Brexit |OT| UK Referendum on EU Membership - 23 June 2016

Did you vote for the side that is going to win?

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SuperSah said:
Just read on the Guardian that 4 final polls gave remain an edge but 2 put leave ahead.

This could well and truly be similar to the Tories' unprecedented landslide victory of last year.


The reality of Leave is very much a real thing.
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I trust the bookies on that one. It won''t be really close.
 
I saw some old bint tell a Remain volunteer outside Waterloo that the EU is a dictatorship. She looked like a complete Leave snob anyway.
 
Drunk_Dutch_Owl said:
Perhaps a bit late and not sure if posted already, copied from a well know blog in the Netherlands:

Dear Brits,

Allow us a minute of your time to tell you an anecdote about democracy in the European Union.

Last April, the Netherlands held a national referendum on the EU Association Treaty with Ukraine. We, the organisers, wanted to have a more direct say in European Union developments, because we are worried about the ongoing and highly undemocratic expansionism of the EU. No government in Europe should be allowed to make far-reaching decisions without a majority consent.

So we set out to do something about it, and thanks to a successful Internet campaign and nearly half a million signatures, we forced our government to hold a referendum.

On April 6, a convincing 61 percent of the Dutch voters said "No" to the undesirable Association Treaty. So was that the end of that? Was democracy saved from the talons of the EU technocrats?

Unfortunately, no. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, forced by his betters in Brussels, decided to completely ignore the outcome of the referendum. The Dutch voter was shunned by their national leaders, and, once again, democratic voices were muffled by the unelected officials of the European Union.

As the organizers of the Dutch referendum, we are not here to meddle in your national business. Dear Lord no -- We're not Brussels. But we do feel a need to tell you our story. Because democracy matters. And in the European Union - the people's voices are silenced and shunned.

Read and share our story. Decide for yourself how highly you value the sovereignty of your national democracy. And cast your vote accordingly on June 23rd.

With love,
Your democratic friends from the Netherlands
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"A well known blog"

Lmao, GeenStijl is a fucking joke and so was that entire "referendum". They spend most of their time posting videos of high school kids fighting and trying to be edgy. A convincing 61% because only the dumb, ignorant baboons who vote Wilders showed up. Don't try to press that joke referendum and GeenStijl as something with actual credibility.
 
SuperSah said:
Just read on the Guardian that 4 final polls gave remain an edge but 2 put leave ahead.

This could well and truly be similar to the Tories' unprecedented landslide victory of last year.


The reality of Leave is very much a real thing.
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It's certainly a shame that 36% of the votes equals a landslide. The majority of voters didn't want them, yet we're saddled with them; not to mention those who didn't vote or weren't registered.
 
ag-my001 said:
Curious American here:

From what I've read a close Remain win seems most likely, but what would that really mean? I saw the last big vote was a 2-1 margin, so yeah, that seems reasonable to stand for a generation or two. What about a 52-48 outcome? Does that buy 5-10 years, or will some try to talk up a "mandate from the people" for another 20+ year interval?
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Whilst some people will immediately start campaigning for a referendum (such as Nigel Farage who I hope I never have to see or hear of again after today) but for most it will be 5 years at least before it would be able to be brought up again without people telling you to shut your face.

Really there is only one party (UKIP) and probably less than half the Tories who support this, and the only reason Cameron even gave the option of a referendum was to get some votes.

Hopefully we'll move away from immigration being a main issue and on to more pressing things, so any referendum movement won't get any support. hopefully.
 
Carl2291 said:
Thanks for posting this. It's essentially what our Leave campaigners have been saying over the last few weeks (or years in UKIPs case).

Nice to hear an outside voice.
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It's the same bullshit that leave said, yeah. First, this has nothing to do with the European Union (the EU can't force the Dutch PM to say yes or no to the EU-Ukraine association treaty). Second, representative democracy, how does it work!?
 
Bek Sloy said:
It's certainly a shame that 36% of the votes equals a landslide. The majority of voters didn't want them, yet we're saddled with them; not to mention those who didn't vote or weren't registered.
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As far as I am concerned, if you did not vote then you don't have the right to be upset etc.

Your vote is there to give you the chance, whether or not it comes to fruitition.
 
If it's a remain win this thing will be buried for decades.

Business community in general are having a stroke right now.
 
Matt_ said:
Hopefully we'll move away from immigration being a main issue and on to more pressing things
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I'm honestly baffled why Migration even comes up in the referendum discussions. Britain isn't part of the shengen area so it's not like being in the EU is really hampering our ability to control our borders much anyhoo and if we left and wanted to still trade with the european central market we'd have to agree to open borders anyhoo as that's one of the central parts of any deal to be involved with it.
As such, I'm kind of surprised that Farage, or anyone against immigration, is in favour of leave :P
 
avaya said:
If it's a remain win this thing will be buried for decades.

Business community in general are having a stroke right now.
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We're pretty chill actually - work for a global financial (in I.T) and we have a technical change freeze in place till the 28th because of this.

Since change drives most of my work in the online infrastructure, we've gotta kick back and watch football. Bad times :)

Remain have indeed got this. That is not to say the Leavers be disrespected, many are damn good people.
 
JonathanEx said:
GAF PREDICTIONS

Right, I'm ready to reopen the GAF predictions spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Atr8Mb1up4xLLJXJT1OqPgnqBEF_4iBz0Dbvy9mDWr0/edit?usp=sharing

Any new predictions, post them and I'll add them in.

If you've already given a prediction, but want to update it, then do as well. Personally while I'm still happy with my percentage - I've upped turnout because I've changed my mind on that.


EDIT: Maybe I should add a column for best British sweet too.
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53% remain
47% leave
68% turnout
 
Garrett Hawke said:
Did anyone else triple check their vote before putting it in the box

Like... it's pretty fucking clear but just in case. :P
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yeah,

I didn't sleep too well last night and I knew which one it was but I kind of went "hold on let me check" "wait it is right?!?" "ok"
 
liquidtmd said:
We're pretty chill actually - work for a global financial (in I.T) and we have a technical change freeze in place till the 28th because of this.

Since change drives most of my work in the online infrastructure, we've gotta kick back and watch football. Bad times :)
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The amount of money waiting on the sidelines to rush into this country and Europe if it's a remain vote is ridiculous.
 
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Well now I'm second guessing myself.
 
I met this cat on the way back from the polling station.
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It tried to follow me home but its owner came along and berated it for wandering off.

This day has been a rollercoaster.
 
I did walk through Waterloo station an hour ago and it was proper rammed. Very few trains running. But it probably won't change much: there's gonna at least be 40% of Leave voters there too, potentially going to miss their vote, so it'll make a very tiny difference and I believe it won't swing the outcome. Same goes for any other major station with people temporarily stranded.
 
SymbiantXenos said:
Mine was checked by mi5 mi6 and 007 just imcase.

Think im good.
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The deluxe suppression treatment!
Datsuki said:
Yeah, I was worried when I came out that I'd dun goofed and voted leave.
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jufonuk said:
yeah,

I didn't sleep too well last night and I knew which one it was but I kind of went "hold on let me check" "wait it is right?!?" "ok"
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Same tbh. And then I didn't fold it properly before putting it in the box so I had an awkward extra few seconds before putting it in. lmao
 
I voted today for this first time in my life. I would like us to leave the EU but there's too many negatives that would come with it, especially economically. So I went with the sensible Remain vote.

I'd be quite nervous if Leave ends up winning.
 
avaya said:
If it's a remain win this thing will be buried for decades.

Business community in general are having a stroke right now.
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My company has a couple clients in finance here in Atlanta and they're on edge. They do not want to lose that bridge to Europe and have to rebuild their infrastructure.
 
It won't be the same without the british.
Europe is a collection of bizarre, cluncky states, comparable to a real-life sitcom, proofing every day that prejudices are just truth painted with a bigger brush. But in the end they all stick together and I just love that.
I don't care so much for economical reasons, I just want to keep my european freak union. And GB always was an important part of it.
 
popo said:
Why are postal votes not more popular? All my family voted last week. No rush, no fuss.
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For me voting in person on the day is partly tradition, but mostly the thrill of the chase - much like watching sports live rather than recorded, or playing cards for money rather than matchsticks.

Voting early before the campaign ends is like reviewing a movie you have only half watched.

Besides, as you know, I like to have serious chats with people during the campaign so that I can maybe persuade them and maybe they can persuade me and anyway we can learn each others' perspectives. It would seem to me to be cheating to do that after having already cast a definitive vote myself.
 
SuperSah said:
Just read on the Guardian that 4 final polls gave remain an edge but 2 put leave ahead.

This could well and truly be similar to the Tories' unprecedented landslide victory of last year.


The reality of Leave is very much a real thing.
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I can easily see Leave winning by a big margin
 
I wonder how many of these older people that are statistically more likely to vote leave, voted to join the common market in 1975? They would have been idealistic youngish whippersnappers 40 years ago.
 
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