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[randomengine]

Considering how big the universe is, why would it bother you if some people half a universe away decided to play together? You would more than likely never see them.

That's fine, I mean if the developers actually spent time or cared about that kind of gameplay enough to add more support to it. That I do not want.

I was there for the dawn of the MMO games and I was always excited to begin one and then ultimately disappointed when all the new content was dungeons/raids/pvp and other multiplayer focused shit. Yes I know MMO, but still I wanted to do everything on my own and be able to ignore the rest of the players if I want to. I want to be able to do EVERYTHING in a game without needing anyone else. I have not really had anything like that. Combine that with the fact this is an exploration game using procedural generation and has all of these game systems which I love how it is designed. Gamers are bitching that this isn't the game they want, specifically multiplayer gamers. Fine, go play something else.

 

[eot]

That's the genius of their marketing. They sold the game on scale alone. All you have to do is tell people they can climb that mountain and the hype kicks off.

I never understood why people thought 10^20 star systems was ever an interesting pitch. Procedural generation has never, thus far anyway, been a solution to the problem of a game not having enough interesting content. It is great for games that have very strong core systems that behave very differently under only slightly different circumstances.

 

[Metal B]

That is a shitty point. Companies market Shit games as if they are good all the time. But marketing your game as great is different then liying about what you can so in your game.

So lying to your consumers is okay as long as the product is (in your own view) great?! THAT is a shitty point.

 

[Raven77]

That's my whole point. When people said in posts that there was nothing to do in NMS, there would always be condescending replies listing things like combat. While combat is technically something you can do in the game, it's so shallow that it disingenuous to really list it as a feature.

It's like this quote from Polygon after they do an interview with Sean Murray...

So basically whether or not something can be listed as a feature depends on how deep it is? What if a games writing / story is shallow? Should it be listed as an experience and not a "game" since it would be inappropriate to list that is has any sort of story line?

 

[KORNdoggy]

Its really weird, but since the hands on impressions have surfaced, its the negative ones like polygons, that have actually pushed me from "meh" to "bought"

I thought it looked like there wasn't really anything behind the eyes so to speak. No soul, just a pretty face. But i like what i'm hearing about resource gathering and survival. I never got the impression survival was a main factor of no mans sky up until a day ago. But knowing it is, i'm sold and i can't wait to start playing.

 

[prwxv3]

So lying to your consumers is okay as long as the product is (in your own view) great?! THAT is a shitty point.

Where did I say lying to your customers is ok. All I said that marking your that your game is great (when it's not) is not the same as lying about what your game is (unless you make up shit about your game to make it look better of course)

 

[randomengine]

So lying to your consumers is okay as long as the product is (in your own view) great?! THAT is a shitty point.

Nobody fucking lied dude.

 

[FStop7]

That definitely doesn't sound like an enjoyable thing to do.

The grinding is ridiculously OTT, it's worse than F2P games. And it's for no reason.

If they dialed the resource grind back by about 30 to 40 percent it would drastically improve the game.

 

[OneUh8]

my goodness people certainly have an agenda towards this game lol. I have been following this game very closely since it's reveal. I am not sure HG has lied about anything. They have actually made a point this whole time not talking about things that they know will be in the game but were not ready. They never wanted to oversell the game and they have not. Every single video out they have shown is the actual game you play.

 

[flkraven]

Clearly there was some kind of miscommunication if so many people feel that the final product isn't what they expected it to be. No amount of finger pointing will change that. If it was clear as day, then why is every thread filled with confused people? Why were there so many threads leading up to launch asking what the hell is in this game?

Something clearly wasn't communicated properly.

my goodness people certainly have an agenda towards this game lol. I have been following this game very closely since it's reveal. I am not sure HG has lied about anything. They have actually made a point this whole time not talking about things that they know will be in the game but were not ready. They never wanted to oversell the game and they have not. Every single video out they have shown is the actual game you play.

This actually works against their intentions. Underselling, and saying you are underselling, creates the expectation that there is a ton more behind the curtain. It appears there isn't.

 

[randomengine]

Clearly there was some kind of miscommunication if so many people feel that the final product isn't what they expected it to be. No amount of finger pointing will change that. If it was clear as day, then why is every thread filled with confused people? Why were there so many threads leading up to launch asking what the hell is in this game?

Something clearly wasn't communicated properly.



This actually works against their intentions. Underselling, and saying you are underselling, creates the expectation that there is a ton more behind the curtain. It appears there isn't.

No, there isn't. The gameplay we saw leading to launch is exactly the same as we see today. Moreover, if they say there is more, it's the fault of your assumption (not theirs) to fill that hole with your dreams.

 

[OneUh8]

Clearly there was some kind of miscommunication if so many people feel that the final product isn't what they expected it to be. No amount of finger pointing will change that. If it was clear as day, then why is every thread filled with confused people? Why were there so many threads leading up to launch asking what the hell is in this game?

Something clearly wasn't communicated properly.



This actually works against their intentions. Underselling, and saying you are underselling, creates the expectation that there is a ton more behind the curtain. It appears there isn't.

What did they undersell? They didn't and were not trying to. Everything frankly has been blunt about what it is. There is years of videos to show just that. Not sure how you got what I said had anything to do with underselling the game. The point is they didn't want to talk about anything that is NOT in the game or make it seem like it is something it is not. That is exactly what they did. No idea why I am wasting anytime trying to talk about this anymore. Lost causes.

 

[Brannon]

I'll say that this game is exactly what I expected it to be, a procedurally generated space jaunt that gets out of my way until I'm ready to continue forward. No complaints here.

 

[Metal B]

Where did I say lying to your customers is ok. All I said that marking your that your game is great (when it's not) is not the same as lying about what your game is (unless you make up shit about your game to make it look better of course)

Well, you are not very clear with your statement, because both is bad in a similar way.
What is the difference between marketing your shitty game as great, which has to involve examples (or do you simply mean bold words like "fantastic"), and lying about exciting features, which you mainly making up, so that people think your game is greater then it is? In both cases you're lying.

 

[Bloodporne]

Clearly there was some kind of miscommunication if so many people feel that the final product isn't what they expected it to be. No amount of finger pointing will change that. If it was clear as day, then why is every thread with confused people? Why were there so many threads leading up to launch asking what the hell is in this game?

Something clearly wasn't communicated properly.

I'd have to agree on that. I have yet to see a game in recent memory that had this level of confusion attached to it, warranted or not.

Based on this thread I'm certainly a despicable fool because yes, not having followed it closely also led me to believe there's be 'more' to it, whatever that may be. I'm really surprised at how shallow and uninteresting it actually looks despite being enormously vast. Yes, I'm one of those people. I'd still like to be convinced that it isn't somehow because I really like the idea, so I kind of stick around out of morbid curiousity I guess?

 

[Jarate]

It's going to be a great day when people stop overhyping themselves over everything and anything that resembles something innovative.

 

[MagnesD3]

Clearly there was some kind of miscommunication if so many people feel that the final product isn't what they expected it to be. No amount of finger pointing will change that. If it was clear as day, then why is every thread filled with confused people? Why were there so many threads leading up to launch asking what the hell is in this game?

Something clearly wasn't communicated properly.



This actually works against their intentions. Underselling, and saying you are underselling, creates the expectation that there is a ton more behind the curtain. It appears there isn't.

The truth is people are ignorant it's not the marketings fault at all, it's people looking at it and going man I bet this and this can be done but they later forget that it was thier idea and not what was said to them and later accept it as a fact that it's going to be apart of the game. Ultimately later blaming the marketers when in fact it was completely the consumers fault.

 

[Septic360]

It's going to be a great day when people stop overhyping themselves over everything and anything that resembles something innovative.

Yup.

Also, your avatar is fucked up lmao

 

[Pestilence11]

Niche game is polarizing, shocker! It really boils down that simply.

 

[MegaSackman]

Well, you are not very clear with your statement, because both is bad in a similar way.
What is the difference between marketing your shitty game as great, which has to involve examples (or do you simply mean bold words like "fantastic"), and lying about exciting features, which you mainly making up, so that people think your game is greater then it is? In both cases you're lying.

Are you saying that everyone at Hello Games or Sean Murray are liars?

 

[Griss]

I am no closer to figuring out whether I'll like this game or not. And since the thrill of the game is discovery I only allow myself glimpses of footage, so I get no closer to figuring it out...

Basically,
I hate procedurally generated content, but...
...I love survival games, sci-fi, and exploration-driven games. Lack of interesting combat doesn't bother me by comparison.

The tie-breaker is that this is a super-original game from a small studio that took a massive risk. I think that alone is reason enough for me to support them and check it out.

 

[flkraven]

The truth is people are ignorant it's not the marketings fault at all, it's people looking at it and going man I bet this and this can be done but they later forget that it was thier idea and not what was said to them and later accept it as a fact that it's going to be apart of the game. Ultimately later blaming the marketers when in fact it was completely the consumers fault.

I'm on GAF every day and I still felt like I didn't have a great grasp on what this game is ultimately. When the devs talked about the possibilities in NMS, they always seemed somewhat guarded. Speaking as if they didn't want to give to much away. That there was a bunch of mystery. I set some expectations based on the way they discussed the game, and based on what I've seen so far those expectations were not met.

If this happened just because I'm 'an ignorant person', why doesn't this happen with other games I've anticipated? The only other time I've felt that the final product hasn't delivered on my expectations was Destiny.

 

[depths20XX]

There's people streaming right now on the same planet at the same station and it looks like you can't see each other.

 

[Facism]

Then wait for your penny sales.

nah, £30 is what i expect for a PC game. When it hits that, then we in.

 

[TyrantII]

Well, played 90 min so far at lunch and I'm loving it so far. I spawned on a planet that habitable at night, but by mid noon it was 175C. I waited untill evening to start exploring more.

Mid day approached again, but I found a cave to set up camp and explore. Once night came around I proceeded mine a spiral staircase in the towering pillar of element I needed to get my ship going. I think I spotted an out post on the horizon. Maybe the ships I saw were heading there?

Stopped there, as I needed to get back to work. I'm going to explore my Planet a bit more, and stock up on fuel before heading to space later tonight.

Game is everything I wanted so far. I won't be for everyone, but the shit posting from people watching others play is getting old. Move on if it isn't for you, since you refuse to even give it a chance.

 

[ChanMan]

Its really weird, but since the hands on impressions have surfaced, its the negative ones like polygons, that have actually pushed me from "meh" to "bought"

I thought it looked like there wasn't really anything behind the eyes so to speak. No soul, just a pretty face. But i like what i'm hearing about resource gathering and survival. I never got the impression survival was a main factor of no mans sky up until a day ago. But knowing it is, i'm sold and i can't wait to start playing.

Haha I am in the same boat as you. I am very curious about the Survival aspect. Still going to wait till the end of week to decide if I am going to buy this.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

This game is like they made the perfect game for me...

I find it incredibly relaxing.

 

[MagnesD3]

I'm on GAF every day and I still felt like I didn't have a great grasp on what this game is ultimately. When the devs talked about the possibilities in NMS, they always seemed somewhat guarded. Speaking as if they didn't want to give to much away. That there was a bunch of mystery. I set some expectations based on the way they discussed the game, and based on what I've seen so far those expectations were not met.

If this happened just because I'm 'an ignorant person', why doesn't this happen with other games I've anticipated? The only other time I've felt that the final product hasn't delivered on my expectations was Destiny.

They've always said tamper expectation, its a space exploration game with survival elements and more surprises in the game we don't want to spoil. Your fault for assuming they were big when they start out by saying tamper your expectations.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

There's people streaming right now on the same planet at the same station and it looks like you can't see each other.

Wat? Can you link me to the place it's being talked about in the thread? Cus something definitely isn't right if people are finding their mates this quickly if what they said about the game being so huge and the chances so small is true...

 

[DeepEnigma]

Wat? Can you link me to the place it's being talked about in the thread? Cus something definitely isn't right if people are finding their mates this quickly if what they said about the game being so huge and the chances so small is true...

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4wxydf/im_about_to_meet_another_player_seriously/

 

[flkraven]

There's people streaming right now on the same planet at the same station and it looks like you can't see each other.

Details?

This is exactly what I thought. Whenever they were asked about multiplayer, the just kept spouting 'the chances of that are....'. Even that polygon article says the game is supposed to be like journey.

 

[NotSelf]

The game makes you feel so small i've only been on two planets so far and I find it overwhelming.

I do think this type of gaming experience is for the more laid back gaming crowd.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4wxydf/im_about_to_meet_another_player_seriously/

Thank you!... Oh, it's reddit... I will take everything with a fair amount of skepticism.

 

[ironcreed]

So lying to your consumers is okay as long as the product is (in your own view) great?! THAT is a shitty point.

That's funny. I am playing the same damn game that they have been showing the entire time. If anyone goes in and feels misled, it's because they had a completely wrong impression of the game to begin with and/or unrealistic expectations. Everything they have shown is what the game actually is. Either that works for you or not.

 

[TyrantII]

Haha I am in the same boat as you. I am very curious about the Survival aspect. Still going to wait till the end of week to decide if I am going to buy this.

It's absolutely one of the game play loops. Its not bad on my semi-hostile planet, but starting on a death planet might put some off because resources will be used super fast.

It's apparent that as you gain experience and technology the habitable worlds will require less and less micromanaging. But the you open up the Hellscapes to explore, since you can weather them.

What loot and more is there to find there? What mysteries will there be to unlock.

 

[DeepEnigma]

That's funny. I am playing the same damn game that they have been showing the entire time. If anyone goes in and feels misled, it's because they had a completely wrong impression of the game to begin with and/or unrealistic expectations. Everything they have shown is what the game actually is. Either that works for you or not.

Exactly.

 

[flkraven]

That's funny. I am playing the same damn game that they have been showing the entire time. If anyone goes in and feels misled, it's because they had a completely wrong impression of the game to begin with and/or unrealistic expectations. Everything they have shown is what the game actually is. Either that works for you or not.

Look right above. The multiplayer element of No Man's Sky was clearly a lie if people in the exact same location can't see each other.

 

[highrider]

Game has always looked interesting to me, but the emphasis on resource gathering and inventory is a bit of a dagger. I have the attention span of a gnat. I'll be looking at impressions though, the premise is still pretty compelling.

 

[Zombie James]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4wxydf/im_about_to_meet_another_player_seriously/

Now this is a major disappointment. I remember very specifically Sean saying that the only way you'll know what you look like is to meet another player.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

The game makes you feel so small i've only been on two planets so far and I find it overwhelming.

I do think this type of gaming experience is for the more laid back gaming crowd.

I've just spent 20 minutes, in real time, trying to get to a specific marker on a planet. I entered atmosphere further than I thought and the planet is VAST. Overwhelming indeed. You are so insigificant in the game world. I love it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Look right above. The multiplayer element of No Man's Sky was clearly a lie if people in the exact same location can't see each other.

Or, gasp, a bug?

Since the ship supposedly did show up.

And they also stressed this is not a 'multiplayer game', so...

 

[depths20XX]

Details?

This is exactly what I thought. Whenever they were asked about multiplayer, the just kept spouting 'the chances of that are....'. Even that polygon article says the game is supposed to be like journey.

Look up psytokat on twitch.

 

[backflip10019]

I do think this type of gaming experience is for the more laid back gaming crowd.

From what I've seen, it kind of seems similar to Star Wars Battlefront in that regard. Seems like some people were expecting Battlefield 4 and were disappointed when they got Battlefront (from a game mechanics perspective).

 

[flkraven]

Now this is a major disappointment. I remember very specifically Sean saying that the only way you'll know what you look like is to meet another player.

Yah, the polygon article that was quoted earlier:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/16/8790505/no-mans-sky-preview-e3

"I ask Murray how other players figure in this game. He says it's not an MMO. You might see other players on the surface of planets, and you may be able to interact with them on a basic level, but there will be no combat or trading. "It's a bit like Journey," he explains."

So is that the first link to a lie/misrepresentation that everyone was looking for?

 

[ironcreed]

Look right above. The multiplayer element of No Man's Sky was clearly a lie if people in the exact same location can't see each other.

They also said that you would never really run into anyone and it is intended as more of a single player game with sharing features, such as sharing discovered worlds. This was never meant to be a multiplayer game and I never expected it to be one. As they never showed players meeting up.

 

[depths20XX]

Thank you!... Oh, it's reddit... I will take everything with a fair amount of skepticism.

Well you can watch the streams and see for yourself...

 

[SecondVariety]

Just in case anyone is curious about the Limited Edition content, I've got some impressions here:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...ans-sky-limited-edition-ps4-impressions/33994

 

[GHG]

This game is like they made the perfect game for me...

I find it incredibly relaxing.

Yep. I'm absolutely loving it so far. It's everything I ever wanted.

The freedom combined with the sense of scale in the game is incredible. Being on a planet, going over a crest and seeing another planet in the sky and then actually going to that planet to see what's there and what the atmosphere is like.

I'm going to be playing this for a long time. Even if it's just on rotation with other games. We don't need this game to be more like other games. There are plenty of games that offer the blockbuster experience, the multiplayer, the stories but there is not much else like this out there. It's a welcomed change of pace.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yah, the polygon article that was quoted earlier:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/16/8790505/no-mans-sky-preview-e3

"I ask Murray how other players figure in this game. He says it's not an MMO. You might see other players on the surface of planets, and you may be able to interact with them on a basic level, but there will be no combat or trading. "It's a bit like Journey," he explains."

So is that the first link to a lie/misrepresentation that everyone was looking for?

Why do you keep pushing the 'lie' narrative, without knowing the facts?

They were able to see one another's ship... however, supposedly not each other... so it looks more like a bug in that instance.

So quick to point the finger, LIARRRRRRS!!!!!!!

This game is like they made the perfect game for me...

I find it incredibly relaxing.

Yep. I'm absolutely loving it so far. It's everything I ever wanted.

The freedom combined with the sense of scale in the game is incredible. Being on a planet, going over a crest and seeing another planet it the sky and then actually going to that planet to see what's there and what the atmosphere is like.

I'm going to be playing this for a long time. Even if it's just on rotation with other games. We don't need this game to be more like other games. There are plenty of games that offer the blockbuster experience, the multiplayer, the stories but there is not much else like this out there. It's a welcomed change of pace.

Precisely how I feel as well.

 

[Lan Dong Mik]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4wxydf/im_about_to_meet_another_player_seriously/

Man, that is fucking disappointing, but honestly I guess I'm not surprised. It's not a MP game, so seeing other players in the game always seemed like a longshot anyways. maybe it'll be added later.