they were more actively searching for them, as part of the search for the child.
I was more talking about in the case of the pool that I am at where the day after a child was killed by a gator people are ignoring their kids climbing on a high wall next to a lake with gators in it. Not the parents that let their two year old wade 10 foot away from the the shore in a lake that had at least four alligators and a sign saying no swimming.
Paracelsus
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Once they tasted human meat they might start looking at you as food, and thus they have to die.
echoshifting
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The sheriff handled that press conference really well. Appreciated the way he deflected attempts to put blame on the family.
None of this is true. I completely disagree with the killing of the gators.
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Recovery of the body + killing a man-eating animal.
Tal Shiar Agent
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They were searching the stomachs for the child's remains.
boredofcanada
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They have to be euthanized in order to search them for the body
It's not like you can sit there and ask them questions. It's common practice to kill animals that have eaten humans as leaving them be might lead to repeated behavior. It's unfortunate that these unaffiliated gators had to die in the process, but there wasn't really a lot that could've been done to prevent it as the search for the culprit went on.
Tom Nook
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Killing all the Gators in the resort?.....
It's like in the movie Aliens: "It's the only way to be sure."
LifEndz
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No gator warning signs? lawsuit! $$$
Phoenix Fang
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Pretty much this. I lived in Florida almost all my life and you can pretty much find gators in any body of water. On 159th St 6th Ave in North Miami near a school called Oak Grove Elementary, there is a park there with a lake and gators had to be pulled out of there before. I remember one almost grabbing my leg as I walked near the water.
wanderingprostheyltite
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So what you're saying is Florida prob wasn't the best place for it
This is clearly a freak accident and as you say Disney has done due diligence in the past trying to keep them out, it just isn't feasible to get em all. Will be interesting to see what they do beyond what they've already been doing due to this.
The answer is in the quote they were looking for traces of the boy's body.
The Sheriff has some experience with these yahoos.
The body was found (estimated) 15 yards out from the shoreline in about 6 feet of water, intact, Sheriff believes the alligator drowned him but leaves confirmation to the medical examiners. They may have actually caught the alligator responsible, they have to compare things like bite marks to the five they pulled out and euthanized.
IMO that investigation is going to take a while so don't hold your breath.
The Sheriff said the family was sitting on the shore next to one of the Grand Floridian pools, the boy wandered out and played in the water. (e: clarifying, they were all on the shore, the Grand Floridian pool was the nearest landmark)
The FWC leader said Disney has an ongoing open program where they either call FWC trappers or some of their own certified staff remove nuisance gators, there have been no nuisance gator reports to them from the public because Disney takes care of those gators directly.
Signs in the area said "no swimming".
The body was found (estimated) 15 yards out from the shoreline in about 6 feet of water, intact, Sheriff believes the alligator drowned him but leaves confirmation to the medical examiners. They may have actually caught the alligator responsible, they have to compare things like bite marks to the five they pulled out and euthanized.
IMO that investigation is going to take a while so don't hold your breath.
The Sheriff said the family was sitting on the shore next to one of the Grand Floridian pools, the boy wandered out and played in the water. (e: clarifying, they were all on the shore, the Grand Floridian pool was the nearest landmark)
The FWC leader said Disney has an ongoing open program where they either call FWC trappers or some of their own certified staff remove nuisance gators, there have been no nuisance gator reports to them from the public because Disney takes care of those gators directly.
Signs in the area said "no swimming".
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