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[demosthenes]

Question for dual monitor owners.

If I have one screen be a 27" 1440p gsync screen and one screen be 24" 1080p (non gsync), as long as I game on the 1440p screen will I have any issue with this setup?

 

[Onemic]

Consensus afair is:
- Turn on Vsync in Nvidia panel
- Turn on Gsync
- Turn off Vsync in games

This way you will cap games at 144hz and have Gsync from 30-144hz (and frame doubling below 30).

With vsync on wont that increase input lag? or does gsync being on at the same time eliminate that?

 

[batman2million]

Question for dual monitor owners.

If I have one screen be a 27" 1440p gsync screen and one screen be 24" 1080p (non gsync), as long as I game on the 1440p screen will I have any issue with this setup?

No. It should work just fine. I usually turn off the other monitor as a just in case.

With vsync on wont that increase input lag? or does gsync being on at the same time eliminate that?

There's a detailed explanation for that somewhere here but from what I remember correctly, it'll mostly cap your frame rate to your monitors.

 

[soldierblue]

I just recently picked up a 1080 and a S2716DG. Totally phenomenal.

 

[Dahaka]

If you're spending that much on a monitor already, you'll really be kicking yourself for not going for G sync.

I picked up an Acer Predator XB271HU, and can confirm that its the best purchase i've ever made. Holy shit Witcher and Overwatch look/run unbelievably good. Sitting next to my old 23" 1080p Acer monitor its like night and day. The image quality is pristine.

I have the same monitor and can confirm that it is indeed amazing and currently the better choice over ASUS QC.

Consensus afair is:
- Turn on Vsync in Nvidia panel
- Turn on Gsync
- Turn off Vsync in games

This way you will cap games at 144hz and have Gsync from 30-144hz (and frame doubling below 30).

Is this true?

 

[lordfuzzybutt]

With vsync on wont that increase input lag? or does gsync being on at the same time eliminate that?

I have the same monitor and can confirm that it is indeed amazing and currently the better choice over ASUS QC.



Is this true?

Yep.

 

[riflen]

With vsync on wont that increase input lag? or does gsync being on at the same time eliminate that?

In G-Sync mode, Vsync On means that your frame rate cannot exceed your refresh rate. So, if your display is at 144 Hz, you cannot exceed 144 fps. While the game runs at that upper limit, the display is essentially in Vsync mode and this adds a tiny bit of latency.
As soon as the rate falls, G-Sync mode takes over and the latency is reduced again.

You can optionally turn Vsync off with G-Sync mode, this allows your frame rate to exceed the refresh limit, but you will see tearing at frame rates above 144. So, 1-144 fps = G-Sync mode. > 144 fps = Vsync off and tearing.

 

[Vuze]

Question for dual monitor owners.

If I have one screen be a 27" 1440p gsync screen and one screen be 24" 1080p (non gsync), as long as I game on the 1440p screen will I have any issue with this setup?

I also run a 1440p Gsync and 1080p Non-Gsync, no issues whatsoever.
I had some trouble in Windows 7 since I use the 1080p in portrait mode but that wasn't Gsync-related. Smooth sailing in Windows 10.

 

[NIN90]

After using a G-Sync display (AOC G2460PG) for a few weeks now I gotta say that I'm a little underwhelmed, to the point where I'm not entirely sure if G-Sync is actually turned on (the ingame indicator says it's on though when I have it enabled) since it barely makes any perceptible difference to me.
50 FPS in The Witcher 3 still very much feels like 50 FPS to me and not like 60 FPS as I was lead to believe (or at least that's what I remember hearing).
Despite disabling V-Sync in almost every game, tearing was never really a problem for me on my prior displays so that aspect of the technology doesn't blow me away either.

 

[mochi~]

Just bought 2 pg279q. No dead pixels, barely minimal blb, amazing. Just amazing. Even moving mouse cursor feels euphoric.

 

[Korezo]

After using a G-Sync display (AOC G2460PG) for a few weeks now I gotta say that I'm a little underwhelmed, to the point where I'm not entirely sure if G-Sync is actually turned on (the ingame indicator says it's on though when I have it enabled) since it barely makes any perceptible difference to me.
50 FPS in The Witcher 3 still very much feels like 50 FPS to me and not like 60 FPS as I was lead to believe (or at least that's what I remember hearing).
Despite disabling V-Sync in almost every game, tearing was never really a problem for me on my prior displays so that aspect of the technology doesn't blow me away either.

I got a gysync to but I was stupid and got a 4k one, What I noticed while playing witcher 3, gtav or any game I tried at 4k max settings was that it removed screen tear and any stutter. But when it drops from 60 you can tell its not as smooth as running on 60, I can only tell when its below 50fps. Better than having vsync and having a stuttering mess that happens when ever it drops frames. gysync was probably meant for fps 50-100+

 

[Durante]

After using a G-Sync display (AOC G2460PG) for a few weeks now I gotta say that I'm a little underwhelmed, to the point where I'm not entirely sure if G-Sync is actually turned on (the ingame indicator says it's on though when I have it enabled) since it barely makes any perceptible difference to me.
50 FPS in The Witcher 3 still very much feels like 50 FPS to me and not like 60 FPS as I was lead to believe (or at least that's what I remember hearing).
Despite disabling V-Sync in almost every game, tearing was never really a problem for me on my prior displays so that aspect of the technology doesn't blow me away either.

Witcher 3 is probably not a very good test case, since that game has large inherent framepacing spikes which G-sync can't really fully mitigate.

Regardless of that, if you had no issue with tearing at 60 Hz without V-sync you are clearly an alien anyway

 

[NIN90]

Witcher 3 is probably not a very good test case, since that game has large inherent framepacing spikes which G-sync can't really fully mitigate.

Regardless of that, if you had no issue with tearing at 60 Hz without V-sync you are clearly an alien anyway

Naw my previous display was 120hz. Had it for over 4 years.

 

[Mister Negative]

After using a G-Sync display (AOC G2460PG) for a few weeks now I gotta say that I'm a little underwhelmed, to the point where I'm not entirely sure if G-Sync is actually turned on (the ingame indicator says it's on though when I have it enabled) since it barely makes any perceptible difference to me.
50 FPS in The Witcher 3 still very much feels like 50 FPS to me and not like 60 FPS as I was lead to believe (or at least that's what I remember hearing).
Despite disabling V-Sync in almost every game, tearing was never really a problem for me on my prior displays so that aspect of the technology doesn't blow me away either.

Yeah, I'm kinda in the same boat. I've had issues with The Division and The Witcher 3 to the point where I kinda wonder if it was really worth it. It's doubly bad because I feel like if The Division goes down to ~65 FPS, it looks even worse than 60 ever did. It's VERY choppy.

Fortunately, I got and SSD and started playing GTA V again on G-sync off of the SSD...and it's the most buttery smooth game i've ever played. It's amazing.

 

[Self_Destructive]

Witcher 3 is probably not a very good test case, since that game has large inherent framepacing spikes which G-sync can't really fully mitigate.

Regardless of that, if you had no issue with tearing at 60 Hz without V-sync you are clearly an alien anyway

I have a 165hz Gsync monitor and no matter what I tried with The Witcher 3, there was always framepacing issues resulting in judder on the screen. Used to drive me crazy. Tried programs like Rivatuner, d3doverrider, and all sorts of framelimiting from various overclocking softwares.

Nothing worked.

Then I read a post somewhere about how it was a quirk of the engine and what to do to fix it. The way it was described and which worked for me was to go into the Nvidia control panel and limit the pre-rendered frames to 1 (for Witcher 3 specifically) and then go into the Documents\The Witcher 3 folder and edit User.ini file. There's a LimitFPS value which if set to 30 or 60 exactly will cause problems. Setting it to 59 worked perfectly for me and now the game is 100% smooth.

Sure, I don't get to take advantage of the really high refreshrate that my monitor/pc is capable of, but at least the game is smooth and stutter free.

 

[Keyouta]

Ordered an Acer XB271HU, should be getting it in on Monday. Will be good to be back to a dual monitor setup but I don't know yet how I will fit a 27" + 24" on my desk.

 

[LogicStep]

So what's the general consensus on here between the Acer Predator XB271HU and the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q?

 

[Celcius]

I got a gysync to but I was stupid and got a 4k one, What I noticed while playing witcher 3, gtav or any game I tried at 4k max settings was that it removed screen tear and any stutter. But when it drops from 60 you can tell its not as smooth as running on 60, I can only tell when its below 50fps. Better than having vsync and having a stuttering mess that happens when ever it drops frames. gysync was probably meant for fps 50-100+

What monitor do you have?

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Is there any consensus about the best all-around 1440p G-Sync monitor? I'm considering upgrading from my 1080p monitor, but might hold out until next year's models.

 

[Arulan]

Is there any consensus about the best all-around 1440p G-Sync monitor? I'm considering upgrading from my 1080p monitor, but might hold out until next year's models.

So what's the general consensus on here between the Acer Predator XB271HU and the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q?

These two. The only thing is that they both suffer from quality control issues, specifically non-uniform brightness and bleeding. The differences are minor between the two. It basically comes down to which design you prefer, control interface, etc. Last I heard the Acer might give you a better chance at that lottery, but I don't know if there is any truth to that.

 

[Over-Run]

Anybody in EU might like this:

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B017DG09WM/

44% off on Amazon Germany. Just ordered one to Ireland and cost e 463 including shipping. Considering these are usually 850ish I'm a very happy man.

Is this in general considered to be the best monitor at the moment for gaming?

 

[Vuze]

Anybody in EU might like this:

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B017DG09WM/

44% off on Amazon Germany. Just ordered one to Ireland and cost e 463 including shipping. Considering these are usually 850ish I'm a very happy man.

Is this in general considered to be the best monitor at the moment for gaming?

Shows as 779 for me? Or do you mean the used offer? I would be VERY careful with that one. 350€ for a 800€ monitor? No feedback? Stinks. Homepage is also just a placeholder site.
Just looked at their product portfolio. 11k expensive articles for like 300~400 bucks. 3€ shipping for fridges and washing machines? Yeah...

Definitely cancel your order and report to CS if that's the shop you ordered through, it's scam:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/help/custom...umID=Fx33KMZFHN8X92G&cdThread=Tx27QIGV7S4PHRJ
https://www.amazon.de/gp/help/custo...umID=Fx33KMZFHN8X92G&cdThread=Tx2KPUS6NPYIOJ4

Amazon should really step up their marketplace game, while researching on this I found a shitton of other dubious, no feedback sellers that all sold huge amounts of electronics for incredibly low prices following the same pattern.

 

[Over-Run]

It was 450 but I checked again an hour later and it went up.
The seller I got it off was:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...tocol=current&seller=A2J6O2Y1GDHOQP&sshmPath=

Who have very good reviews
Hoping they don't cancel the order, they also disallowed shipping to Ireland too

 

[Vuze]

It was 450 but I checked again an hour later and it went up.
The seller I got it off was:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...tocol=current&seller=A2J6O2Y1GDHOQP&sshmPath=

Who have very good reviews
Hoping they don't cancel the order, they also disallowed shipping to Ireland too

Well then, good luck. Seems decent but still weird for a shop that mainly sells... plants... to offer a gaming monitor as well xD

 

[Otheradam]

These two. The only thing is that they both suffer from quality control issues, specifically non-uniform brightness and bleeding. The differences are minor between the two. It basically comes down to which design you prefer, control interface, etc. Last I heard the Acer might give you a better chance at that lottery, but I don't know if there is any truth to that.

From my experience, they are not the same quality control-wise. I bought both when then launched, and the Asus had way more severe backlight bleed and uniformity issues. I tried 2 samples and returned both. I also tried 2 samples of the ACER and both were way better. I was happy both. I'm sure they have both gotten better by now as this was back in December. But reading forms at the time, almost no one had a "prefect" Asus monitor.

 

[LogicStep]

From my experience, they are not the same quality control-wise. I bought both when then launched, and the Asus had way more severe backlight bleed and uniformity issues. I tried 2 samples and returned both. I also tried 2 samples of the ACER and both were way better. I was happy both. I'm sure they have both gotten better by now as this was back in December. But reading forms at the time, almost no one had a "prefect" Asus monitor.

IwantT to believe they are better now but I haven't really looked into much recent reviews or user experiences. I'm gravitating towards the Asus but I haven't made up my mind yet. The Asus looks much cleaner from what I've seen design wise. The Acer has a cool stand but seems to have a lot of wobble and the Asus seems to have better colors.

 

[Over-Run]

Well then, good luck. Seems decent but still weird for a shop that mainly sells... plants... to offer a gaming monitor as well xD

Haha didn't notice that. Yeah I'm hoping they don't cancel the order but fingers croseed

 

[Deleted member 17706]

These two. The only thing is that they both suffer from quality control issues, specifically non-uniform brightness and bleeding. The differences are minor between the two. It basically comes down to which design you prefer, control interface, etc. Last I heard the Acer might give you a better chance at that lottery, but I don't know if there is any truth to that.

Thanks! I'll probably just hold out for the next year's models, then.

 

[Kysen]

Where are these monitors for under £500? and no I'm not paying that much for a TN panel. These things are rare but hasn't this tech been out for years now.

 

[e90Mark]

Just got my Dell S2716DG and all I can say is "wow" coming from an XL2411z.
Went TN because I still want that 1ms GTG, but I think this looks really nice calibrated.

 

[Pendas]

Where are these monitors for under £500? and no I'm not paying that much for a TN panel. These things are rare but hasn't this tech been out for years now.

The Dell S2716DG is on sale at newegg right now for 480. I suggest jumping on that quick since they tend to last less than a day.

 

[Gumbie]

I have a 165hz Gsync monitor and no matter what I tried with The Witcher 3, there was always framepacing issues resulting in judder on the screen. Used to drive me crazy. Tried programs like Rivatuner, d3doverrider, and all sorts of framelimiting from various overclocking softwares.

Nothing worked.

Then I read a post somewhere about how it was a quirk of the engine and what to do to fix it. The way it was described and which worked for me was to go into the Nvidia control panel and limit the pre-rendered frames to 1 (for Witcher 3 specifically) and then go into the Documents\The Witcher 3 folder and edit User.ini file. There's a LimitFPS value which if set to 30 or 60 exactly will cause problems. Setting it to 59 worked perfectly for me and now the game is 100% smooth.

Sure, I don't get to take advantage of the really high refreshrate that my monitor/pc is capable of, but at least the game is smooth and stutter free.

Just wanted to say your instructions worked wonderfully for me. Thank you!

 

[Vuze]

AUO roadmap:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/35.htm#auo_panels_june

In production shortly:
25"/27" TN 1080p 240hz
35" 21:9 VA 3440 x 1440p 100hz/200hz
35" 21:9 VA 2560 x 1080 200hz
30" 21:9 VA 2560 x 1080 200hz
31,5" VA 1440p 144hz
27" VA 1440p 144hz

Later 2016:
32" TN/VA 4k
27" IPS 4k 144hz

Slated for 2017:
32" IPS 5k
1440p 240hz

Exciting and expensive times ahead in the gaming monitor market =)

 

[Dahaka]

So what's the general consensus on here between the Acer Predator XB271HU and the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q?

Acer by now is much better in the lottery. Had plenty of Asus like a friend of mine (I had 4, he had 9 @_@) and while his first Acer was great for me it was the second.

The Neogaf PC Builder's thread mentions this too and they are right.

Loving mine so much and won't ever change it until OLED comes with 120Hz+, HDR and VRR because only OLED really changes the motion blur game.

 

[murgo]

Just got my Dell S2716DG and all I can say is "wow" coming from an XL2411z.
Went TN because I still want that 1ms GTG, but I think this looks really nice calibrated.

I got mine a couple of days ago. I'm still using my AMD 7970 though, so I can't properly test it yet

 

[LaneDS]

AUO roadmap:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/35.htm#auo_panels_june

In production shortly:
25"/27" TN 1080p 240hz
35" 21:9 VA 3440 x 1440p 100hz/200hz
35" 21:9 VA 2560 x 1080 200hz
30" 21:9 VA 2560 x 1080 200hz
31,5" VA 1440p 144hz
27" VA 1440p 144hz

Later 2016:
32" TN/VA 4k
27" IPS 4k 144hz

Slated for 2017:
32" IPS 5k
1440p 240hz

Exciting and expensive times ahead in the gaming monitor market =)

Appreciated this post! There are a few that you listed that meet what I'm looking for. Thinking either:

35" 21:9 VA 3440 x 1440p 100hz/200hz
or
31,5" VA 1440p 144hz

Would be pretty great so I'll be watching out for those.

 

[e90Mark]

AUO roadmap:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/35.htm#auo_panels_june

In production shortly:
25"/27" TN 1080p 240hz
35" 21:9 VA 3440 x 1440p 100hz/200hz
35" 21:9 VA 2560 x 1080 200hz
30" 21:9 VA 2560 x 1080 200hz
31,5" VA 1440p 144hz
27" VA 1440p 144hz

Later 2016:
32" TN/VA 4k
27" IPS 4k 144hz

Slated for 2017:
32" IPS 5k
1440p 240hz

Exciting and expensive times ahead in the gaming monitor market =)

Great post, thanks.

I'm really interested in that 27" VA 1440p 144hz. That sounds perfect to me.
Still wondering if the grass is greener on the ultrawide side, though.

I got mine a couple of days ago. I'm still using my AMD 7970 though, so I can't properly test it yet

I think you'll really like it. I didn't know what I was missing with g-sync, until I used it.

 

[Durante]

AUO roadmap:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/35.htm#auo_panels_june

In production shortly:
25"/27" TN 1080p 240hz
35" 21:9 VA 3440 x 1440p 100hz/200hz
35" 21:9 VA 2560 x 1080 200hz
30" 21:9 VA 2560 x 1080 200hz
31,5" VA 1440p 144hz
27" VA 1440p 144hz

Later 2016:
32" TN/VA 4k
27" IPS 4k 144hz

Slated for 2017:
32" IPS 5k
1440p 240hz

Exciting and expensive times ahead in the gaming monitor market =)

All that VA stuff. Finally!

(Just in time for it to get less interesting due to OLED )

 

[Hari Seldon]

I really want a higher pixel density monitor and not a larger monitor. I wish I could get a 24" 1440p gsync display.

 

[RCSI]

All that VA stuff. Finally!

(Just in time for it to get less interesting due to OLED )

While there are not a lot of high refresh rate VA monitors out there, contrast ratios on the ones that are out seem to be in the range of 2000-3000. Is it that much better even with that small jump?

 

[Self_Destructive]

Just wanted to say your instructions worked wonderfully for me. Thank you!

That's great to hear!

It was so nice to be able to have that issue behind me and instead actually focus on playing and enjoying The Witcher 3 to the fullest.

Cheers

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

Acer XB271HU is $679.99 shipped at Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824106004&FM=1

Daily deal.

 

[Durante]

While there are not a lot of high refresh rate VA monitors out there, contrast ratios on the ones that are out seem to be in the range of 2000-3000. Is it that much better even with that small jump?

Is it a small jump? A 3000 contrast ratio means 3 times lower black levels than any IPS or TN monitor.

I don't consider that small at all.

 

[Deleted member 59090]

In production shortly:

30" 21:9 VA 2560 x 1080 200hz

This looks like a perfect fit for me.

 

[Psykoboy2]

Acer XB271HU is $679.99 shipped at Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824106004&FM=1

Daily deal.

Damn! I'd have jumped on this had I known about it earlier.

 

[epmode]

Do any of these G-Sync monitors handle non-native scaling themselves or is it always up to your videocard? Unlike my last monitor, my G-Sync Acer doesn't scale anything on its own.

(I ask because I'm seeing blurring even when scaling from a resolution that's a perfect multiple of my native resolution. It should be perfectly sharp but Nvidia's scaling solution always introduces blurring)

 

[SUPARSTARX]

What's the best G-Sync options at 27" 1440p? Or even just 1440p?

 

[lionpants]

My story.

So, I was doing a bunch of research a few weeks ago because I really wanted to see what all the fuss was about.

I knew I wanted 2560 x 1440 and 27" so that left 3 choices...

- Asus PG279Q ROG Swift
- Acer XB271HU
- Dell S2716DG

The Dell is harder to obtain in Canada so I decided to look at reviews for the A&A. It appeared that the consensus was that both monitors are a gamble as far as quality control goes, but you have a bit better chance with the Acer. Plus, I could easily order the Acer from BestBuy.ca and their return policy is badass.

Since I hate backlight bleeding more than any defects a monitor can have (except stuck pixels - but I classify that as broken) I ordered 6 of the Acer from BestBuy to ensure I received one that I was happy with. It is crazy to think you need to even worry about that when paying 1k for a monitor, but I digress.

Delivery day came. The delivery guy thought I was insane as he loaded 6 monitors out of his van. I excitedly started opening the boxes.

I set all monitors to 25 brightness before assessing the backlight bleeding.

The first monitor had insanely bad yellowish bleed in the bottom right corner. I boxed it back up and tried the next one.

1. Yellowish bleed, bottom right.
2. Bright white bleed, bottom right.
3. Yellowish bleed again in bottom right, some in bottom left
4. White bleed in bottom right, much better than the others - still noticeable in dark scenes/games
5. Bright white, bottom right
6. Yellowish, bottom right

Deflated. I decided I might be able to live with monitor #4, so I boxed up the rest. I setup the monitor, setup control panel and started playing games.

Holy moly at the difference. Overwatch felt like a much faster game and was MORE enjoyable to play, WoW was very smooth, Witcher 3 was beautiful and smooth (had to bump down to high because of the resolution increase).

Every game was so much more enjoyable to play, it's hard to explain other than that.

I went a week (Best Buy's return policy is 14 days) with my new monitor, but I just couldn't stop noticing the bleeding in the bottom right corner when games would fade to black. I kept thinking about how much I paid for the thing and eventually decided to pack it up with the rest of them and spend an hour at Best Buy returning them.

At home; I hooked up my old monitor and started playing Overwatch. I was in shock. I honestly thought something was wrong, it felt like it was running at 30fps. So I turned on the FPS overlay to double check. Nope, it was running at solid 60fps. I couldn't believe the difference. I couldn't believe I had been playing like this all along. The game felt insanely sluggish and I was playing poorly because of it.

So... I started looking at the Dell S2716DG.

I ordered one from Newegg.ca and it arrives today. Here's hoping I don't have to return it to Newegg, because they don't have physical stores.


I noticed some people above saying they're not sure if it is worth it. I say to that; just try going back to your old 60hz monitor and see what you think then.

PS: Those 6 Acer monitors are still at the Best Buy in Cambridge, Ontario - if anyone wants to try and get a open box deal on them and you don't mind backlight bleeding.

 

[Vuze]

What's the best G-Sync options at 27" 1440p? Or even just 1440p?

Asus ROG Swift PG279Q or Acer XB271HU for IPS, and then there's the Dell TN model which I don't know the model number of which is cheaper.

 

[Durante]

What's the best G-Sync options at 27" 1440p? Or even just 1440p?

The Acer XB271HU.