Monmouth, A+ Rated Pollster on 538 - Hillary 50% Trump 37%

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I just volunteered for Hillary yesterday with phonebanking and will continue to do so. I want Trump to lose in a historic landslide and want the Dems to take back the senate and hopefully the house.
 
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I know it likely won't but imagine if that all stayed blue.
 
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I know it likely won't but Imagine if that all stayed blue.

Well, that's the nowcast, as in if it was held today. The polls only is in the 80's.

Also, again, it looks like her bounce is holding, but it's important to not look at individual outlier polls. But the aggregate seems to show Clinton with a 6-7 point lead, which is great!
 
Well, that's the nowcast, as in if it was held today. The polls only is in the 80's.

Also, again, it looks like her bounce is holding, but it's important to not look at individual outlier polls. But the aggregate seems to show Clinton with a 6-7 point lead, which is great!

Yeah that's basically a trouncing.

The thing is- Those numbers aren't narrowing, they're widening.

Barring some major gaffe, he should get obliterated in November.
 
Yeah that's basically a trouncing.

The thing is- Those numbers aren't narrowing, they're widening.

Barring some major gaffe, he should get obliterated in November.

Hard to predict when or where the polls will go. It depends on a lot of factors. But every day that Clinton leads by as much as she does is a day that Trump gets less likely to become the president. As long as there's nothing big that happens, I expect that number to steadily rise, if not only because her polls stay consistent, but it gets closer to the 8th.

I only think her poll numbers will take one hit again, and that's with the release of the state department report. Hopefully that happens a while before November, cause that kind of stuff is easily forgotten.
 
Yeah that's basically a trouncing.

The thing is- Those numbers aren't narrowing, they're widening.

Barring some major gaffe, he should get obliterated in November.

Yeah, conventional wisdom would say this should tighten, but this feels like it's hit some tipping point where Trump's low numbers give more and more people permission to not support him, or at least convince them not to back a clear loser. And this is all before Hillary starts blitzing some of those newly light red states with her Republicans for Hillary ads.
 
i work for the pollster who does all the polling for monmouth university - always cool to see our work in the news!

i can 100% say the hillary bump is real, and started around last monday, and seems to be independent of the DNC convention


Trumps abberant behavior has helped frame her as a solid and mature candidate.
 
Yeah, conventional wisdom would say this should tighten, but this feels like it's hit some tipping point where Trump's low numbers give more and more people permission to not support him, or at least convince them not to back a clear loser. And this is all before Hillary starts blitzing some of those newly light red states with her Republicans for Hillary ads.

Someone brought this up on twitter that there could be a bit of a feedback loop. The lower Trump's numbers go, the more Republicans who feel okay staying home and not voting for him, or voting 3rd party or Hillary. I don't know if I believe that, but it feels as if we may have hit an inflection point within the campaign.
 
Thats still tens of millions of volatile, emotional, dense to reality, nutjobs completely armed to the teeth that are in the belief that their country is being stolen from them.
 
Imagine if 40% of the electorate wouldn't choose to vote for an outward racist, bigot, and misogynist.
 
Thats still tens of millions of volatile, emotional, dense to reality, nutjobs completely armed to the teeth that are in the belief that their country is being stolen from them.

I really wonder what the GOP is gonna do for 2020. The people that propped up Trump aren't just going to come to their senses. From their perspective the moderates had their chance with McCain and Romney and dropped the ball.

I think their best option is to limit the field to only one or two "electable" candidates. That said, it must be disheartening that Trump and Cruz comprised like 70% of all the primary votes. I'm not sure limiting the field would be enough.
 
Imagine if anyone that hasn't had their name dragged through the mud for a quarter of a century by the GOP was running against him.

Imagine if someone with a personality more inspiring than that of a soggy blanket was running against him. It took half way through her convention speech to actually turn into a human being and emote.


Hopefully Trump doesn't implode too far from the election in case the GOP can find some way to keep the ship somewhat afloat.
 
I really wonder what the GOP is gonna do for 2020. The people that propped up Trump aren't just going to come to their senses. From their perspective the moderates had their chance with McCain and Romney and dropped the ball.

I think their best option is to limit the field to only one or two "electable" candidates. That said, it must be disheartening that Trump and Cruz comprised like 70% of all the primary votes. I'm not sure limiting the field would be enough.

What's scary for establishment GOPers is that if Hillary wins the presidency, the Democrats take the Senate, but Republicans hold the House with a slim margin, Ryan is going to have to deal with the Freedom Caucus that is going to be out for blood and could potential turn Ryan into an enemy of the base.

It's quite possible that Cruz could beat a wounded field in 2020, in which case Hillary Clinton is the luckiest person on planet Earth.
 
Seems more like continued growth of the PoC electorate + Trump's general alienation of college whites that's finally pushed it

(Plus Obama barely lost it in 08)
 
I really wonder what the GOP is gonna do for 2020. The people that propped up Trump aren't just going to come to their senses. From their perspective the moderates had their chance with McCain and Romney and dropped the ball.

I think their best option is to limit the field to only one or two "electable" candidates. That said, it must be disheartening that Trump and Cruz comprised like 70% of all the primary votes. I'm not sure limiting the field would be enough.

Oh hey, looks like I found a leaked script for the Republican primary of 2020 right here:

ESTABLISHMENT: Alright everyone. Trump was a disaster. Time to nominate a real, serious conservative. Paul Ryan, come on down!

RYAN: Thank you, thank you. I'm so pleased to be the Republi— what is that? Is that— is that Ted Cruz' music?

CRUZ: I am the only true conservative in the world and I didn't endorse the loser Trump and somehow manage to lose the House of Republicans unlike someone here.

RYAN: That may be true, but I have the insurmountable advantage of not being Ted Cruz!

KASICH: Hi, everyone! I didn't endorse Trump AND I'm not Ted Cruz!

CRUZ: But you're a RINO!

SOME OTHER LOSER: I didn't endorse Trump, I'm not Ted Cruz, AND I'm not a RINO like John Kasich!

RYAN: Who the fuck are you!?

SOME FUCKWAD: Actually, Trump was right about everything and only lost because everyone else in this room are a bunch of traitors who stabbed him in the back! Fuck political correctness, y'all bunch of cucks!

RYAN: Jesus Christ...

GILMORE: GIIIIIIIILMEEEEENTUUUUUMM.

POLLSTER: Looks like no one's pulling more than 30%.

ALL: [unintelligible yelling]
 
Even if Donald suddenly endorsed Hillary, it's still not enough to assure of his loss.


It's like watching a caged tiger run for president. You know someone is voting for it, and you know they want that cage unlocked.
 
Sweet. Would love to see Trump trashed in the homebase of the KKK. That'd show both him and the KKK.
I'm amazed, but how? Did GA get less dumb and racist since 2012? We were for Romney then...
I would imagine that Trump's huge losses among minority voters and ESPECIALLY college-educated white women are the contributing factors to making GA a legit swing state.
 
Sweet. Would love to see Trump trashed in the homebase of the KKK. That'd show both him and the KKK.

I'm amazed, but how? Did GA get less dumb and racist since 2012? We were for Romney then...

Growing minority population + influx of white liberals + college educated whites who dislike Trump
 
Here's Sam Wang's (known for being a bit more reserved in his model) forecast. States change size based on EV count.

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That traditional swing state of Georgia tho...
 
Georgia is nearly 40% black and hispanic.
True. I always thought it was the old white Repubs + suburbia coming out to vote. (Haven't looked at actual turnout yet. Will look it up later) Well I guess from my perspective it seemed that way.
That was Romney, though. Think about how reasonable and good a choice he seems in comparison to Trump.
This is also true. Diet Racism vs Full On Nazi. Ha...
 
I've lived in Georgia for 33 years, and in 2015 I had to go for the first time to look for jobs.

I drove through places that sell peaches. I drove through places that sell onions. I drove to the east coast and I drove to the west coast. I drove briefly through Atlanta and amazingly enough, ended up back in Columbus.

My conclusion: The state I have lived in my whole life as a lot of damn farms and woods.

Donald Trump must have done something truly horrid to piss us off.
 
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