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The International 2016 (Aug 3rd - 13th)

The comments in the group B thread on /r/dota2 are absolutely atrocious, that sub is painful to read. I don't know if it's mostly trolls or what.

Secret have had a terrible day, almost definitely going to be LB unless they manage to win 4 of their remaining 5 games which is extremely unlikely. From 3-0 to 3-6 currently. Pretty crazy.
 
Secret trying to earn that $322 for 16th place

edit: wow, never thought Secret would be 0-6 today, getting 0-2'd by DC...................
 
Venge aura + valds = 51% damage increase on base damage. So, >+150dmg for morph. Then BM aura and summons... If they ever get to push buildings as a team they'll raze the entire base in a minute.
 
Lategame morph with a pocket venge is one scary mofo.

EE's item progression didn't do him any favors, though. No daedelus, no mkb, no maelstrom....
 
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Man, hoping today was a wakeup call for Secret. Newbee and Liquid are both on 5 points so if Secret sweeps tomorrow they have a chance.

But if they play like they did today they should just go home now.
 
Secret is so toxic right now. You can tell by the disjointed, hesitant fights, the awful drafts, the post game defeats where the camera capture them staring into the abyss. No one on that team likes each other and it shows.
 
Secret is so toxic right now. You can tell by the disjointed, hesitant fights. The awful drafts. The post game defeats where the camera capture them staring into the abyss. No one on that team likes each other and it shows.

Compare it to when you saw Secrety with Misery and w33. I will be shocked if this current lineup stays--I see RTZ getting the boot.
 
This is basically every post about EE in the history of DOTA.

I love EE because of this.

He consistently plays Dota like an impatient child. He has all the "physical" talent and game knowledge in the world. But it always translates into disaster.

When his crazy shit works he's the best
When his crazy shit fails, the whole team gets toxic
 
Compare it to when you saw Secrety with Misery and w33. I will be shocked if this current lineup stays--I see RTZ getting the boot.

EE and Arteezy are both gone in some form or fashion unless they finish top 8 by some miracle. Their lineup might have worked in years past just by brute skill, but the skill gap is so small these days, chemistry and synergy and trustung your teammates are too important. Secret doesnt have any of that right now.
 
So many people trying to rationalize Secret's losses. They're just dumpsters, friends. Everyone who has ever worn the Secret brand was, is, and will forever be a dumpster, with the exception of Universe who was clearly a PPD plant to help sew the seeds of discord early and keep them off balance.

What a time to be alive, honestly. I thought I didn't care about Dota anymore even, but Secret has proved me wrong. I care so much and I'm going to love watching them go home with their tail between their legs yet again.
 
Well they will probably beat Escape and maybe TNC so at least Secret won't go out immediately...

TNC is playing very well, and probably will finish better than Secret. TNC is kind of the opposite, they have amazing teamwork (surprising considering Jimmy is basically a stand-in) and decent mechanical skill, but because they trust one another fights that they would lose if they were disjointed they end up winning. TNC did 2-0 LGD and Wings, which is no small feat, and even their losses we pretty close games except . Secret on the other hand has lost to badly in most of their games except the first series, and is getting straight up dumpstered more often than not.
 
So many people trying to rationalize Secret's losses. They're just dumpsters, friends. Everyone who has ever worn the Secret brand was, is, and will forever be a dumpster, with the exception of Universe who was clearly a PPD plant to help sew the seeds of discord early and keep them off balance.
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S4 i'm crying :(
 
FATA is the world's best or second best mid player. He truly was the best player on C9. Cannot believe nobody on that team other than him went on to have a good career.
 
FATA is the world's best or second best mid player. He truly was the best player on C9. Cannot believe nobody on that team other than him went on to have a good career.

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are we pretending Aui didn't win a TI?
or Notail didn't win 2 majors?
or even that PLD and Misery didn't win one major each? Fuck, even envy won a damn major.

yeah, Fata was clearly the only one to manage to get out of the abyss that was C9...

And btw, Fata is a consistent 7/10. Nothing too spectacular and nothing that clearly hinders his team, just a consistent average-to-good player.
 
I live a block away from Key Arena, been fun watching the scaffolding and banners going up today whenever I took the dog out. I'm way out of touch with Dota right now but I've been to every International since it started happening at Key Arena. It's always a cool and interesting thing.
 
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are we pretending Aui didn't win a TI?
or Notail didn't win 2 majors?
or even that PLD and Misery didn't win one major each? Fuck, even envy won a damn major.

yeah, Fata was clearly the only one to manage to get out of the abyss that was C9...

I am clearly talking about the last 5 remaining players who ended up disbanding the team. No need to be a condescending shit about it.
 
w33-Misery redemption tour complete.

Was it ever explained why they got kicked? Because from a casual spectator point of view it seemed a monumentally stupid thing to do. Like, what are you hoping to achieve with it? Chances that you're gonna improve your team performance over the team that just won you a major is has to be absolutely miniscule.
 
I am clearly talking about the last 5 remaining players who ended up disbanding the team. No need to be a condescending shit about it.

I mean even if you're talking about TI5 era C9, Fata is still behind Envy, Misery, NoTail in terms of actual results since then. They've all won a Major, NoTail has 2 wins.

Is the ArtEEzy dream dead?
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I want to believe...
 
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