Business Insider: Nintendo's stock rose 33% since Friday. It's highest since 1983.

Brad Grenz said:
Wow, it's almost like Nintendo finally released a game as a third party and were immediately greeted with enormous success and a huge jump in their stock price. Can't imagine why people would see a connection to people wanting Nintendo games on non-Nintendo hardware. If I were Nintendo I'd cancel the NX, port Breath of the Wild to PS4/Xbox One/PC and sell 30M copies of Zelda instead of just 5M.



You should be aware that top mobile games make that much money every month for years at a time.
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Epic mobile success should scare traditional Nintendo fans.

We will see if go has legs. I still think people are too lazy to commit to this game long term, but hey I've been wrong before.
 
Reuters

Shares of Japan's Nintendo Co soared more than 20 percent after Friday's surge, adding $7.5 billion to its market value in just two days, on hopes that strong sales of its new Pokemon GO videogame for smartphones will boost earnings.
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QaaQer said:
I wonder what the internal politics @ Niantic is like and who is calling the gamedesign shots.
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Seems like the game conceptually borrows heavily from Ingress so I imagine Niantic is doing most of the design. Ironically, they're the one not getting enough credit for all this. Pokemon Go is a very high concept game and they seemed to nail it.
 
Somnid said:
Seems like the game conceptually borrows heavily from Ingress so I imagine Niantic is doing most of the design. Ironically, they're the one not getting enough credit for all this. Pokemon Go is a very high concept game and they seemed to nail it.
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Yeah, Niantic deserves a good share. All the data from cities that they collected with Ingress helped a lot with this game.
 
ekurisona said:
Reuters - Shares of Japan's Nintendo Co soared more than 20 percent after Friday's surge, adding $7.5 billion to its market value in just two days, on hopes that strong sales of its new Pokemon GO videogame for smartphones will boost earnings.
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Smart investors sell stocks that move up based on hope. This is a clear sell the news.

Again, 1 games, not actually developed by Nintendo, that they only get a share of the revenue of, isn't a sign. It is certainly good to see for them, but people should bnot be making any long term determination here or proclaiming anything really.
 
tebunker said:
Smart investors sell stocks that move up based on hope. This is a clear sell the news.

Again, 1 games, not actually developed by Nintendo, that they only get a share of the revenue of, isn't a sign. It is certainly good to see for them, but people should bnot be making any long term determination here or proclaiming anything really.
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I would sell if I were Nintendo.
 
AniHawk said:
dedicated hardware is an old decaying business for everyone, true. when i think of non-dedicated nintendo, i start thinking of nintendo on pc with their own store/digital platform like steam.
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Yep. And those type of platforms are just a stopgap until Internet capacity and availability is at the point to allow all gaming to be app centered with all processing done in the cloud. Think PS Now with no lag and current top graphics.
 
Everything read says the game is crap.

Everything I read say it's a huge success.

Than I realize most mobile games that are a huge success are crap.

So I'm guessing Nintendo is going to go where the ez money is.
 
tebunker said:
Smart investors sell stocks that move up based on hope. This is a clear sell the news.

Again, 1 games, not actually developed by Nintendo, that they only get a share of the revenue of, isn't a sign. It is certainly good to see for them, but people should bnot be making any long term determination here or proclaiming anything really.
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Nintendo is always involved from a production end on all Pokemon titles. Then they also bought an investment stake into Niantic, and already have one with TPC. Then there is that additional Pokemon Go Plus peripheral that Nintendo is internally developing.

So your detachment of Nintendo from this product is inaccurate.
 
Haines said:
Everything read says the game is crap.

Everything I read say it's a huge success.

Than I realize most mobile games that are a huge success are crap.

So I'm guessing Nintendo is going to go where the ez money is.
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EZ Money sez huge success, yo.

Word.
 
adamy said:
Pokemon go is easily one of the best Nintendo related games ever made
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tebunker said:
Smart investors sell stocks that move up based on hope. This is a clear sell the news.

Again, 1 games, not actually developed by Nintendo, that they only get a share of the revenue of, isn't a sign. It is certainly good to see for them, but people should bnot be making any long term determination here or proclaiming anything really.
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They hired Niantic to make this game for them, they will be getting most of the profits off this game. Nintendo also owns a large portion of Niantic, making it even more profitable for them.
 
AntMurda said:
Nintendo is always involved from a production end on all Pokemon titles. Then they also bought an investment stake into Niantic, and already have one with TPC. Then there is that additional Pokemon Go Plus peripheral that Nintendo is internally developing.

So your detachment of Nintendo from this product is inaccurate.
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Hmm, maybe I wasn't clear, but I have posted a lot in the thread and you may have missed it. I was speaking more directly to the success of Go being fully attributed to Nintendo. My detachment association was more with how this proves anything. Because it doesnt. Also, My other points are that Nintendos profita aren't going to be as affected by this as much as people think. Not enought to warrant 20% jumps in stock price.

Finally the game is Niantic's Ingress with Pokemon trappings at its basic level. Which is fine. They should get more credit.


I want to state clearly I have full understanding of how much Nintendo owns Pokemon and the games and property, but I am taking a mkre cautious approach to the news.
 
tebunker said:
Wasn't the first a match three type game? With a lot of gatcha garbage?


Also, just thinking out loud here, but think for a second if Nintendo is able to convert just 1%-5% of these users to incremental 3ds/2ds and Sun/Moon buyers, that game would potentially be the biggest selling traditional pokemon game. So that's completely new players to the current traditional pokemon.

At the rate of adoption there would be huge bump to the user base. So I think this is what Nintendo is intending with their mobile plans. Try to reach 100miion plus people and convert 1-5% incrementally to traditonal business.

Granted that all changes when mobile revenue outstrips traditonal revenues 2:1 or better.
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Nintendo could advertise sun and moon on go, though i'm pretty sure most people playing have the whole "everything past gen1-2 is garbage" mentality so i don't think it'd help that much on it's sale numbers tbh.
 
tebunker said:
Smart investors sell stocks that move up based on hope. This is a clear sell the news.

Again, 1 games, not actually developed by Nintendo, that they only get a share of the revenue of, isn't a sign. It is certainly good to see for them, but people should bnot be making any long term determination here or proclaiming anything really.
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trying to win via day-to-day stock market moves is a mug's game unless you have serious resources at your disposal.

I think it is a fair price for what Nintendo is and the potential it has in the future.
 
NHarmonic. said:
Nintendo could advertise sun and moon on go, though i'm pretty sure most people playing have the whole "everything past gen1-2 is garbage" mentality so i don't think it'd help that much on it's sale numbers tbh.
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They've been going after that crowd pretty well, especially with Pokemon Bank support for R/B/G/Y that works with just S/M.
 
tebunker said:
Hmm, maybe I wasn't clear, but I have posted a lot in the thread and you may have missed it. I was speaking more directly to the success of Go being fully attributed to Nintendo. My detachment association was more with how this proves anything. Because it doesnt. Also, My other points are that Nintendos profita aren't going to be as affected by this as much as people think. Not enought to warrant 20% jumps in stock price.

Finally the game is Niantic's Ingress with Pokemon trappings at its basic level. Which is fine. They should get more credit.


I want to state clearly I have full understanding of how much Nintendo owns Pokemon and the games and property, but I am taking a mkre cautious approach to the news.
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To be honest, I see more people doing the opposite, as in downplaying how much this will positively affect Nintendo.
 
Bam Bam Baklava said:
People are fooling themselves if they think this thing has legs. It's this year's Angry Birds.
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Angry birds remained fairly popular for multiple years and generated a ton of revenue in merch, licensing, etc. It was a fairly long-lived "fad" that petered out because they couldn't come up with a convincing follow-up. Actually doing that is not unheard of, as evidenced by people like King who have successfully iterated on a mobile hit.
 
Bam Bam Baklava said:
People are fooling themselves if they think this thing has legs. It's this year's Angry Birds.
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I mean, Angry Birds just had a movie that was relatively successful.

And Pokemon is a 20 year old franchise. Even if the mainstream hype dies down, the hardcore base is there to stay.

If you wanted a better comparison of a fleeting success it would be Flappy Bird.
 
lwilliams3 said:
To be honest, I see more people doing the opposite, as in downplaying how much this will positively affect Nintendo.
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Odds are there is probably a good mix. Clearly the stock jump means a lot of poeple and money think it make a big difference. I was replying mainly to that reuters link that was posted because you have to take most day to day stock news with a grain of salt. You have to digest it and see how it helps the overall picture.

The 20% jump to me seems like an overreaction to people not wanting to miss out on the next big thing. I personally feel we need to see more longevity or see if AC or FE have actual success.

I honestly still think AC is going to be the Nintendo mobile game that has legs and true appeal across a bigger range of the market.
 
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