No Man's Sky - Early Impressions/Reviews-in-progress Thread

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IvanJ

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Did you know that 99.8% of filthy poors have a refrigerator?

Damn those poor. They should only eat food fit to survive on room temperature. What's next? Cold beer?

I had a few friends who deployed to Iraq/Afghaniston/Navy and they did hate patches and shit with a passion. We used to physically mail then USB disks with patches (PC).

A few, sure. It is understandable. But topics like these always try to preyend they are a huge part of the population.
 

Portugeezer

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8.0 is good, not gonna bother reading review though.

Game GAF doesn't hype, the version they get is the one they should review.
Game GAF does hype, got to wait for the 1 day patch before reviewing it!

Are you sure you are talking about day one patches? I don't think you are.
 
1 review. 10 pages in this thread already.

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Ah yiss....matha faka no man's sky thread
 

StereoVsn

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yet you still make the argument that the unpatched game on disc is not in a "decent state" cool
What's Decent state is debatable especially as concerning trying to play this 10 years down the road with servers being long offline and patches not available.
 

watership

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I doubt we'll know much about the game to get a complete review, even a week later. I am interested to see how the PC version compares to PS4.
 

MetatronM

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Yes, I know there’s a day-one patch on the way. What I care about is reviewing what people will have straight out of the box on the day they get their copy, the game that was handed over the counter to them when they parted with their cash in good faith. If the update drastically changes the experience of the game, so much so that’s it’s unrecognisable from what’s originally on the disc, then there’s something fundamentally wrong with the way games are being made; I wouldn’t pay for Chocolate Rice Crispies, receive plain Rice Crispies and then be told to wait while Kelloggs gets the chocolate flavouring together. Silly analogy, but it’s the same principle.
Except it's not the same principle. Customers aren't being told to wait. The patch is releasing a day before the game actually releases (officially). It would be more like if a guy from Kelloggs was standing at the door of the supermarket and handed you the chocolate flavoring as you walked out. Sure, you might miss him for some reason, but the vast majority of people who bought his product will be getting the whole package. Even that's a stupid analogy, but it's at least closer to the situation here.

It is worth noting the difference for those people who won't have access to the patch for whatever reason because there is a sizable difference between the patched and unpatched version, and people should know that, but that's almost certainly going to be a pretty small percentage of the people who are actually interested in and likely to buy No Man's Sky. Targeting your review to a small minority of potential customers seems much more about making a point and hunting for clicks than it does about actually providing a valuable service for the customer.
 
What's Decent state is debatable especially as concerning trying to play this 10 years down the road with servers being long offline and patches not available.

How often do you picture someone playing this game on a machine not connected to the internet? Much less for 10 fucking years.

This is a ridiculous hypothetical.

The game is playable and good, right now. It doesn't magically become worse over time because you're refusing to update it. It does, however, become better over time through patching, something we've been doing to games for what, 20-25 years? with relative frequency.
 

xxracerxx

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What's Decent state is debatable especially as concerning trying to play this 10 years down the road with servers being long offline and patches not available.

So your definition of decent is more than a playable game with the core mechanics in place?
 

Gator86

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You can go into the huge NMS thread and see for yourself. Hell, you can see this thread for yourself.

The only meltdowns are people acting like a Day 1 patch is a new invention.

Even you are trying to spin, spin, spin away, lol.

I literally just said I have no problem with day 1 patches.

I'm completely fine with day 1 patches. I'm not fine with games still being unfinished, buggy, broken messed after that date. I appreciate the plight of people with limited Internet access, but the market has shifted so much it's unrealistic to consider pubs making then a priority for this.

I'm apathetic to the day 1 discussion posts, but, like I said in another post, it's a review thread so people came to argue and move goalposts concerning the game's quality. Day 1 patch arguments let people do that.
 
Since this game is going to evolve over time and constantly be changing, you will be waiting forever for your "GOTY edition".
 

danthefan

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What's Decent state is debatable especially as concerning trying to play this 10 years down the road with servers being long offline and patches not available.

It sounds like you have an issue with the entire concept of digital gaming.

We can play games that are over 20 years old on current consoles. The idea this will not be playable in 10 years really is based on nothing at all.
 

StereoVsn

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Damn those poor. They should only eat food fit to survive on room temperature. What's next? Cold beer?

A few, sure. It is understandable. But topics like these always try to preyend they are a huge part of the population.
Armed forces, contractors and such are into millions. It is a decent amount of people. That said how many of them are without Internet and game I do not know.
 

StereoVsn

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It sounds like you have an issue with the entire concept of digital gaming.

We can play games that are over 20 years old on current consoles. The idea this will not be playable in 10 years really is based on nothing at all.
Absolutely not. I have thousands of digital games between PSN, Steam and GoG. I question major changes for a Day 1 patch with a retail disk product.
Edit: we can play older games because they are SP and don't depend on a server "in the sky". Situation changes when you have required day 1 patches, online check-ins and uncrackable DRM.
 

DeepEnigma

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Since this game is going to evolve over time and constantly be changing, you will be waiting forever for your "GOTY edition".

I am waiting for the GOTLY Edition. ;)

Armed forces, contractors and such are into millions. It is a decent amount of people. That said how many of them are without Internet and game I do not know.

I was a defense contractor, and worked along side the Marines 40km out of Fallujah... trust me... the gamers are not in the 'millions' over there, lol. Hell, they mostly played sports games and CoD, none of us were waiting on 'niche' titles.

Goodness. Look at what you did Sean Murray. You made the gaming world go crazy.

But what do you do in the day 1 patch?

You complain about it. ;)
 

danthefan

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Absolutely not. I have thousands of digital games between PSN, Steam and GoG. I question major changes for a Day 1 patch with a retail disk product.
Edit: we can play older games because they are SP and don't depend on a server "in the sky". Situation changes when you have required day 1 patches, online check-ins and uncrackable DRM.

So... There should be a limit to how much you patch a game if it gets a disk release?

You can play NMS offline you know?
 
And why not? It's an interesting subject, and an interesting game.

Not sure I fully understand people's fondness for drive by comments like that.

I agree. Those comments are annoying and pointless. It is a compelling and legitamate discussion to have considering it's about a somewhat unique circumstance involving a pre launch patch that is much more significant than most for a game with a psyical release.
 

StereoVsn

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But what do you do in the day 1 patch?
I heard that you have to find the Heart of Trump Space! ;)

I do find the argument here interesting even though most people are not considering that servers may be offline in a few years and you can't exactly download patches for consoles separately.
 

OmegaDL50

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It's actually very likely that you can connect your PS4 to the internet with your cell phone.

Yep, Tethering is a thing that exists. Although it will count towards use your monthly data cap.

Although one would wonder considering the cost of cellphone services, unless you are using one of those pay by the minutes limited phones, but then at that point you wouldn't be using your phone for internet browsing anyways.
 

xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
Absolutely not. I have thousands of digital games between PSN, Steam and GoG. I question major changes for a Day 1 patch with a retail disk product.
Edit: we can play older games because they are SP and don't depend on a server "in the sky". Situation changes when you have required day 1 patches, online check-ins and uncrackable DRM.

No Man's Sky is completely playable offline.
 

5taquitos

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I heard that you have to find the Heart of Trump Space! ;)

I do find the argument here interesting even though most people are not considering that servers may be offline in a few years and you can't exactly download patches for consoles separately.

You've gone from "10 years" to "a few years" now.
 

icespide

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I heard that you have to find the Heart of Trump Space! ;)

I do find the argument here interesting even though most people are not considering that servers may be offline in a few years and you can't exactly download patches for consoles separately.
your physical games will deteriorate from disc rot before servers go offline for downloading games
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
Personally, I think it's fair to review the game straight out of the box, because that's currently what the game is.

However, it feels like a colossal waste of time with a patch literally being deployed day of release (technically before, since I believe the patch is going live Monday evening, before the digital version unlocks at 9PM PST). Personally, I plan on waiting a few days anyway before I write my review. I'd like to be able to sink a good weekend into it at the least, before I collect my thoughts, but I'd rather do it after the patch, so I know I'm evaluating the latest version of the game.
 

StereoVsn

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your physical games will deteriorate from disc rot before servers go offline for downloading games
Blu-Rays are good for 50 years I think. Even newer DVDs will last a long while. Early CDs/DVDs were the ones mostly affected.

QUOTE=5taquitos;212768454]You've gone from "10 years" to "a few years" now.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, 10 years seems to be a good target. Maybe 15 years.

Also, especially since NMS is playable offline then it's a shame that some of the larger features listed in 1.03 didn't make the cut for a physical disk. B
 
Also, especially since NMS is playable offline then it's a shame that some of the larger features listed in 1.03 didn't make the cut for a physical disk. B
It does kinda suck..But neither will the frequent updates and features added to the game over its lifetime.
 
Is it? Since GoG changed their tos I was expecting denuvo to be used.

Wait what? What changes to ToS? When I browse to GOG I still see them advertising their site as DRM free, and Denuvo themselves have said that their "anti tamper" system is redudant without existing DRM.
 

eot

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This is ridiculous. Sean Murray even requested not to review without the patch. The day 1 patch.

The reviewer's job isn't to protect Sean Murray's interests. They signed off on printing this version on disks. Implying that it's not ready to be reviewed only makes them look worse.
 

Social

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Is nobody pissed that they are still pulling this day 1 patch BS? After such a long dev time with delays... we shouldn't stand for it.
 
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