Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)

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ChawlieTheFair

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That is correct that the weaving move that shooter made in the video is a trained tactic. But, we must keep in mind that things like that can be learned from anywhere on the internet these days. The more suspect thing is how the shooter composed themselves during that shooting before, during, and after that point.

Calm and calculated.
 

Bad_Boy

time to take my meds
Oh certainly is. He fires a shot to the left to draw the officers attention so he can swoop behind.

i don't know if it was so much the fire to the left to draw him that direction. at that range, the sound of any shot could of came from either side of the pillar.

i think the cop saw him walking one direction and planned on dropping him when he came past. but the guy just said, nope, and went the other way. but the way he advanced...didnt just seem like luck of choosing sides. he knew what he was doing.
 

Deku Tree

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Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.
 

Surface of Me

I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.

Police can be innocent too, you know.
 
Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.

This won't get Trump elected.
 

sphagnum

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Oh my god, just woke up to this, what a terrible tragedy... My condolences to the officers families. I'm so confused, did the shooting take place from a building? Read someone mention an officer got shot trying to take him down. Seems everything is over at least...

Did the killers suicide? No arrests?

And as a non American, who is that Hughes guy that people mentioned was pissed. Wow caught the YouTube clip, someone on social media accused a protestor for the shooting? Disgusting, glad he's ok.

Man 2016 has been crazy

There were possibly 4 people involved in the shooting. 3 were arrested, one shot himself.

Hughes was a person of interest who the media "accidentally" started treating as if he was a suspect. He was a protestor with a gun (the shooting happened after a protest), so naturally people thought it was him, but footage proved that he was just standing around while the shooting started. He turned himself in to the police to sort it all out and was let go but he's been getting death threats.
 

Krejlooc

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At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president

DPD getting shot at is not going to make hispanics and black people vote for Trump. Trump cannot win with the white vote alone.
 
I'm a black male in Dallas (currently working night shift), and this shit is terrifying. My apartment is 3 miles from the parking garage, and the streets and the highway are shutdown. My gf could hear the shots from the apartment.... Can't even go home now
 

Kin5290

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Yeah its texas, the cops there have more then enough fire power i'm sure.
Nearly all police departments issue M4s or AR-15 derivatives after the North Hollywood shootout, where two suspects in heavy body armor suits and AK type rifles just shrugged off a hail of pistol rounds and buckshot from less armored, less armed police.
 

Cromwell

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i don't know if it was so much the fire to the left to draw him that direction. at that range, the sound of any shot could of came from either side of the pillar.

i think the cop saw him walking one direction and planned on dropping him when he came past. but the guy just said, nope, and went the other way. but the way he advanced...didnt just seem like luck of choosing sides. he knew what he was doing.

Yeah, dude was a professional. Firing on the left side and then immediately flanking to the right was some insane ex-military shit or something. Even people trained in firearms would seriously hesitate to just round the corner like that in case the cop was facing the other direction.
 

Staccat0

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Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.
Also 5 people were murdered while essentailly defending/supporting protesters.
 

deefol

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you've been a litle behind in your posts, but yes. One suspect was a woman, in addition to 2 guys from 1-35 and the shooter in the video i believe.

It's the morning in the UK, everyone is watching America right now.

The government there should really take a look at guns
 

Two Words

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Go about you're day but be aware that things are hot. But you shouldn't just stop living you're life.

It's 3 AM here. What are you even talking about. I don't think it is critical for people to go clubbing or anything in downtown Dallas right now. If you don't feel it is safe to be in the area, don't be in the area.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
That is correct that the weaving move that shooter made in the video is a trained tactic. But, we must keep in mind that things like that can be learned from anywhere on the internet these days. The more suspect thing is how the shooter composed themselves during that shooting before, during, and after that point.

The composure is what stands out the most to me. This person was in a firefight with multiple police officers at the same time. And they just cruised along like it was nothing.
 

Boney

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A suspect held up in a garage for several hours be finally killing himself. 3 others are in custody.



The younger Hughes brother was called as a suspect because of misinformation.
Thanks for answering. Any sand speculation as to why this happened based on the coward who killed himself?
 

PopeReal

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Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.

We don't have to let anything happen like that. We didn't need to be here now but we chose not to deal with it. But the opportunity is still here. We can still make things change for the better. We just can't let those around us who are basing their life on fear make our decisions.
 

Alucrid

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Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.

this is a strange post that seems to make the casualties of these officers a mere inconvenience for the poster
 
Nearly all police departments issue M4s or AR-15 derivatives after the North Hollywood shootout, where two suspects in heavy body armor suits and AK type rifles just shrugged off a hail of pistol rounds and buckshot from less armored, less armed police.

Why are people assuming that i don't know that other police department don't have a stock pile of weaponry? its the reason why the NRA argument that police or other would be alive if they had better more lethal guns or more guns period.

It's 3 AM here. What are you even talking about. I don't think it is critical for people to go clubbing or anything in downtown Dallas right now. If you don't feel it is safe to be in the area, don't be in the area.

Jesus christ

I'm talking in a general sense jesus neogaf.
 

Cromwell

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Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.

I'm really confused as to how this can help Trump. All it does is embolden his base that hates black people, but it can't possibly get him new followers. He couldn't even get positive attention from Orlando, and that was basically ISIS.
 

Veitsev

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Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.

Trump will mishandle this and make an ass of himself within the next 24 hours, likely multiple times. Don't worry about the election.
 

TheJLC

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Nearly all police departments issue M4s or AR-15 derivatives after the North Hollywood shootout, where two suspects in heavy body armor suits and AK type rifles just shrugged off a hail of pistol rounds and buckshot from less armored, less armed police.
Yup but not all officers are issued or trained with carbines in the US. Same thing here, only every other officer had a carbine while that cop who got shot in the back had nothing but what looks to be a sidearm,
 
I think I'll cut them a little more slack today.

No.

They plastered that guy's picture, it spread across the country, and they won't apologize or publicly clear them.

This is a tragedy but they still have a job to do, and their job isn't to plaster innocent people's faces and it's especially not their job to do that and not fix it.
 
Thanks for answering. Any sand speculation as to why this happened based on the coward who killed himself?

Not much information beyond he wanted to kill more police officers, and something about the end is near.
It was a coordinated sniper attack that primarily targeted the police.
More info will probably come from his accomplice.
 

Breads

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Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.

Speaking as a hispanic who primarily interracts with poc the consensus I have between locals/ friends/ family is this kind of violence, either way, was always a real possibility long before Trump was even a thing. That LEO were actually attacked is something people always say would eventually happen but.. well.. we didn't exactly think it would happen. Not like this. Trump is just a silly racist piece of shit and his candidacy is a joke that went too far. What happened here is something removed from fleeting talking points or elections.

That said I'm trying to convince people to vote. Unfortunately most of them aren't going to even bother voting.
 

Bad_Boy

time to take my meds
Yeah, dude was a professional. Firing on the left side and then immediately flanking to the right was some insane ex-military shit or something. Even people trained in firearms would seriously hesitate to just round the corner like that in case the cop was facing the other direction.

with that knowledge. and i don't want to get ahead of the evidence we have, because i would love to speculate all day but i'm truly at a loss of what kind of group would do this.

i look forward to official reports of who these guys/girls are.
 

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Maybe I'm wrong for thinking it's implied, but the implication of a lot of people calling it 'counterproductive' in various different words is that BLM supporters did it. This type of speculation about specific political motives is natural but not good.
 

mo60

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Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.

Usually when their is chaos people vote for the person that can best keep them safe. Based off of previous events like this shooting and trump's perosnality people will want to vote for the safer option more which is Hilary.

I hope the families of the officiers who were killed or injured are doing okay.
 
Speaking as a hispanic who primarily interracts with poc the consensus I have between locals/ friends/ family is this kind of violence, either way, was always a real possibility long before Trump was even a thing. That LEO were actually attacked is something people always say would eventually happen but.. well.. we didn't exactly think it would happen. Not like this. Trump is just a silly racist piece of shit and his candidacy is a joke that went too far. What happened here is something removed from fleeting talking points or elections.

That said I'm trying to convince people to vote. Unfortunately most of them aren't going to even bother voting.

Yeah uhhh...this been brewing before Trump. This has been brewing for literally decades. We don't know all the details, but this has nothing to do with the election cycle.
 
Police shooting innocent people is inexcusable and can not be tolerated.

At the same time I am deeply afraid that these kinds of intentional shootings of cops can actually turn the tide of public opinion and get someone like Trump elected president, which would then in my opinion make the problem worse and further exacerbate the real problems.

Let's please not make this tragedy about who might be president?

Besides, Trump and Clinton are both idiots in their own way. Either way America is fucked in some shape or form.
 

TheShocker

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Maybe I'm wrong for thinking it's implied, but the implication of a lot of people calling it 'counterproductive' in various different words is that BLM supporters did it. This type of speculation about specific political motives is natural but not good.
I'm a cop. I don't think that's implied. Shame on anyone who does. I feel that Dallas PD and the BLM protest were a scheduled and unified event. The people that did this are monsters and IMO do not represent the what was supposed to take place.
 

DiscoJer

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this is a strange post that seems to make the casualties of these officers a mere inconvenience for the poster

Is it really a strange post? In the US today, any interaction you have with the police can result in you being killed and your killer suffering no penalty besides administrative leave. If you are black, you happen to be more likely to have an interaction with police and be more likely to die from it.

These are things that affect the life of almost everyone. It's much more than a mere "inconvenience".

Police reform in this country is an important issue, and something like this, while a personal tragedy for those that know the officers killed, has the potential to be a worse tragedy for those killed in the future because police reform was pushed to the side.
 

deefol

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Let's please not make this tragedy about who might be president?

Besides, Trump and Clinton are both idiots in their own way. Either way America is fucked in some shape or form.

Basically, it's such an advanced country in so many sectors flawed with backwards laws and thinking
 

manfestival

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with all due respect can we keep the trump/hillary commentary for the other 100 threads about it? I am kind of tired of that conversation splintering into every thread. Feeling pretty angry about this happening the more I watch coverage. Time to turn everything off
 

Surface of Me

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Is it really a strange post? In the US today, any interaction you have with the police can result in you being killed and your killer suffering no penalty besides administrative leave. If you are black, you happen to be more likely to have an interaction with police and be more likely to die from it.

These are things that affect the life of almost everyone. It's much more than a mere "inconvenience".

Police reform in this country is an important issue, and something like this, while a personal tragedy for those that know the officers killed, has the potential to be a worse tragedy for those killed in the future because police reform was pushed to the side.

This is all true, but you have posts in this thread pointing how well the DPD has retrained their officers in recent years to much success. Blanketing them under the entire umbrella of US police is ingerently false.
 

Corto

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I'm a cop. I don't think that's implied. Shame on anyone who does. I feel that Dallas PD and the BLM protest were a scheduled and unified event. The people that did this are monsters and IMO do not represent the event that was supposed to take place.

Agree 100%. The counter productiveness comment for now is just because of the shooters using the event for their actions. In the current climate and until everything is cleared the uncertainty and doubt will feed all rumors.
 
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