Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)

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You act like I don't care about innocent people being executed?

Still no reason for people to cheer for police officers death. Like this is some "we even now for this week" shit.

You agreed with a poster who said he lost sympathy for BLM after he saw a few people stomp and spit on a flag, if you did so in error, then by all means, you should probably correct yourself.
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
Can someone explain

1. They posted a pic of Mark Hughes as a "Suspect" POI.
2. But they will not post pics of the so-called "Suspect" perpetrators of the crime?

The police did not have the whereabouts of Hughes, and were told by bystanders that he was the shooter (they jumped to conclusions because he stood out, walking around with an open carry rifle).

The shooter they don't have to look for.
 
"The flag means more to me. It represents our ideals and rights. Except, you know, that one that gives us the right to burn it. I don't mean that right."
 

Raylan

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Well, it is, regardless of how you feel about it.

It's also not as important as our constitutional rights. Limiting free expression because of the flag is just stupid, sorry.
Well, if this is your opinion, so be it. In my opinion, if you stomp and spit on a flag you are stupid as hell and prove nothing at all. If you wanna prove a point, be smart, not an asshole.
 

Geg

Member
Can someone explain

1. They posted a pic of Mark Hughes as a "Suspect" POI.
2. But they will not post pics of the so-called "Suspect" perpetrators of the crime?
I assume because the police were looking for more info on Hughes and reaching out to the local community. They don't need any info on the suspects they arrested/killed
 

BokehKing

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Not to go OT, but you do realize Texas flys their state flag higher than the Stars and Stripes.

People use it to protest because of it symbolism and because of our awesome first amendment rights. Get over it.
We can discuss further in PM's if you wish to continue with that "get over it" attitude that doesn't belong in this thread.

I think it's good that the Texas police will not opt for militarization of its forces, they are dedicated to the stance and progress they have made with their communities
 
nothing stops a bad guy with a gun like a..bomb carrying robot.

What did i wake up to.

I'm so sick and tired of of it all. Senseless killing everywhere.
 
Well, it is, regardless of how you feel about it.

It's also not as important as our constitutional rights. Limiting free expression because of the flag is just stupid, sorry.


Amen. Our rights are what matters, not some warped nationalism people have in flags.

Things start to become very dark when too many people put symbols and icons above humans.
 

Gattsu25

Banned
Can someone explain

1. They posted a pic of Mark Hughes as a "Suspect" POI.
2. But they will not post pics of the so-called "Suspect" perpetrators of the crime?
Here's what I wrote earlier on that:
Yeah. He wasn't involved.

4chan floated his image. Reddit ran with it. Police subsequently got flooded with "witness accounts" that he was firing his rifle during the shooting.

In reality, the gun was not loaded and he handed it to police, which was captured on video.​
 

Geg

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So is it confirmed that it was a lone shooter?

They were "lone" in that they weren't affiliated with any group, but there are apparently 4 people suspected to be involved with coordinating the shooting or with the shooting itself
 

Arkeband

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The flag talk is a derail, but the people valuing it over human life need to sit through this WKUK sketch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BfqDUPL1I

Take a step back from the nationalistic rhetoric. Flag disrespect symbolizes the nation not caring for its citizens. If they're not treated as part of the whole, why should they respect the flag? The unity it represents is a lie.
 

Cth

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Flags mean different things to different people.

Technically, the Confederate flag is just another flag/piece of cloth too. For some it's a symbol of hate, for others it means more. Telling either one of those groups that the flag is just a piece of cloth and people should deal with it would justifiably anger both groups.

But yeah, this kind of talk is for another thread.
 

BokehKing

Banned
How many suspects in total? I feel like last night the news traveled so fast and so chaotic that a lot of facts got blurred with panic.
 
Somebody just murdered a bunch of police officers and then they executed him with a robot, and this guy want to take a stand against flag burning :/

Safest way to deal with the situation, sadly. He claimed to have a bomb. Had the police tried to rush him they would have died as well.

The SOP for a possible bomb is to remote detonate it with a robot. They lose the robot, but no one else dies. The guy got caught in the explosion.
 

Ray Wonder

Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
It's not about the actual physical cloth fabric that is the flag, it's about the message being sent by burning it. They're not doing it just because it's a flag. They're doing it because it represents the USA, or they would've burned something else.


Also, idgaf that they did. I just see where dude is coming from. Saying it's just a flag is disingenuous. Clearly they did it for a reason.
 

Raylan

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Flags mean different things to different people.

Technically, the Confederate flag is just another flag/piece of cloth too. For some it's a symbol of hate, for others it means more. Telling either one of those groups that the flag is just a piece of cloth and people should deal with it would justifiably anger both groups.

But yeah, this kind of talk is for another thread.

Yep, I guess derailing this thread any further doesn't make much sense. The story here is already sad enough.
 
Is there going to be an official Dallas Police press conference, detailing the situation today?

There seems to be very little details trickling out.
 

Mahonay

Banned
Naw. That's MSNBC
CNN, FOX News...etc, they are all pretty trash. They rely almost entirely on sensationalism to pull in ratings, reporting the straight forward news is entirely secondary. When anything like this happens I don't watch any of the biggest news channels, they just end up making me furious when it becomes a sideshow to pull in viewers.
 
Don't count on it. I imagine this will cause more towns and states to make laws against BLM.

How are you going to criminalize the idea of black people being treated as equal citizens? It is the idea that is bringing people together, not the name.
 
The police loaded a bomb defusing robot with a bomb, had it approach the killer, and then detonated the bomb blowing him up.


Why the hell did they do that? Why not just bring the guy in cleanly? They could have used the same robot to stun him instead of killing him.
 
Safest way to deal with the situation, sadly. He claimed to have a bomb. Had the police tried to rush him they would have died as well.

The SOP for a possible bomb is to remote detonate it with a robot. They lose the robot, but no one else dies. The guy got caught in the explosion.


Is that even a legal way for the police to kill someone?
 

Gattsu25

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Why the hell did they do that? Why not just bring the guy in cleanly. They could have used the same robot to stun him...

I'm guessing those robots are not that fast or mobile.


Also, they negotiated with that guy for over an hour. The entire time he was shooting at them.
 

Ray Wonder

Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
Why the hell did they do that? Why not just bring the guy in cleanly? They could have used the same robot to stun him instead of killing him.

Because he killed cops, and that's the safest way to stop the standoff.

Killing him without person to person interaction.
 
I'm guessing those robots are not that fast or mobile.


Also, they negotiated with that guy for over an hour. The entire time he was shooting at them.

There really wasn't much else in the way of recourse. He was ready and willing to kill any officer that tried to come over and talk him down.
 
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