has nothing to do with HD, the current design makes him look evil/menacing. Almost like a werebandicoot
Crash Bandicoot Remastered
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has nothing to do with HD, the current design makes him look evil/menacing. Almost like a werebandicoot
It was mentioned during the conference that the Crash skylander would be "Ps4 first." However, sony owns the publishing rights to the first 3 games, so anything having to do with the first 3 games (including a remaster that'll use the game's code) will have to be approved by Sony.
Crash 1-3 remasters are not going to show up on a non-Sony platform.
But, if Crash 1-3 sold well, and Activision wanted to make a new game on their own without Sony funding it, that could easily be multplatform.
Also a great way to cement interest
Yup, exactly the reason why I don't like the Skylanders design. It looks like Crash's evil brother pretending to be him or something. LOL.
serenewarfare
Banned
VV is a good team who has made good Crash games in the past. They are Activision yeah, but I have faith in them.
Yeah, they need to tweak the knob a little bit. He always looked kinda nuts, but more in a goofy way than in an aggro way. The new design isn't irredeemable, it just needs a little push and pull on some key features to get the right expressions out.
It just needs to be a little more Looney Tunes.
PeakPointMatrix
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This design is actually really growing on me. It might be the pose, but where the head/chest area connects needs some work. It also gives the feel of a weird wooden carving. Even still I'm really loving the wackyness of this version. If they scaled back on the effect with the fur, they could have a real winner of a design for the classics that revitalize the goofball essence that was Crash in the heyday
These are being rebuilt from the ground up with 100% new code.
GIANKRATOS
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So i'm not really sure i understood, who is making the remakes?
Vicarious Visions who worked on Crash before.
Stereogatari
Banned
Indeed. It suggests they are "going back to the roots" which is exactly what the fanbase has wanted since thag first train wreck of Wrath of Cortex.
Since Sony will be overlooking it (I hope) there should be no room for error.
Then when it comes out, sells insanely well, they can make a true Crash Bandicoot 4.
Just googled Vicarious to see which Crash gamds they worked on. They were involved with the first 2 GBA games which were much closer to the Naughty Dog games than any other post-ND Crash. Mind you, I'm sure the development team won't be exactly the same, but it's a promising sign.
We honestly don't know exactly what's happening due to the phrasing (unless it was specifically mentioned in an interview afterwards). Built from the ground up without using any code would not be a remaster, it'd be a remake. But the word remaster was used. A "remaster from the ground up" to me sounds like Halo anniversary which despite adding extra features/conten, still ran the original games' code underneath all the audiovisual polishing they did to the game.
Yautja_Warrior
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I wonder if the graphics will use the same style as the Skylanders demo. I actually like the new look to Crash, so it would be great to have him look like that in this new Crash collection.
The Crash games are PS1 games afterall, so its not going to be a simple port or that would look pretty lame in 2016 and they did say built from the ground up for PS4, so I hope they go with that stylized, chuncky cartoon look.
The Crash games are PS1 games afterall, so its not going to be a simple port or that would look pretty lame in 2016 and they did say built from the ground up for PS4, so I hope they go with that stylized, chuncky cartoon look.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Okay can any insider shed light on what these remasters/remakes are.
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Crash 2 is one of my favourite platformers, can't wait to see what the remaster looks like. Shame there's no CTR included.
Would this be a similar situation to the Goldeneye Remake then?
Would this be a similar situation to the Goldeneye Remake then?
No, because the Goldeneye remake for Wii/360/PS3 was nothing like the N64 original.
They can't just port the games like that. Not only is the architecture completely different now, but all 3 games are coded in Andy Gavin's GOOL, which only he truly know how to work with. Plus a lot of other technical details that are just too hard to program on today's technology. By the way,
that Uncharted 4 bit with Crash WAS NOT GOOL.
If they're going to recreate the games (which seems like the likelihood), I doubt they'd stop at "exactly the same graphics and gameplay but in HD". And before you suggest emulators, remember that this is, according to Sony, being done from the ground up.
All signs point to this being an all-new thing.
I'd say it's closer to Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask 3DS. The same games, but with updated models and assets.
Tim Gettys (Kinda Funny Games) reaction is gold: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0LMntgvLLzE
Coolbgdog12
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I hate how SLOW he moves in Skylanders. That and his huge jaw/head looks odd.
Like someone else said, that doesn't look like crash. He looks too different.
Like someone else said, that doesn't look like crash. He looks too different.
Stereogatari
Banned
The comparison I like to make is Abe's New N Tasty.
I mean. It's not a HD version of the PS1 game. It's a new game that is 1:1 like the PS1 games.
Like Tomb Raider Anniversary.
Oh dear. They made all the very worst Crash games.
Travellers Tales made the best non-Naughty Dog Crash game with Wrath of Cortex. Shame they're stuck doing endless Lego games these days.
+100000 for originality.
This is one of the most bizarre things I've ever read in a Crash thread.
I've been fairly critical of the new Crash model but it doesn't look bad at all here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxuYBvtfwQk
And I guess Aku Aku is Grim from Billy and Mandy now (in the video above). Maybe he voiced him on COTT and MOM, don't know, didn't pay attention to those games. He sounds fine but I will miss his VA from the originals, always loved that guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxuYBvtfwQk
And I guess Aku Aku is Grim from Billy and Mandy now (in the video above). Maybe he voiced him on COTT and MOM, don't know, didn't pay attention to those games. He sounds fine but I will miss his VA from the originals, always loved that guy.
...They didn't, though.
The lengths some will go to justify their disdain for this.
lmao
Yes Greg Eagles voices Aku Aku in COTT and MOM.I've been fairly critical of the new Crash model but it doesn't look bad at all here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxuYBvtfwQk
And I guess Aku Aku is Grim from Billy and Mandy now (in the video above). Maybe he voiced him on COTT and MOM, don't know, didn't pay attention to those games. He sounds fine but I will miss his VA from the originals, always loved that guy.
...They didn't, though.
I've been fairly critical of the new Crash model but it doesn't look bad at all here.
Agreed, those shots make it look pretty good. The head/face still seems a touch big to me, and that jutting-out thing doesn't look quite right; here's 2 minutes of the liquify tool in Photoshop:
OfTheOverflow
Member
Funnily enough the Crash model for Skylanders looks more similar to the original intended character art work for the games than they actually turned out.
funkystudent
Member
Exactly what I was thinking.
It looks like they looked at a bunch of concept art for those games and not the games themselves.
I don't hate it though but some tweaking would be welcome.
The Huge Adventure and N-Tranced being the worst Crash Bandicoot games is a perfectly justifiable opinion. I can't say I'm a big fan of those games myself. In my opinion they're ugly, clunky and have terrible level design.
But those games came out a long time ago and it's entirely possible that VV is capable of putting out a much better Crash game than that after all these years. I'm not putting my faith in them sight unseen, but I'm more than willing to see what they've got in store.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
I've never really payed attention to Skylanders, but watching the Crash footage, is it just me or does it actually not look.. that... bad....? Fun even? What's the GAF consensus on this one?
Ehhh you kinda got rid of the upward slope of his chest, so not he looks like a skinny log with arms. I think the issue is the line dividing his mouth and chest. I remove it here, and it's a subtle change, but I think it helps a lot:
original:
Smoothed mouth/chest
I have some quibbles and I kind of want to hate it, but it doesn't really look bad at all to be honest.
Ultimate Visions
Neo Member
What I'm assuming he meant by remastered from the ground up is kind-of in the middle of remake and remaster.
I'm guessing it means they are keeping the games exactly the same, but upgrading the graphics, voice acting, and possibly music.
That's what I'm assuming 'Remastered from the ground up' means at least.
So it'd be like if the Ratchet & Clank remake for PS4 was exactly like the original one in every way, but only with updated music, voice acting, and graphics.
I'm guessing it means they are keeping the games exactly the same, but upgrading the graphics, voice acting, and possibly music.
That's what I'm assuming 'Remastered from the ground up' means at least.
So it'd be like if the Ratchet & Clank remake for PS4 was exactly like the original one in every way, but only with updated music, voice acting, and graphics.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Has no one been able to press Sony for more details on this remaster? I expected a follow up at the very least.
I really hope they cast the original voice actors too. Mind of Mutant Crash is just... not Crash.
I really hope they cast the original voice actors too. Mind of Mutant Crash is just... not Crash.
Mind PM'ing me the url of the gif? I'm on my phone.
DevilSnake
Member
The amount of marketing terms is getting confusing now, I always thought remastering meant taking an existing build then updating textures, sound, resolution etc & porting it. If this is being built from the ground up then surely it's a remake?
There's been so many varying uses of these terms that i'm struggling to understand what type of quality to expect from this, are we talking resident evil 1 remake quality here? They really need to set some guidelines on this stuff instead of just taking a new word that sounds good for marketing, then blurring the definition of that word until a new one comes along.
There's been so many varying uses of these terms that i'm struggling to understand what type of quality to expect from this, are we talking resident evil 1 remake quality here? They really need to set some guidelines on this stuff instead of just taking a new word that sounds good for marketing, then blurring the definition of that word until a new one comes along.
KeyChainDude
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Can anyone confirm to me if Vicarious Visions are the guys behind Crash Twinsanity? That game was amazing, and imo, should be where to look at as a starting point to a Crash reboot. If they are behind the Crash remasters, I'm pretty sure the games will be as fun as the originals.
mysteriousmage09
Member
I really hope the remasters don't feature the Skylanders version of Crash because holy shit is it terrible. It looks bad, the movement looks like shit and just screams they are deliberately trying to fuck this whole thing up.
Traveller's Tales did Twinsanity. That studio does the Lego games now.
Skylanders is a bit different from a Crash game, with a different style. The design might be similar, but I think they'll end up looking different in motion, personally.
KeyChainDude
Member
Oh, that's sad. No wonder the Lego games are that fun. Let's wait and see what VV comes up with then.
It will be like Ratchet and Clank.
Coolbgdog12
Member
What's with Crash and Aku Aku's voice?
https://youtu.be/JlWIJ_w-zLY
This is not how Crash sounds.
I think a few tweaks will get him looking how he should look.
https://youtu.be/JlWIJ_w-zLY
This is not how Crash sounds.
I think a few tweaks will get him looking how he should look.
That is actually really jarring, it's the voice of the goofy Tribal Hipster Crash from CoT and MoM, but when Crash is looking closer to his old design that voice just doesn't match at all.
I've never really payed attention to Skylanders, but watching the Crash footage, is it just me or does it actually not look.. that... bad....? Fun even? What's the GAF consensus on this one?
Ehhh you kinda got rid of the upward slope of his chest, so not he looks like a skinny log with arms. I think the issue is the line dividing his mouth and chest. I remove it here, and it's a subtle change, but I think it helps a lot:
My nephew played it a ton, and honestly it has its moments, but ultimately it's clearly intended for children and a very simple game and for that reason ends up just a bit boring. I would liken it somewhat to the lego games in that it's entertaining, but for me it gets dull after a little bit.
it absolutely will not.
freefornow
Member
I've never really payed attention to Skylanders, but watching the Crash footage, is it just me or does it actually not look.. that... bad....? Fun even? What's the GAF consensus on this one?
THIS is the Crash I grew up with. I mean, just look at those animations. They're filled to the brim with personality and charm not seen in ages (hell, I'd say they're better than the original animations). I really don't see what's not to like, it captures that old school feeling that people have been begging for.
VV has shown that they're trying their damndest to capture that spark of the originals and I think they outdid themselves. I can only imagine how well they'll pull off with the remakes (even thinking about it makes me drool with delight).
BTW, thanks for the PM man! Needed it!