Why is everyone anti Bruce x Barbara? (Batman)

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Yeah later DCAU Batman feels noticeably colder and more detached than early TAS Batman. But that's a minor complaint I have with Timm's Batman, at most. The "trying to make Bruce x Barbara happen" stuff is a major issue I have.
Both were major issues for me.
 

MartyStu

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Infamy. This is that start of something...dark.

This will probably piss people off enough that DC comics will follow through in one of the books just to milk the sales.

I look forward to this.
 
"IT WAS JUST SEX FOR GOD'S SAKE!" is gonna be my favorite line of dialog all year, especially Tara Strong trying her hardest to make it not ridiculous
 

massoluk

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Bruce Timm joined the list of "People that gave you childhood, and now stomped it to the ground" along with George Lucas.
 

jackdoe

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Heh. Sounds like Bruce Timm straight up adapted the infamous New 52 Catwoman scene (replacing Selina for Barbara), even though there was a huge shit storm from practically everyone about it. I don't understand how he thought it was a good idea. At all.
 

Supast4r

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Because in the end she will end up with Dick Grayson since it's been projected in many future comics. Bruce is destined to be with Catwomen. I find it creepy because she is really young. Is she still a cripple?
 
Bruce Timm has always been a hack. It's just 90s kids that constantly kissed his ass. It's the same people that keep clamoring for Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill over and over and over ad naseum. Maybe now they'll realize that he isn't someone to idolize.
 

Foggy

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Because in the end she will end up with Dick Grayson since it's been projected in many future comics. Bruce is destined to be with Catwomen. I find it creepy because she is really young. Is she still a cripple?

Batman's like a weird inverse of Matthew McConaughey in Dazed and Confused. They get older and he stays the same age.
 

Ophelion

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Bruce Timm has always been a hack. It's just 90s kids that constantly kissed his ass. It's the same people that keep clamoring for Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill over and over and over ad naseum. Maybe now they'll realize that he isn't someone to idolize.

Going too far. I've always been critical about this character relationship, but by and large the Batman TAS universe was an exceptional creative work. Bruce Timm did not write most of that, it maybe should be pointed out. His art direction has always been on point though. I'm fully sure this movie will look outstanding even if it is tainted by Timm's insistence on pairing Bruce and Barbra.
 

guek

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Blah. Batgirl is weird in that she's a surrogate daughter at best.

I think the question people should ask themselves is would it be weird if Bruce and Dick had sex provided they were gay? I'd imagine most people would say yes because of their relationship. But what if Bruce had adopted Barbara instead and Dick had been the Gordon's son and Bruce slept with him in that circumstance. Does that change anything? I've met couples with men in their late forties and girls in their early twenties and thought nothing of it beyond noticing. Who am I to judge? But the whole dynamic between Gordon being a longtime ally and Barbara's history with Dick, it's a little unsettling. I'd be pissed if I were either Gordon or Dick.
 

MartyStu

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The one thing I think most of us forget here is that Barbera is not some victim in all this. If we are assigning blame to characters, why is she absolved of pretty much all of it?

The pairing is weird. And it is weird that Timm keeps on pushing it, but it is not really that creepy: she in her early twenties and he in his late thirties.
 

Trickster

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As someone who isn't really very knowledgeable about all this. How is this bruce timm guy allowed to add this sex story, which apparently is extremely disliked by fans, into a seperate story that doesn't have the sex part originally?

Seems really weird to me that dc would sign off on this unless they're completely tone deaf
 
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