Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)

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BokehKing

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I'm taking the.... upset at BLM and his hatred for white people to mean perhaps he thinks BLM is too peaceful and don't do enough to his liking.
 
Maybe if enough people say BLM is over it will come true! And gosh, now its open season on colored folks and BLM will be hated by the public? Neither of those were happening before.

Same if you're a cop. Better yet you don't even have to fuck up, you can follow procedure and still be vilified.

A job is a choice, so no it'a not the same.
 

Futureman

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I think the "upset about BLM" is being misinterpreted. I think the meaning is basically that the sniper was upset that it's come to this in this country and that something like BLM is even necessary. The guy in the standoff said he wanted to kill as many white officers as possible. OR I guess possibly upset that BLM wasn't "going far enough" in their twisted mind.

what is Dallas like today? Lots of businesses staying closed and people staying home?
 

Kreed

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Either way blm is done

Nah. People will still peacefully protest in spite of this, just like all the other times there were BLM protests and cops were shot sitting peacefully in their cars/etc... You are just going to see a lot more heavily armed police, more BlueLivesMatter hashtags, and Fox News' dedicated audience calling BLM a terrorist organization.
 
Ok. I need to know how the robot snuck up on him, and blew up?


Did it flank his ass? How the fuck? Im really interested and hearing the rundown on how they managed to get a robot so close to him without him hearing/seeing it.
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Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
So nothing changes, sounds about right

Basically. Going off what the media is running with now, this feels like two steps back. People are going to say that the conversation itself is the cause of the violence. I expect to hear the word "divisiveness" all day.
 

Brinbe

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Dallas police really not handling all this well in regards to media. First with the tweet with that other POI/suspect, now this. The media takes the lead from them and there's no good direction here.

Anyway, the messaging is pretty clear now. And it doesn't portend well for BLM or anyone seeking justice for those affected by police violence themselves.
 

ColdPizza

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Ok. I need to know how the robot snuck up on him, and blew up?


Did it flank his ass? How the fuck? Im really interested and hearing the rundown on how they managed to get a robot so close to him without him hearing/seeing it.

It didn't need to sneak up on him or flank him if he was cornered.
 
No mention that he was also upset about BLM. Nice going, CNN

In answering a question the Chief said the suspect was "upset for BLM". To be honest, I don't think it's clear what this means exactly.

The police should really released a copy of his exact words if they are going to mention his words at all, or else it just becomes confusing.
 
Well, the issue of blacks being targeted, over policed, and murdered in the streets is now going to be fully dismissed instead of almost fully dismissed. Thanks dumb crazy asshole.
 

Spaced33

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Was this protest planned for a while? This attack seems like something you would need some time to logistically plan out and initiate considering its sophistication.
 

Gattsu25

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At the end of the press conference it was said he expressed anger for BLM, not at BLM.
Here are the direct quotes...at the start of the conference:
The suspect said he was upset about BLM. He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated he wanted to kill white people especially white officers. The suspect stated he will eventually-- that we will eventually find the IEDs.​

At the end of the conference:
He wanted to kill officers. And he expressed killing white people. He expressing killing white officers. He expressed anger for black lives matter​


https://www.periscope.tv/w/1YqGoZANoPQKv
 

LiK

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When did he take over? 10 years ago?

Thats about as long as can has been going south...

once he took over, the live coverage has been so terrible and judging from the comments here, i see it hasn't improved. his desire to focus less on news and more on entertainment is deafening.
 

Woo-Fu

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He said he acted alone? Seems unlikely.

Considering the state of gun control in the US it really isn't that unlikely. There were lots of very angry people at that event, many of whom had access to guns. Anger+fear+guns is a recipe for disaster that is cooked up pretty much daily in the US.
 

Aikidoka

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Why are people so quick to say BLM are done? This not the first time in the U.S. that black Americans have formed peaceful protest groups when others formed more militia type groups.
 

Pepiope

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He said right afterwards that it "didn't make sense".
Probably referring to the act itself. If you want progress for BLM, killing a bunch of officers isn't the right course of action.

I took it as him not believing BLM is doing enough, so he took it to another extreme.

Hopefully it'll all be clarified soon.
 
I hope you realize the irony of your post. You can't get higher than 100% lack of empathy that already existed.

its the talking points man.

i swear, all discussions i have with people, all it is is people yelling canned talking points at eachother with no actual discussion of the issues.

all this does is fuel those people who hate BLM. They already didnt care, but now they get to say ITS A HATE GROUP
 

Moff

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Ok. I need to know how the robot snuck up on him, and blew up?


Did it flank his ass? How the fuck? Im really interested and hearing the rundown on how they managed to get a robot so close to him without him hearing/seeing it.

I imagine it was a small robot coming straight at him
he was probably so confused he didn't to anything

even if he realized what it was, what should he do? shoot it? he was probably trapped down there
 
In answering a question the Chief said the suspect was "upset for BLM". To be honest, I don't think it's clear what this means exactly.

The police should really released a copy of his exact words if they are going to mention his words at all, or else it just becomes confusing.

He took the anger and passion of a peaceful protest movement and hijacked it into his own violent and misplaced quest for justice for black people killed by police. That's all that means, this guy did not represent the peaceful BLM movement in any way.
 
I am confused, so there was only one gunner? Or do we have a group of people + a lone wolf who acted after the fact?

Is this the same dude that we saw kill the cop in the video?
 
Real interesting they hadn't release dude's identity
The tactics used suggest to me ex-military or some kind of militia. Honestly it seems like an anarchist group, separatist group, or other kind of domestic radical group is responsible. As such, they are likely white. White people killing cops doesn't fit any oppression-serving agenda nicely.

That's me being cynical. A less cynical idea is that they are worried about further attacks.
 
Why are people so quick to say BLM are done? This not the first time in the U.S. that black Americans have formed peaceful protest groups when others formed more militia type groups.

And everytime the violence has been used to dismiss peaceful protests intent. Violence only begets more violence

The tactics used suggest to me ex-military or some kind of militia. Honestly it seems like an anarchist group, separatist group, or other kind of domestic radical group is responsible. As such, they are likely white. White people killing cops doesn't fit any oppression-serving agenda nicely.

That's me being cynical. A less cynical idea is that they are worried about further attacks.

Wtf man, why would the black police chief....you know what nvm
 

Hubbl3

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Why are people so quick to say BLM are done? This not the first time in the U.S. that black Americans have formed peaceful protest groups when others formed more militia type groups.

I think when people say BLM is done, they're referring to their credibility / legitimacy. The media will crush their image and if the suspects turn out to be black, they will immediately be tied to BLM regardless of whether or not they had any affiliation.
 

Sayad

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Didn't sound like there was a safe way for the police to approach this guy. I've never heard of this tactic being used before, but then again, I doubt this guy planned on being taken alive at any point.
It's how you deal with situations where the suspect is willing to die and any direct interaction with others could be risky, usually to deal with suicide bombers. Was just used against suicide bombers in Saudi Arabia few days ago.
 
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